craig10x wrote:................You kde fans don't realize how messed up this unity/shell situation is...most of the gnome users absolutely hate it...it is a totally unproductive desktop...again...
Sorry for the rant...but just had to get it off my chest...please stop whining so much...
MALsPa wrote:Still, the simple reality is that the GNOME version has always been the top priority, and it still is. Okay, so things didn't go according to plan and Mint 11 KDE got put on the back burner. That's how things go sometimes. Sorry, but if folks can't accept all that, then it seems to me that a "KDE distro" would be a better option. Or maybe just chill and wait a few months. Either way, I'm pretty sure that the world will keep on spinning and life will go on.
foggytown wrote:I don't get the whole stringing people along thing, who does that benefit?
Is Mint striving to be an example of how not to manage a "community" based distro?
First the CE gets dropped, allegedly striving for more parity. But unable to make a decent KDE spin from Ubuntu base. Then abandonment of Ubuntu base with a projected mid-August release goal. Then we need to finalize the LMDE spin, get on it right after that. Then it gets pushed back till after update packs are prepared, really really we will get on it after that. In the meantime the new Ubuntu gets released and the main edition takes precedence, after that...for real this time? Should I just assume that something else that takes precedence will come up before December? "Sorry we have to polish the gnome logo, we will do KDE in January."
And of course don't communicate like rational beings, leave hints in comments of unrelated blog posts...let people read tea leaves for the clues for all the good it will do them. If Clem does not want to do a KDE edition, then don't do one. But to string people along a month at a time is pretty much BS.
disciple1964 wrote:You cannot advertise a KDE version and then say , that those who use this version is not important. As with any development whether commercial or free, Communication is key, If you don't believe it, then why do so many businesses now use twitter to communicate upcoming products.
gogogadget wrote:... which makes me wonder, why Mint is provided with so many different Desktop environments. I mean what is this: Ubuntu has people who deliver Kubuntu, Lubuntu, Xubuntu etc., each one only caring about their specific Desktop Environment (at least, that's what I think), but in Mint every single one of them has to be made by Clem. No wonder it takes so long for a release...
Why not face reality and reduce the amount of different Mint DE's? I know it sounds bad, but if 75% use the Main Edition with Gnome, why not stick to it fully? Obviously the workload is too much to keep any release dates anymore - or by the time it's released it's outdated. And the delays take longer and longer each new version. Ridiculous. Better stick to the Main Edition and maybe the Debian version - skip the rest (including the attempt to maintain a Gnome 2.x Desktop again...). Hard but honest. If people hate Mint out of a sudden because of empty promises or because of dropped Desktop Environments - doesn't matter anymore.
DrTeeth wrote:The problem is, as I see it, that LMDE is broken/needs too much fiddling for many people to work as well as the Ubuntu-based Mint editions. I enjoy using Linux, and Mint especially. Using LMDE takes me back years when it used to take me less than 5 mins to find my first bug when trying a distro.
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