Mint 11 KDE development

[manny]

In my own opinion, having KDE on a LMDE base, will, in esscence make KDE a more stable and will also make it a rolling release without the need for installing a new version everytime one comes out....I'm currently experimenting with my own version of a LMDE_KDE, and let me say, it's pretty cool.
It has the look & feel of KDE, with the benefits of a Debian base. Of course Boo & Clem are working on a more in depth senario......cheers


Andrew

Nice to hear Andrew you took the plunge and installed KDE on top of LMDE, I may do the same if there are delays or not news from Boo. I installed LMDE RC, I didn't find that many rough edges as I was expecting, the ones I had I solved promptly. My experience so far with LMDE is excellent, I love it. It is very stable, faster and no problems whatsoever with my wireless. I wished Boo could give us an update about KDE development, I'm sure once it is released will be a winner. I love LMDE really...What is your opinion about it so far?

I'm having a grand old time with it. By the way, you might want to take a look at this post of mine:

http://forum.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.ph ... 98#p462464

It wraps up the most common problems found in the new LMDE RC and the fixes that I've found so far. It's for the 64 bit version of LMDE so you might not have encountered all of the same problems but who knows? I just wrote it up just to help others out.

kmb42vt, I had 4 problems which 3 of them resolved satisfactorily.

1.- Fonts, I found the fonts, mainly in Fire Fox, very poor. I fixed the problem following the solution placed at this address http://omnsproject.org/?p=651 The fonts improved enormously in Fire Fox and is perfect in Chromium.

2.- Partitions, I saw my other partitions using the live DVD but not after the installation. I fixed it the same way you are suggesting.

3.- Installation of the nvidia drivers. It seems every one has its own way on how to install the drivers, the first time I tried following some one recommendation broke my OS. After re-installation I followed some one else and worked right away. Hopefully Jockey will be ported soon to LMDE.

4.- Flash sound problem. I only experienced the problem on sound streams only. Youtube is perfect but not on radio streams or Shoutcast. It is a known problem on 64 bit flasplayer. The installation of the fix didn't made any difference. I found some comments about doing a PRELOAD on a file in etc/ but that file is not existence on LMDE and the system didn't allowed me to create one. It is not important for now because probably will be a fix on the finale release and I'm using other players instead.

Overall experience has been very positive. Installation was easy, the machine is working fabulous and just I'm hopping for the release of LMDE KDE arrives soon.

[andrew5859]

My experience so far manny is a great one.....it's been very smooth...this the snapshot of my experimental LMDE_KDE version off of my laptop: viewtopic.php?f=141&t=54809....this is a usb sata drive 320GB. I'm currently gearing up a custom desktop build found here:
viewtopic.php?f=141&t=79217 for testing of the 64bit version of LMDE.

[manny]

Andre5859. Fantastic to hear. I solved my flasplayer problem. To create the document, obviously, one needs to be on root. Everything works very smooth. Those are litle problems I'm sure will be fixed on the final release and on LMDE_KDE. The experience so far is fantastic.

[tshann]

Hi,
I went through a great deal to try to get this puppy to work in Kubuntu 11.04. The final solution - for my rig (HP DV6233se) was to uninstall the bcmwl-kernel-source. I did confirm that the bcm43xx was blacklisted and removed the blacklist - didn't work. No fix on the broadcom sta driver ever worked. But after installing firmware-b43-installer (which automatically brought in cutter) I could get it to work, but I had to log into a terminal every time @ boot up and type in sudo modprobe b43. It was only after removing the above source file and rebooting that my rig came up with a working wireless for Kubuntu 11.04. Hope this is useful for someone else.

Peace

[foggytown]

So no word since the "mid-August" projection? No activity on the Community ISO page either...

[kmb42vt]

So no word since the "mid-August" projection? No activity on the Community ISO page either...

Everything is waiting on the final release of the LMDE respin as well as the finalization of the new LMDE update system. Testing of both is going on right now at a rapid pace, believe me. Unfortunately, it's not obviously visible except in certain LMDE testing threads at the moment. We're currently testing the new Update Pack 3 via the "incoming" LMDE testing repo as well as the new "incoming" "security" and "multimedia" repos. What this all means is when the LMDE final is released, all 3 repos involved with LMDE will be under Mint's control (debian.linuxmint.com). Once that's all in place and the final LMDE respin is released then the .iso(s) of LMDE-KDE can be built and tested. I'm sure that testing of the new LMDE-KDE is going on right now. There simply won't be an "official" test .iso until LMDE respin is final.

Hope that makes sense.

