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[SOLVED] "maximise" KDE 4 Desktop folder

Postby Tex-Twil on Sat Mar 26, 2011 4:43 am

Hi,
I just switched from Mint 6 to Mint 10 and I'm getting used to KDE 4. What irritates me a lot is that I cannot find how to have the "Desktop" folder on the entire Desktop. I just want to have the desktop as on any other operating system.

Thanks for your help,
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Re: "maximise" KDE 4 Desktop folder

Postby Beerislife on Sat Mar 26, 2011 5:38 am

Right click on the Desktop and select "Activities" then "Unlock Widgets" if they're locked. Next click on "Create Activity" and "Templates > Folder View" Select the new Folder View Activity and you will have a "regular" looking desktop.
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Re: "maximise" KDE 4 Desktop folder

Postby rec9140 on Sat Mar 26, 2011 6:01 pm

Tex-Twil wrote:Hi,
I just switched from Mint 6 to Mint 10 and I'm getting used to KDE 4. What irritates me a lot is that I cannot find how to have the "Desktop" folder on the entire Desktop. I just want to have the desktop as on any other operating system.


To return to NORMAL mode, you need to:

Right click on your desktop, desktop settings, and then change it to FOLDER VIEW this is the NORMAL desktop.

Thats step #1 in any KDE install, kill off that stupid plasmaview mode.
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Re: "maximise" KDE 4 Desktop folder

Postby tomp01 on Sun Mar 27, 2011 9:19 am

rec9140 wrote:
Tex-Twil wrote:Hi,
I just switched from Mint 6 to Mint 10 and I'm getting used to KDE 4. What irritates me a lot is that I cannot find how to have the "Desktop" folder on the entire Desktop. I just want to have the desktop as on any other operating system.


Thats step #1 in any KDE install, kill off that stupid plasmaview mode.


Amen to that, I can't understand why they persist in having this as the default.
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Re: "maximise" KDE 4 Desktop folder

Postby rec9140 on Sun Mar 27, 2011 10:45 am

tomp01 wrote:Amen to that, I can't understand why they persist in having this as the default.


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Re: "maximise" KDE 4 Desktop folder

Postby Tex-Twil on Mon Mar 28, 2011 3:09 am

rec9140 wrote:
Tex-Twil wrote:Hi,
I just switched from Mint 6 to Mint 10 and I'm getting used to KDE 4. What irritates me a lot is that I cannot find how to have the "Desktop" folder on the entire Desktop. I just want to have the desktop as on any other operating system.


To return to NORMAL mode, you need to:

Right click on your desktop, desktop settings, and then change it to FOLDER VIEW this is the NORMAL desktop.

Thats step #1 in any KDE install, kill off that stupid plasmaview mode.

Thanks !

yet another question. Now I see all my files on the desktop but I cannot move them by click & dragging them ..
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Re: "maximise" KDE 4 Desktop folder

Postby Beerislife on Mon Mar 28, 2011 3:57 am

Right-click on the desktop and go to "Folder View Settings" then "Display" and make sure "Lock in place" is unchecked
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Re: "maximise" KDE 4 Desktop folder

Postby randomizer on Mon Mar 28, 2011 4:10 am

tomp01 wrote:Amen to that, I can't understand why they persist in having this as the default.

Because KDE is not a conventional DE. If you want conventional, GNOME is for you. :wink:
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Re: "maximise" KDE 4 Desktop folder

Postby rec9140 on Mon Mar 28, 2011 5:13 am

randomizer wrote:
tomp01 wrote:Amen to that, I can't understand why they persist in having this as the default.

Because KDE is not a conventional DE. If you want conventional, GNOME is for you. :wink:


Not even close! KDE4.x just needs to have its useless ooh ahh features disabled. Like I said I spend more time disabling things, than enabling things.

KDE is *THE* DE....

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They are about to commit suicide much like KDE did with 4.x, but theirs will be complete and final, finally. With NO recovery of the patient. He's dead Jim!
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Re: "maximise" KDE 4 Desktop folder

Postby AlbertP on Mon Mar 28, 2011 5:36 am

Just kill the plasma-desktop process, that's also a way to get rid of it. It may restart but then kill it again and Plasma Desktop is away.
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Re: "maximise" KDE 4 Desktop folder

Postby Tex-Twil on Mon Mar 28, 2011 6:29 am

Beerislife wrote:Right-click on the desktop and go to "Folder View Settings" then "Display" and make sure "Lock in place" is unchecked


Right click on the Desktop > Icons > Lock In Place is unchecked.

When I start dragging a file, it actually starts a "selection zone".
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Re: "maximise" KDE 4 Desktop folder

Postby fraxinus_63 on Mon Mar 28, 2011 6:30 am

AlbertP wrote:Just kill the plasma-desktop process, that's also a way to get rid of it. It may restart but then kill it again and Plasma Desktop is away.


