Daryna XFCE CE Final long delay

[VaMPiRiC_CRoW]

If we use the current beta version, we need to install XFCE final version again, or we can get it by update?

[daelsta]

Hi,

good luck for you and your family!

Replacing Firefox with Opera would be like a dream come true for me
Personally i really don't understand the hype about Fx. Ok on the one hand it's open source but on the other hand it's a ressource hungry, slow beast that offers less than opera.
For a lightweight system opera would be great and could replace thunderbird too.
Just my two cents.

Merry X-mas and good luck

Greetz daelsta

[merlwiz79]

If we use the current beta version, we need to install XFCE final version again, or we can get it by update?

This shouldn't be the case.
I hope to just have a script do most of the updating.
If you made a /home partition, it would be easy to install the final and keep it.
I hope I find what's causing the problems soon.

[wubuntu]

Hi Merlwiz,

hope all its ok!

Do you know when the final will be released?

[jbaerbock]

Just tried the Beta and looks very good so far. Haven't run into any major glitches that I can see (though I just running the liveCD). Keep it up MerlWiz I look forward to the final release. Who knows by then my World of Warcraft addiction may be satisfied and I can switch to linux once and for all .

[merlwiz79]

Just tried the Beta and looks very good so far. Haven't run into any major glitches that I can see (though I just running the liveCD). Keep it up MerlWiz I look forward to the final release. Who knows by then my World of Warcraft addiction may be satisfied and I can switch to linux once and for all .

Here is how to run WoW on Linux.(Ubuntu/Linux Mint)
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WorldofWarcraft
As for Linux Mint XFCE CE, I still haven't found what is causing Firefox to use more RAM than it's suppose to.
I was working on it then all of a sudden, with out me changing anything in Xubuntu Gutsy, It started to use more RAM.
I have to start over again and hopefully I will see what's causing it.
My hand is beginning to have pain in them a lot, so it's slowing me down.

[jbaerbock]

Try working your hand muscles with one of those stress balls (about medium resistance). Seriously works wonders for my hands when doing lots of computer stuff. And thanks for the WoW link but I've tried everything already. It amounts to my 200M ATI card not being fully supported in Wine yet (apparently). I can get WoW running decently (10fps) as long as I do not go into a town or place with more than a few things moving. If I attack only one thing at once it is ok too, but any more stress than that and my FPS drops to something like 1-2fps. And after about 15 minutes of play (regardless of intensity) WoW unfailingly freezes up on me. Other games of mine work fine under Wine, only WoW is the issue (well and other extreamly graphics sucking games).

[khai]

any updates on final version development?

[merlwiz79]

any updates on final version development?

I think I am going to start from Cassandra and work my way up to Daryna.
I might have left an old config file in there and it could be causing the problems.
Something has to be making Firefox(all Mozilla browsers) act memory hungry.

[daelsta]

So why don't you replace firefox? there are a few alternatives...

greetz daelsta

[merlwiz79]

So why don't you replace firefox? there are a few alternatives...

greetz daelsta

Because it still should work the same even if others don't want to use it.
Also it's all Mozilla based browsers not just Firefox.

[awong]

So why don't you replace firefox? there are a few alternatives...

greetz daelsta

Because it still should work the same even if others don't want to use it.
Also it's all Mozilla based browsers not just Firefox.

Firefox is my main browser. I support its use in Mint XFCE. FF is very functional and still growing in popularity, IMO.

[belovedmonster]

You say Firefox 3 doesn't have the problem. Does anyone know when it will launch? Early 08 is as much as I know.

Incidentally, FF3 is supposed to be way a lot less hungry than FF2 in general, so even without this problem FF3 would use less resources.

[Wasda]

I'm running XFCE in virtualbox with 512 mb ram.
I have removed compiz totally.
I have run Firefox for two hours and the memory use was max 72 mb with a lot of tabs opening and closing.
But it feels slow, somehow.

[khai]

don't want to sound unpatient (i know i do), but what happened to Daryna XFCE?
is there any chance that there will be a final version, or will it be skipped and work will progress towards Elyssa XFCE beta?

[merlwiz79]

don't want to sound unpatient (i know i do), but what happened to Daryna XFCE?
is there any chance that there will be a final version, or will it be skipped and work will progress towards Elyssa XFCE beta?

