How Nautilus Installed?
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How Nautilus Installed?
Curious...
Anyone know how Nautilus got installed on LMDE-XFCE?
I install Swift Linux (LMDE based distro) because I like to build my system up to what I like. But I don't get nautilus installed, even after update to 'UPack4' with XFCE.
So I believed it has to be a dependency of one of the Gnome apps installed by default on LMDE-XFCE
J.Jay
Anyone know how Nautilus got installed on LMDE-XFCE?
I install Swift Linux (LMDE based distro) because I like to build my system up to what I like. But I don't get nautilus installed, even after update to 'UPack4' with XFCE.
So I believed it has to be a dependency of one of the Gnome apps installed by default on LMDE-XFCE
J.Jay
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Re: How Nautilus Installed?
I don't have an answer, just sympathies. I do use Nautilus, but I like the customizability of Nautilus 2.30 rather than the more "elementary" 3.x. So I back-tracked and installed LMDE_XFCE 201109, and selectively upgrade using Mint Update. I then unselect "Draw Desktop" under gconf-editor's Nautilus settings so that Nautilus doesn't take over the desktop.
Re: How Nautilus Installed?
There may be another / better way to do this but ...
Install the following package:
Run the following command:
It will list all of the packages that have nautilus as a dependency or as a "suggests" dependency. You may not have installed all of them - it's just telling you that if you install or have installed any of these packages nautilus may come with it.
EDIT: Wrong package to install, sorry
Install the following package:
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sudo apt-get install apt-rdepends
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apt-cache rdepends nautilus
EDIT: Wrong package to install, sorry
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Re: How Nautilus Installed?
ok, trying to answer this (and others questions like why with the latest updates gnome3 is to be installed into lmde-xfce)
first remember this http://blog.linuxmint.com/?p=1725 (when the xfce ed. was announced was very clear the goal of this ed., it was not a lean&mean xfce interpretation, was not a showcase of xfce, was a way to bring xfce mainstream (incorporating gnome features): i won't discuss the option, mostly because i'm not that used to xfce to judged it (and don't know for sure if it was/is really needed or xfce can/could provide all the "services" the average user needs.)
either way the rationale is clearly stated in the announcement page, so hardly anyone can feel fooled.
let's see (running a live-dvd - 201109)
why nautilus
why gnome3 (most probably because of this>>)
first remember this http://blog.linuxmint.com/?p=1725 (when the xfce ed. was announced was very clear the goal of this ed., it was not a lean&mean xfce interpretation, was not a showcase of xfce, was a way to bring xfce mainstream (incorporating gnome features): i won't discuss the option, mostly because i'm not that used to xfce to judged it (and don't know for sure if it was/is really needed or xfce can/could provide all the "services" the average user needs.)
either way the rationale is clearly stated in the announcement page, so hardly anyone can feel fooled.
let's see (running a live-dvd - 201109)
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mint@mint ~ $ inxi -Sr
System: Host mint Kernel 2.6.39-2-486 i686 (32 bit) Distro Linux Mint Xfce Edition
Repos: Active apt sources in file: /etc/apt/sources.list
deb http://packages.linuxmint.com/ debian main upstream import
deb http://debian.linuxmint.com/latest testing main contrib non-free
deb http://security.debian.org/ testing/updates main contrib non-free
deb http://www.debian-multimedia.org testing main non-free
mint@mint ~ $ uname -a
Linux mint 2.6.39-2-486 #1 Tue Jul 5 02:52:23 UTC 2011 i686 GNU/Linux
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mint@mint ~ $ dpkg --get-selections | grep nautilus
libnautilus-extension1 install
nautilus-gksu install
nautilus-open-terminal install
nautilus-sendto install
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mint@mint ~ $ dpkg --get-selections | grep gnome
gnome-about install
gnome-audio install
gnome-bluetooth install
gnome-desktop-data install
gnome-dictionary install
gnome-disk-utility install
gnome-doc-utils install
gnome-icon-theme install
gnome-js-common install
gnome-keyring install
gnome-mag install
gnome-media install
gnome-media-common install
gnome-menus install
gnome-mime-data install
gnome-mplayer install
gnome-netstatus-applet install
gnome-nettool install
gnome-ppp install
gnome-search-tool install
gnome-session-bin install
gnome-session-canberra install
gnome-session-common install
gnome-settings-daemon install
gnome-system-log install
gnome-system-monitor install
gnome-system-tools install
gnome-user-share install
gnome-utils-common install
gstreamer0.10-gnomevfs install
libgail-gnome-module install
libgnome-bluetooth7 install
libgnome-desktop-2-17 install
libgnome-keyring0 install
libgnome-keyring1.0-cil install
libgnome-mag2 install
libgnome-media0 install
libgnome-menu2 install
libgnome-speech7 install
libgnome-vfs2.0-cil install
libgnome-window-settings1 install
libgnome2-0 install
libgnome2-canvas-perl install
libgnome2-common install
libgnome2-perl install
libgnome2-vfs-perl install
libgnome2.24-cil install
libgnomecanvas2-0 install
libgnomecanvas2-common install
libgnomekbd-common install
libgnomekbd4 install
libgnomepanel2.24-cil install
libgnomeui-0 install
libgnomeui-common install
libgnomevfs2-0 install
libgnomevfs2-common install
libgnomevfs2-extra install
libpam-gnome-keyring install
libreoffice-gnome install
libsoup-gnome2.4-1 install
network-manager-gnome install
network-manager-pptp-gnome install
policykit-1-gnome install
python-gnome2 install
python-gnomeapplet install
python-gnomedesktop install
python-gnomekeyring install
Re: How Nautilus Installed?
