I am not sure, offhand, what ktorrent would pull in with itself, but it is a moot point. Even though I use it, along with K3b and ksnapshot, I do NOT feel it is right to use these packages in an Xfce release. I would like the iso to stay as Xfce-centric, or at least neutral, as possible. What I do with the iso on my own system is another matter, but I sure dont want an Xfce release shock full of Gnome or KDE stuff, no matter how good the apps are. Just a matter of principle. Sorry I did not make that clear in my above post, I thought it was implied.