[manny]

So no word since the "mid-August" projection? No activity on the Community ISO page either...

Everything is waiting on the final release of the LMDE respin as well as the finalization of the new LMDE update system. Testing of both is going on right now at a rapid pace, believe me. Unfortunately, it's not obviously visible except in certain LMDE testing threads at the moment. We're currently testing the new Update Pack 3 via the "incoming" LMDE testing repo as well as the new "incoming" "security" and "multimedia" repos. What this all means is when the LMDE final is released, all 3 repos involved with LMDE will be under Mint's control (debian.linuxmint.com). Once that's all in place and the final LMDE respin is released then the .iso(s) of LMDE-KDE can be built and tested. I'm sure that testing of the new LMDE-KDE is going on right now. There simply won't be an "official" test .iso until LMDE respin is final.

Hope that makes sense.

Kmb42vt, thank you for the update, I give lots of merits on the team and what they are triying to achieve. In my opinion, this is the road to success and for other distributions, to emulate. However, omh opinion, when it comes to KDE, the team fails to keep the comunity informed properly. I'm not demanding anything, I'm grateful I can be a user and I admire LM for what it is and I'm faithful to the comunity; but LM needs to improve communications when it comes to KDE. Information like yours keeps every one together, other ways, if there is not information, people my feel there is not care and maight move to other distributions, which it is sad to do when, in my opinion, LM is the best.

[thenewguy]

Agreed. A year ago there was talk of Mint KDE being released at about the same time as the main edition releases. Now it's been about five months since Mint 11 came out and there's no sign of a KDE edition on the horizon. I don't mind the delay so much as the silence. Is KDE going to be based on LMDE? Is there even going to be a KDE edition going forward?

[craig10x]

Read Post #15 from Clem in the comments after the latest announcements on the main linux mint page...

[Gnarly]

Agreed. A year ago there was talk of Mint KDE being released at about the same time as the main edition releases. Now it's been about five months since Mint 11 came out and there's no sign of a KDE edition on the horizon. I don't mind the delay so much as the silence. Is KDE going to be based on LMDE? Is there even going to be a KDE edition going forward?

This has always been a problem with the Kde and the Fluxbox forums. There is very little comments/info from the Head developer's of said editions. You have to scrounge around for info.

Alittle update from time to time in the forums would be nice...

[JoeFootball]

Read Post #15 from Clem in the comments after the latest announcements on the main linux mint page...

(Thanks Craig) ...where Clem responds to a comment about LMDE KDE...

The fundation [sic] for it is LMDE. We’re in the process of updating it so it’s natural for Boo to step back and wait for a stable release.

...so I'm inferring that LMDE (now in RC release) needs to be finalized first.

Joe

[Fandangio]

KDE definitely feels like a 2nd class citizen around here (maybe not even that high).

I'm considering either adding the KDE packages to LMDE XFCE or upgrading to Kubuntu Oneric (beta).
The first option seems like an inefficient method (and I'm not sure 4.7 is in the repos anyway) so I'm leaning toward Kubuntu.

I have a 2nd PC which I'll put an install on tonight. I'll be a little sad to drop Mint if I go the Kubuntu route.

[solna]

KDE definitely feels like a 2nd class citizen around here (maybe not even that high).

I'm considering either adding the KDE packages to LMDE XFCE or upgrading to Kubuntu Oneric (beta).
The first option seems like an inefficient method (and I'm not sure 4.7 is in the repos anyway) so I'm leaning toward Kubuntu.

I have a 2nd PC which I'll put an install on tonight. I'll be a little sad to drop Mint if I go the Kubuntu route.

i dropped KDE 4.6.x on my Katya install(i went with KDE-Full just to ensure i didn't miss any libraries i might need, yeah, bit of software excess but you can always uninstall stuff afterwards...).

it's nice. very solid. it's tempting to drop it on an LMDE install but honestly, not knowing debian linux, i'll wait patiently for the LMDE-KDE spin.

[JoeFootball]

...i'll wait patiently for the LMDE-KDE spin.

Agreed. And seeing as LM 10 KDE is only six months old, I'm quite content with it while I wait. That said, I do admit to wanting to play with the new LMDE KDE as soon as possible.

Given that LMDE is a prerequisite for LMDE KDE, I'm going to keep my eye on that release going final before I get my expectations up.

Joe

[colyn]

I don't see KDE being released at least till the current version of LMDE goes into final. It is still RC..

[Xwang]

Is there any news or roadmap?
Thank you,
Xwang

[proxima_centauri]

KDE will be supported in LMDE in the future. See here for details.

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