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Re: KDE 4.4 on the way

Postby exploder on Sat Feb 13, 2010 10:29 pm

You are probably right Steely. Everything else seems to work and this is not really hurting anything for the moment. I will just wait and see what develops.
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Re: KDE 4.4 on the way

Postby kmb42vt on Sat Feb 13, 2010 10:40 pm

I've been keeping the Kubuntu backports repo checked myself since I upgraded and the updates have been coming in on a daily basis. Since I rather like 4.4 (seems quite a bit snappier than 4.3.5 as well as having the extra features/functions) and I'm the sole user I'll keep applying the updates and see what happens. Rather fun actually.
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Re: KDE 4.4 on the way

Postby exploder on Sat Feb 13, 2010 10:45 pm

I'll keep applying the updates and see what happens. Rather fun actually.


I was thinking the same thing! :D I asked about this on the Kubuntu forum too, maybe someone knows what is going on with this.

Edit: kmb42vt, I saw your post on the KDE forum when I did a search about this issue. :D
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Re: KDE 4.4 on the way

Postby piratesmack on Sat Feb 13, 2010 11:19 pm

Does kuser work? (/usr/bin/kuser)
Comes with the kdeadmin package, I think
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Re: KDE 4.4 on the way

Postby kmb42vt on Sat Feb 13, 2010 11:23 pm

piratesmack wrote:Does kuser work? (/usr/bin/kuser)
Comes with the kdeadmin package, I think


Hmmm, just checked after seeing your post. No "kuser" in my "user/bin" directory. Neither is kuser or the kdeadmin package installed according to Synaptic. Is this normally installed in the KDE version of Linux Mint?

Edit: Okay, I've just installed kuser and it seems to be working fine.
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Re: KDE 4.4 on the way

Postby exploder on Sat Feb 13, 2010 11:33 pm

Installing kuser causes that darn sudo error every time the system starts, I tried that. Here is a bug report.

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=226754
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Re: KDE 4.4 on the way

Postby piratesmack on Sat Feb 13, 2010 11:37 pm

kmb42vt wrote:
piratesmack wrote:Does kuser work? (/usr/bin/kuser)
Comes with the kdeadmin package, I think


Hmmm, just checked after seeing your post. No "kuser" in my "user/bin" directory. Neither is kuser or the kdeadmin package installed according to Synaptic. Is this normally installed in the KDE version of Linux Mint?


I'm not sure if it's normally installed on Mint KDE.

I'm actually running KDE 4.4 on Slackware. I have no "User Management" module in System Settings, but I do have kuser in /usr/bin.

I'm not sure if installing kuser will fix the problem, but at least you'll have something to add or remove users.

EDIT: Just saw exploder's post, don't install kuser :)

EDIT2:

kmb42vt wrote:Edit: Okay, I've just installed kuser and it seems to be working fine.


oh
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Re: KDE 4.4 on the way

Postby bobcollard on Sat Feb 13, 2010 11:40 pm

kmb42vt wrote:
piratesmack wrote:Does kuser work? (/usr/bin/kuser)
Comes with the kdeadmin package, I think


Hmmm, just checked after seeing your post. No "kuser" in my "user/bin" directory. Neither is kuser or the kdeadmin package installed according to Synaptic. Is this normally installed in the KDE version of Linux Mint?

Edit: Okay, I've just installed kuser and it seems to be working fine.

I tried it and it didn't help me.
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Re: KDE 4.4 on the way

Postby exploder on Sat Feb 13, 2010 11:44 pm

I installed kdeadmin, it pulls in kuser and kcron, this gets rid of the kdesudo error at start up and User Manager now works from the menu. User Manager still does not work from System Settings but the problem is half solved. :D
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Re: KDE 4.4 on the way

Postby kmb42vt on Sat Feb 13, 2010 11:46 pm

I'm not sure if it's normally installed on Mint KDE.

I'm actually running KDE 4.4 on Slackware. I have no "User Management" module in System Settings, but I do have kuser in /usr/bin.

I'm not sure if installing kuser will fix the problem, but at least you'll have something to add or remove users.

EDIT: Just saw exploder's post, don't install kuser :)

EDIT2:

kmb42vt wrote:Edit: Okay, I've just installed kuser and it seems to be working fine.


oh


No big deal, it's easily removed and it is. :D Good way to check functions though.
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Re: KDE 4.4 on the way

Postby exploder on Sat Feb 13, 2010 11:53 pm

I think we are still missing a dependency and that is why it is not working in System Settings, it's working fine now from the menu shortcut.
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Re: KDE 4.4 on the way

Postby speedyx on Sun Feb 14, 2010 12:02 am

I upgraded to 4.4 yesterday. No major problem at all! Great job!
User Management in System Settings is a first problem I found.
The second is a akonadi nepomuk message when I launch kmail. Do you know something about this?
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Re: KDE 4.4 on the way

Postby exploder on Sun Feb 14, 2010 12:14 am

The second is a akonadi nepomuk message when I launch kmail. Do you know something about this?


