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Broken OS

Postby Gazucha on Sun Aug 18, 2013 1:00 pm

Hi all,

can someone please point me in the right direction here...

I have a Thinkpad T61 which had Mint 14 Xfce alongside XP.
sda1 is XP
sda2 (includes)
sda4 (swap)
sda5 (home)

(and what is now)
sda7 (/).

Apart from Wifi connection problems, it had been running sweet for perhaps a month when several days ago, the 'minimise', 'expand' and 'close' options from the upper window corner just ceased to be.
I searched on various sites but found no solution, so thought it was a bug and re-installed the Xfce 14 OS.
The new install had the exact same problem, along with the 'right click' also failing to work. Which would show the menu but when I moved the cursor onto the menu it would disappear! The only way to close windows was via, 'ctrl Q`.

So, after wasting a few days clicking various preference options and typing in more commands than I remember, I decided to once again format the partition, only this time install Xfce 13, which I had hoped would be more stable.

The stupid system only went and installed with the exact same problem, only now it is totally useless. If I open a window, it stays open until I shutdown.

I installed all the updates and let the system overwrite various alterations that it wanted to do.

What do I do now?

What is it?

Thanks in advance.
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Re: Broken OS

Postby passerby on Sun Aug 18, 2013 8:04 pm

I don't know what the exact cause is, but for it to have not always been present and to now span across reinstalls, I'm assuming it's one of the XFCE config files.
You could try purging xfwm4, since that's the window manager. eg.
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sudo apt-get purge xfwm4
sudo rm -rf ~/.config/xfce4/xfwm4
sudo apt-get install xfwm4 xfce4
killall xfwm4

That'll remove xfwm4 and delete its config files (or at least the ones I know about), reinstall xfwm4 and xfce4 (since the latter depends on a package that was just removed), then restart the window manager.
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Re: Broken OS

Postby Gazucha on Sun Aug 18, 2013 9:04 pm

Hi, thanks for the suggestion but that failed on apt-get, with the following message...

The following packages have unmet dependencies:
xfce4 : Depends: xfce4-session (>= 4.8.0) but it is not going to be installed
Depends: xfce4-appfinder (>= 4.8.0) but it is not going to be installed
E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.


Funny thing is that the 'right-click' works fine in Terminal! Still no upper window 'minimise/close-options' though.


So what -and where- are my 'broken packages'?
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Re: Broken OS

Postby passerby on Sun Aug 18, 2013 10:37 pm

Looks like it's trying to pull XFCE packages of different versions.
Try installing xfwm4 by itself. If that doesn't work (or you encounter problems without xfce4), you could run "sudo aptitude install xfwm4 xfce4" and cycle through the suggestions until you get one that suits you.
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Re: Broken OS

Postby Gazucha on Sun Aug 18, 2013 10:47 pm

Ok, so first command did nothing,


2nd command gave this...

The following NEW packages will be installed:
desktop-base{a} orage{a} tango-icon-theme{a} xfce4 xfce4-notifyd{a}
xfce4-utils{a}

0 packages upgraded, 6 newly installed, 0 to remove and 31 not upgraded.
Need to get 11.0 MB of archives. After unpacking 27.8 MB will be used.
The following packages have unmet dependencies:
xfce4-appfinder : Breaks: xfce4-utils but 4.8.3-1ubuntu2 is to be installed.
xfce4-session : Breaks: xfce4-utils but 4.8.3-1ubuntu2 is to be installed.
The following actions will resolve these dependencies:

Keep the following packages at their current version:
1) xfce4 [Not Installed]
2) xfce4-utils [Not Installed]



Accept this solution? [Y/n/q/?]



Should I select [n] ?
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Re: Broken OS

Postby passerby on Sun Aug 18, 2013 11:59 pm

Select n; the current suggestion won't do anything.
It's usually a cycle of hitting n until some upgrade/downgrade suggestions come up. Beware of the suggestions that remove hundreds of packages :/
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Re: Broken OS

Postby Gazucha on Mon Aug 19, 2013 9:22 am

Ok, well that totally crashed the system and now I can no longer even enter. Only via recovery mode.
If I try to log in normally, it tells me, "Failed to load session Ubuntu"

Shall I just format all partitions and start again? Or shall I try another release? Mint 11 Lxde runs well on another machine.
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Re: Broken OS

Postby passerby on Mon Aug 19, 2013 4:40 pm

Since you have your /home partition separate, I'd reinstall. It'll be faster and cleaner than trying to change everything back.
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Re: Broken OS

Postby Gazucha on Tue Aug 20, 2013 11:15 pm

Well that seems to be working.

Oh the blessing of having separate partitions!

Thanks for the advice and time...
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