Bill Lariviere wrote:Right now i'm still using Mint 10. When i'm gonna upgrade in spring i'm hesitating between the main Mint 13 with Cinnamon or LMDE with XFCE. If an Ubuntu-based XFCE distro would exist, that would be my choice for sure!
Bill Lariviere wrote:[quote="sunewbie"
If you are not a tech geek, then LMDX is not a good choice as on today. Till, Clem himself does not announce that LMDE is fairly stable and safe for end users, you think twice before installing. If you go for it, it should not be the only distro.
sunewbie wrote:@ ddalley I hope Mint devs will provide network ready XFCE (if they at all make XFCE edition, fingers crossed)
sunewbie wrote:The problem with both methods is that you get 2 apps like 2 terminals, 2 file managers, 2 doc editors, etc. So there i work to be done after installation. LM 13 XFCE based on Ubuntu saves time, work, and MBs, hence it is better choice, if you want XFCE on full fledged desktop.
gn2 wrote:Sometimes when you try to remove unwanted stuff from a new desktop you run into dependency problems.
I just edit unwanted items out of the menu but leave the packages in place.
ddalley wrote:I have not used rolling releases long enough to recognise any long-term problems yet. The theory, as I see it, is that I won't have to deal with completely replacing old distros, as time marches on. Hopefully, I will have enough decades left on this Earth to test the theory well.
sunewbie wrote:Keyboard launchers are not bad. They increase work efficiency.
sunewbie wrote:I have installed synapse. Yesterday, I was typing a doc in writer, which I saved and closed it. Later I typed the file in synapse and it was displayed, waiting me to hit enter. So no need to go behind menus.
sunewbie wrote:The problem is that these devs are seeing a lot of un-tapped marketed, not dominated by M$ in the world of touch screen.
MikeF90000 wrote:That's your opinion, we have to agree to disagree for usefulness on desktop platforms.
An 'app finder' could be useful on a smartphone with a small touchscreen and 'well known' apps. OTOH on a Linux DE it will find all of the obscure packages (see any default menu) that are installed by default and rarely used. I've seen this behavior in gnome-shell and unity and am Not amused.
Thanks for the tip. I installed and tried it, it found apps but didn't find any 'documents' in my home folder - maybe a man page read is in order.
EDIT - here's a pic of my lean, clean xfce 4.8 desktop layout
sunewbie wrote:We have great brain storming response from fellow members with excellent inputs. 75 posts are too long to read. So I have tried to type the essence in the first post. Do let me know if I have missed anything.
We would like to have: .. snip ..
3) Prefer LMDE based on Debian Stable with Official backports enabled. (Like Saline OS, but with Mint Freshness)
4) Prefer LMDE based on Debian Stable with Official backports enabled, *but would like to have latest software.
(*Seems contradictory) .. snip ...
MikeF90000 wrote:Good points. However ....
An XFCE v4.8 backport to Debian Stable (current=Squeeze) might be another huge effort. Agree that LM (and XFCE) devs are spread thin enough, so I'm happy with the current rolling release. I won't go back to Squeeze with XFCE v4.6!!
Unfortunately, Debian Testing (current=Wheezy) is scheduled for 'freezing' this June and probably won't be released 'stable' until next year. Arrgghh!! This means that the (new, possibly different, possibly less stable) GTK3 version of XFCE (4.10) won't be included. Maybe no big deal ...
Sorry to be slightly off topic
Need to research the app 'ignore update' feature of Mint Update (under Edit-->Preferences) further. Is this unique to Mint? If so, Major Applause! It appears to be a good way to preserve stable, critical apps in a rolling release.
Likewise, is there a user friendly (GUI) way to 'go back' to a previous version of a package? I haven't had this issue, yet ....
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