What an interesting suggestion! I shall try it when I next have a go with KDE 4. I am a long-standing KDE patriot who really wants to like KDE 4 but still finds it fiddly and unituitive whenever I give it a try. Any suggestions on how to simplify it are always welcome.
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Re: "maximise" KDE 4 Desktop folder

Postby Tex-Twil on Tue Mar 29, 2011 3:29 am

I'm still unable to move the files :(
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Re: "maximise" KDE 4 Desktop folder

Postby rec9140 on Tue Mar 29, 2011 9:44 am

Tex-Twil wrote:I'm still unable to move the files :(


Please post a screen shot of the desktop and the "files" your trying to move...I am not following you as I don't use the desktop as a folder where downloads etc. go which I am guessing you have real files that have been put there by some program during a download ? ?

I only have icons on the desktop which link to places like NAS's, remote logins, quick launches for programs etc...
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Re: "maximise" KDE 4 Desktop folder

Postby Tex-Twil on Tue Mar 29, 2011 10:24 am

rec9140 wrote:
Tex-Twil wrote:I'm still unable to move the files :(


Please post a screen shot of the desktop and the "files" your trying to move...I am not following you as I don't use the desktop as a folder where downloads etc. go which I am guessing you have real files that have been put there by some program during a download ? ?

I only have icons on the desktop which link to places like NAS's, remote logins, quick launches for programs etc...


As you can see on this picture, I tried dragging the "Hello.txt" but instead of being moved, a "selection rectangle" is triggered.


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Re: "maximise" KDE 4 Desktop folder

Postby rec9140 on Tue Mar 29, 2011 10:55 am

Tex-Twil wrote:As you can see on this picture, I tried dragging the "Hello.txt" but instead of being moved, a "selection rectangle" is triggered.


When you select it to specify a location that it displays VERSUS the default at the top... I think you will need to select your file(s) then drag/drop them some place.

I don't use that mode where you specify a location I just use the first "Display Desktop folder" and I don't put files on my desktop like that as thats just not the way your supposed to do it. :D :mrgreen:

Theres obviously some difference in the way that it works between the two.....Seems like what your specifying is what the first option does already? They point to the same place, just one is click and the other you give it the same path as the click generates.....

Hmmm.. after a quickie check... yep... displays the same thing when you give the path... and mine allows me to drag and drop a file... I think the issue us your mouse setup in System settings.

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Re: "maximise" KDE 4 Desktop folder

Postby Tex-Twil on Tue Mar 29, 2011 12:03 pm

rec9140 wrote:Theres obviously some difference in the way that it works between the two.....Seems like what your specifying is what the first option does already?


It also doesn't work when I choose the 1st option. I have different mouse settings but I don't want files to open on a signle click but on a double click.
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Re: "maximise" KDE 4 Desktop folder

Postby rec9140 on Tue Mar 29, 2011 2:28 pm

Tex-Twil wrote:It also doesn't work when I choose the 1st option. I have different mouse settings but I don't want files to open on a signle click but on a double click.


Unfortunately I can not get what you have occurring to occur on my test system. I've switched the mouse to non *nix mode, switched the setting for the location between all three, and it allows me to click and drag them where I want....

I can not duplicate this ... :(

Maybe some one else knows of something that causes this.....
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Re: "maximise" KDE 4 Desktop folder

Postby Tex-Twil on Tue Mar 29, 2011 4:13 pm

So I booted from the Live DVD, created a test.txt on the Desktop and I can't move it with the mouse neither :( For both Desktop settings > Layout "Desktop" or "Folder View" ...

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EDIT: If I change the mouse setting to "single click opens" then I can drag the files ! But I do want to double click to open files :(


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Re: "maximise" KDE 4 Desktop folder

Postby rec9140 on Tue Mar 29, 2011 5:16 pm

Tex-Twil wrote:So I booted from the Live DVD, created a test.txt on the Desktop and I can't move it with the mouse neither :( For both Desktop settings > Layout "Desktop" or "Folder View" ...

If I change the mouse setting to "single click opens" then I can drag the files ! But I do want to double click to open files :(


I tried that on my test machine, rebooted, logout, nothing would recreate this situation.. I just can not get this to duplicate with any thing I try to tell you what to change.

When set to non *nix mode, you have to double click to do anything, in normal *nix mode, single click opens, starts etc... in either setting I can drag and move files or icons on the desktop to where they belong in either setting for the location option.

Post an ls -al of the live dvd for that...if you can....

The last and only thing I can see is that your perms in the first screen snap shows user users and mine shows rec9140 rec9140 and this is a perms

On the installed versions do a chown username:username on the hello.txt file and then try to move it...

Other than that which I doubt seriously will fix it.. I have not got a clue as like I said I just not duplicate it.. :(
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