kmb42vt wrote:@igor83 - Heh, I like that. "Year of decisions". Very accurate I think. There's choices for Mint though and Xorg hasn't been deprecated yet so there's still time to make these decisions. A lot depends on what Intel, AMD and Nvidia chooses to support as far as display servers go as well. Right now none of three has yet thrown support behind Wayland or Mir as far as the latest info is concerned. And Canonical had to pull their plans for XMir in 13.10 due to Intel pulling their support for it. Xorg may be a bit more than a few decades old but all in all, it still being developed, it still works and is well supported.
Until there's concrete evidence about full free and non-free graphics driver support for either Mir or Wayland, I won't believe what Canonical or the Wayland developers state about it.
Oh dear, I believe we hijacked this thread. Sorry about that.
Intel ruled out support for Mir apparently but have not condemned Wayland to my knowledge. My own feeling is that Wayland is the way to go. Ubuntu going with MIR I think has everything to do with the profit motive, like a lot of their other recent decisions. Canonical gets a strategic advantage if they can persuade developers to develop only for MIR or to devote most of their resources to MIR and not develop or to minimize development for Wayland. This makes Ubuntu more competitive against other Linux distros and gives Canonical a lot of influence ultimately over which direction Linux development goes. Basically Canonical will be calling the shots in the Linux world from then on out if they can get enough of the market using MIR. It's a bold gambit, and one that may crash and burn like the satellite MIR, but it's hard to rule out Ubuntu given so many people use it. If MIR seems destined to harm rather than help Ubuntu, then the Minters might opt to go with say Linux Mint Debian, and that might just be all right given that Mint has its own update program that seems to work at least as good as *buntu's. I think Mint has already reaped a lot of benefits from *buntu, and that it might be entering a period of reduced returns in which *buntu won't be bringing as much to the table with each new update as it used to in the past.
I don't see how Canonical's motives and my motives coincide. My motive is to have a desktop that works great and is low cost. I'm not concerned about the latest and greatest games and don't use mobile gadgets and don't care about Canonical's financial bottom line or whether Shuttleworth can buy a new trip into outer space or whatever, so if MIR is intended for any of that, it doesn't matter to me in the slightest. I think the goal of Wayland is to develop a sensible, efficient, modern and well-designed display server, and if that is the really the case then Wayland seems preferable over the Canonical profit enhancement vehicle called MIR.