No, at the moment I am using Thunderbird but I read that it was fixed with an update.

I did look to see that the kcmodule was installed for User Management and it is there. I tried re-installing the package but User Management still crashes from System Settings. The error mentions the kcmodule and something python related. Something is missing...

Edit: I added to the bug report on this, we are close to having this figured out. :)
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Re: KDE 4.4 on the way

Postby speedyx on Sun Feb 14, 2010 3:27 am

Thank you exploder for your work and support! :D
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Re: KDE 4.4 on the way

Postby exploder on Sun Feb 14, 2010 9:34 am

Well, KDE closed out the bug report because it is definitely a Ubuntu issue. That's ok though, I will just see if there is a report on Launchpad for this. :)

Edit: So far manually creating a bug report in Launchpad takes me through a continuous loop to the how to report a bug page....Don't you just love Launchpad..... :(
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Re: KDE 4.4 on the way

Postby exploder on Sun Feb 14, 2010 11:35 am

Just read a bug report from a link in the KDE forum. The python-qt4 - 4.7.0-2ubuntu3 package is supposed to be the solution to the issue. We will just have to wait for this package to appear in the repos.

Here is the bug report.

https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/ ... bug/514796

Edit: Just checked the build farm, the packages are building for Lucid. I am guessing this will be ported to Karmic as well because it has been receiving the same updates.

Edit 2: I added information to the bug report about what was done to partially fix the problem. This might help people to some extent.
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Re: KDE 4.4 on the way

Postby exploder on Sun Feb 14, 2010 12:21 pm

Here is the activity log on this issue.

https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/ ... /+activity

Now it's just wait for the updated package and see what happens. :)
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Re: KDE 4.4 on the way

Postby kmb42vt on Sun Feb 14, 2010 1:02 pm

exploder wrote:I think we are still missing a dependency and that is why it is not working in System Settings, it's working fine now from the menu shortcut.


Hmmm, not for me although I had a dozen or so updates vie the Kubuntu backports repo. Thanks for all the info and your efforts, exploder. I've been working the forums as well and there's a lot of "tag teaming" this problem going on. This is what I love about this community--they get things done. :D
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Re: KDE 4.4 on the way

Postby exploder on Sun Feb 14, 2010 1:11 pm

Hmmm, not for me although I had a dozen or so updates vie the Kubuntu backports repo. Thanks for all the info and your efforts, exploder. I've been working the forums as well and there's a lot of "tag teaming" this problem going on. This is what I love about this community--they get things done. :D


I saw your posts on the KDE forum and I sure appreciate your efforts. If enough people got involved we might not have as many bugs to deal with. :) I got some updates this morning. I am waiting for the python-qt4 - 4.7.0-2ubuntu3 package to be available so I can see if it finishes up the User Management issue.
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Re: KDE 4.4 on the way

Postby kmb42vt on Sun Feb 14, 2010 1:34 pm

For what it's worth, I've got User Management working again thanks to exploder and a KDE forum member, apachelogger, ferreting out the associated bug report on this problem.

It involves changing a single line of code in one file. Here's the exceprt from the bug report:

python-qt4 in /usr/share/pyshared/PyQt4/uic/uiparser.py at line 184 invokes the string method of a Qstring.

But lately, Qstring does not have anymore such method, meaning that python-qt4 in /usr/share/pyshared/PyQt4/uic/uiparser.py breaks on QT 4.6 and on installations of kde 4.4 on ubuntu. For instance, with a kubuntu karmic distro upgraded to kde 4.4 using the instructions on the kubuntu website fails to have a working user-management module in the system settings.

Please have line 184 of python-qt4 in /usr/share/pyshared/PyQt4/uic/uiparser.py

from

bg_name = bg_i18n.string

to

bg_name = str(bg_i18n)


Changing the above line as shown above brings User Management back to working order.

Note: In the original bug report there was a quotation mark at the end of the corrected line of code which I ignored since it made no sense [ bg_name = str(bg_i18n)" ]. I'm no expert on this stuff that's for sure but I do know that quotation marks always come in pairs. Like trying to add a line of php code with just the ?> at the end.

Either way, the fix appears to work. Can someone try this themselves then beat the crap out of it to make sure there's no glitches? Heck, we might just get a jump on everyone else. 8)
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