Don't worry, I also wish the final was finished.
Not sure how long t will take but hope to find the problem.
Me and my wife had car accident and that has taken over on my time.
We are fine, the car isn't though.
Here are updates to mintDesktop and mintConfig.
mintDesktop is here http://linuxmint.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=56157#p56157
mintConfig is here http://linuxmint.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=110&t=9049

Also you need to edit your sources.list file.
gksu mousepad /etc/apt/sources.list
Delete everything in the old file and replace it with this.

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##
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## LINUX MINT REPOSITORIES ##
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## +++ Daryna (Linux Mint 4.0) +++
#LinuxMint - Main Upstream Import
deb http://www.linuxmint.com/repository/ daryna main upstream import
#LinuxMint - Community
deb http://www.linuxmint.com/repository/ daryna community
#LinuxMint - Backport
deb http://www.linuxmint.com/repository/ daryna backport

## +++ Romeo (Linux Mint Unstable) +++
# deb http://www.linuxmint.com/repository/ romeo daryna

## +++ Source Repositories +++
# deb-src http://www.linuxmint.com/repository/ daryna main upstream import
# deb-src http://www.linuxmint.com/repository/ daryna community
# deb-src http://www.linuxmint.com/repository/ daryna backport
# deb-src http://www.linuxmint.com/repository/ romeo daryna

##
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## ------------------- ##
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## UBUNTU REPOSITORIES ##
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## ------------------- ##

## +++ Gutsy (Ubuntu 7.10) +++
deb http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ gutsy main restricted universe multiverse
deb http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ gutsy-updates main restricted universe multiverse
deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ gutsy-security main restricted universe multiverse

## +++ Backports & Proposed (Ubuntu Unstable) +++
#deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ gutsy-backports main restricted universe multiverse
#deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ gutsy-proposed main restricted universe multiverse

## +++ Source Repositories +++
#deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ gutsy main restricted universe multiverse 
#deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ gutsy-updates main restricted universe multiverse 
#deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ gutsy-security main restricted universe multiverse 
#deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ gutsy-backports main restricted universe multiverse 

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## OTHER REPOSITORIES - SOFTWARE ##
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## +++ Canonical +++
#Canontical- Proprietäre Software
deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/ gutsy partner

## +++ Medibuntu +++
#Medibuntu
deb http://packages.medibuntu.org/ gutsy free non-free
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## Exaile Music Player updates working now
deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/exaile-devel/ubuntu gutsy main
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##  Wicd Updates
deb http://apt.wicd.net gutsy extras
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## Swiftfox
deb http://getswiftfox.com/builds/debian/ unstable non-free
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[merlwiz79]

You need to edit your sources.list to receive the latest updates.(example: Firefox)
mintDesktop 0.8 and mintConfig
For the above updates look at my last post.
Other updates:
GPicView latest .deb http://downloads.sourceforge.net/lxde/g ... g_mirror=0
Brasero http://www.getdeb.net/release.php?id=2037
Deluge http://download.deluge-torrent.org/ubun ... .gutsy.deb
Wicd http://downloads.sourceforge.net/wicd/w ... g_mirror=0

[jbaerbock]

I feel your pain merlwiz, I got rearended in a McDonald's drive thru. Thankfully my car has the worlds toughest bumper lol (has lifted a truck off the ground before) so no real damage except a small smudge was done.

About firefox, I have heard any edition currently out there is full of memory holes and leaks. So it sounds like it wouldn't be something you could fix, sounds more like a problem Mozilla has to address. I have always had problems with FF (freeze ups, crashes, etc) in both linux and windows worlds. Sadly though I can never find a Linux browser that comes close to it. Though if anyone knows of a simple yet feature rich browser that can work well in XFCE (preferably not GTK or QT dependant) let me know.

[Zwopper]

Opera...

[merlwiz79]

I feel your pain merlwiz, I got rearended in a McDonald's drive thru. Thankfully my car has the worlds toughest bumper lol (has lifted a truck off the ground before) so no real damage except a small smudge was done.

About firefox, I have heard any edition currently out there is full of memory holes and leaks. So it sounds like it wouldn't be something you could fix, sounds more like a problem Mozilla has to address. I have always had problems with FF (freeze ups, crashes, etc) in both linux and windows worlds. Sadly though I can never find a Linux browser that comes close to it. Though if anyone knows of a simple yet feature rich browser that can work well in XFCE (preferably not GTK or QT dependant) let me know.

Xubuntu Gutsy and Daryna(main and KDE) doesn't have the same problem, it has to do with something in Daryna XFCE CE only.
Firefox 3.0 beta 3 doesn't the same amount of this problem, but if the others don't have this problem, then neither should XFCE CE.