Not fooled just curious
Just noticed on XFCE forums seemed to be the cause of some problems in XFCE. And because uninstalling Nautilus (ZZero stated included) doesn't cause problem. Just wondered what was the rationale for it or what it borks (surprise later) it causes by uninstalling.
J.Jay
P.S. normally if asked "which Linux" I recommend LMint (Ubuntu based) or Xubuntu (until Unity/Gnome3/mate/cinnamon settles). But with a (hopefully) new LMint13 XFCE spin will probably recomend that
I don't advise mangling LMDE (currently using Swift base ) like I like to do! But I still ask questions or wonder more In-depth reasons sometimes.
Just noticed on XFCE forums seemed to be the cause of some problems in XFCE. And because uninstalling Nautilus (ZZero stated included) doesn't cause problem. Just wondered what was the rationale for it or what it borks (surprise later) it causes by uninstalling.
J.Jay
P.S. normally if asked "which Linux" I recommend LMint (Ubuntu based) or Xubuntu (until Unity/Gnome3/mate/cinnamon settles). But with a (hopefully) new LMint13 XFCE spin will probably recomend that
I don't advise mangling LMDE (currently using Swift base ) like I like to do! But I still ask questions or wonder more In-depth reasons sometimes.
Re: How Nautilus Installed?
I don't have a problem with nautilus on LMDE-XFCE its a easy fix to uninstall or use gconf to set 'no draw desk'
BUT
Even people wanting to use nautilus may have problems with the drawing desktop ect. Can't the ISO or update set that without interfering with other stuff?
J.Jay
P.S. actually I don't have the associated problem (with what playing with now) But others do/might.
BUT
Even people wanting to use nautilus may have problems with the drawing desktop ect. Can't the ISO or update set that without interfering with other stuff?
J.Jay
P.S. actually I don't have the associated problem (with what playing with now) But others do/might.
Re: How Nautilus Installed?
yeahh, i know, wasn't referring to youNot fooled just curious
as i said above i'm not an xfce expert to know exactly if those addictions are absolutely necessary or we have better xfce counter-parts (referring to the nautilus extensions that xfce ships); i usually read in the forum that thunar is not *yet there* compared to nautilus.
- re. nautilus (and those associated lib) they can be safely uninstalled;
- it's trickier to do the same with most of gnome* lib in the other output (there i would recommend a lot of caution and read the output of any removal command at least twice: some of those libs depend on parts of the system that you don't want to see removed >> networkmanager, gnome-keyring)
Re: How Nautilus Installed?
I Tinker...
I just thought if can set gconf with update or next ISO (for the XFCE one) may alleviate some of the Problems being seen on the XFCE forum.
Personally I have parts from GTK, QT,script hacks, and who knows what else. So I'm constantly puting out fires (or starting them ) When get out of hand just start over
J.Jay
I just thought if can set gconf with update or next ISO (for the XFCE one) may alleviate some of the Problems being seen on the XFCE forum.
Personally I have parts from GTK, QT,script hacks, and who knows what else. So I'm constantly puting out fires (or starting them ) When get out of hand just start over
J.Jay
Re: How Nautilus Installed?
maybe you could install MATE's nautilus (caja) instead.drdavidk wrote:I don't have an answer, just sympathies. I do use Nautilus, but I like the customizability of Nautilus 2.30 rather than the more "elementary" 3.x. So I back-tracked and installed LMDE_XFCE 201109, and selectively upgrade using Mint Update. I then unselect "Draw Desktop" under gconf-editor's Nautilus settings so that Nautilus doesn't take over the desktop.
Re: How Nautilus Installed?
Thank you
I personally don't have nautilus. I start with another distro (based on LMDE) and update with Upacks (updates with Upacks and LMDE repo by default) and I'm currently running same UPack4 with XFCE4 + Goodies installed, basically just different package list Working good so far(crossing fingers).
I just wondering what to avoid so Not to get nautilus. That one reason I like installing apps with 'Mint's software Manager',
(let you see what also going to install)
I just don't want nautilus slipping in when not paying attention!
J.Jay
I personally don't have nautilus. I start with another distro (based on LMDE) and update with Upacks (updates with Upacks and LMDE repo by default) and I'm currently running same UPack4 with XFCE4 + Goodies installed, basically just different package list Working good so far(crossing fingers).
I just wondering what to avoid so Not to get nautilus. That one reason I like installing apps with 'Mint's software Manager',
(let you see what also going to install)
I just don't want nautilus slipping in when not paying attention!
J.Jay