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Re: Mint Debian

Postby exploder on Sun Mar 08, 2009 11:46 am

I saw this today while visting the Mepis forum.

http://www.geekconnection.org/remasters ... stool.html

This has an installer according to the site.
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Re: Mint Debian

Postby awong on Mon Mar 09, 2009 4:17 am

I've used remastersys to make my own private installable EduMint DVD distro. It's fairly easy to use and works surprising well for what I needed to do. It's worth experimenting with in my opinion.
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Re: Mint Debian/ A POSSIBLE WORKAROUND

Postby npap on Mon Mar 16, 2009 2:57 pm

Just curious. :)
What would you Gurus think of the following scheme?

1) Get Mepis AntiX 8, IceWM desktop (Advantage: The fast and simple Mepis installer.).
http://mirror.cs.vt.edu/pub/MEPIS/antix/antiX-M8.iso


2) Add Gnome using Synaptics.
The result is a Debian Lenny-based version using the fast Mepis installer.

3) Clean up any unwanted branding and software.

4) Add all the Mint goodies to it.

As a matter of fact, I have done steps 1 and 2 . This hybrid Debian is working beautifully in my test disk.
I have no idea on how to use Remastersys. Perhaps, I have no idea of what I'm talking about :lol: .
Will somebody be kind enough to consider this odd scheme? :)
Good luck :) ,
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Re: Mint Debian

Postby rivenought on Mon Mar 16, 2009 3:45 pm

MEPIS AntiX 8 + GNOME = A really festive idea. I like what you have cooked up thus far. OK, well, I am undecided on the Brady Bunch orange panel you have up top. It is artistic, to say the least.

I have been giving a pure Debian install a thorough test-driving. After plenty of fiddling, I think I have a good bit of the Mint functionality, if not the tools. That is why I have liked experiments such as Glacix so much. I have not heard much out of maybeway36 lately.

Anticapitalista has done excellent work on the AntiX versions I have tested. Honestly, the only reason I have not done much further testing was the homesickness for Mint and GNOME.

Anyway, yeah, +1 on your idea, npap.
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Re: Mint Debian/ A POSSIBLE WORKAROUND

Postby npap on Tue Mar 17, 2009 6:09 am

Thanks for your approval Rivenought. :D

My only complaint about Debian has always been the long time that it takes to install.
So, with a free ride on Anti X 8, I got a Debian (by accident) that took much less time. :) Besides, isn't the installer that has been an issue with the Mint Debian?

You seem to know more than I do on this matter, so why not take an initiative to give this project a push.
I don't think that Mepis will object to taking advantage of their very good installer. And Anti would probably be
eager and happy to help.

Thanks again,
Greetings, npap
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Re: Mint Debian

Postby rivenought on Tue Mar 17, 2009 7:08 am

I agree that the installation time for a plain Debian install took longer than Mint. However, after downloading DVD 1 and not adding a mirror to begin with, the installation was much faster. When all packages are pulled from the DVD, time is cut down to about 35 or 45 minutes on my system. I have a sources list to add once I have everything up and running to get multimedia and backports set up. Then, it only takes a few little blocks of code/scripts I have put together to have the system rocking. Yes, it took me numerous times of trial and error, as well as lots of note-taking with good old Zim, to get as far as I am at this point. I am learning just like everyone else. It is slow, but I am making progress.

I am not, and most likely will never be, in the league with Anticapitalista. He is much more talented than I am. If he was to decide to do a project over this way, I know I would be happy to help him do some testing. I do try to help out where and when I can.

I keep wondering what Warren could come up with in regards to using GNOME with his MEPIS instead of KDE. I still need to do some experimenting over in his campground sometime soon.
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Re: Mint Debian

Postby npap on Tue Mar 17, 2009 7:34 am

rivenought wrote:I am not, and most likely will never be, in the league with Anticapitalista. He is much more talented than I am. If he was to decide to do a project over this way, I know I would be happy to help him do some testing. I do try to help out where and when I can.

I keep wondering what Warren could come up with in regards to using GNOME with his MEPIS instead of KDE. I still need to do some experimenting over in his campground sometime soon.


Good work Rivenought :)

As a matter of fact, I suggested the idea of a Gnome version to Anti.
He seemed to accept it but he said that he didn't have the time to maintain two different distributions.

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Re: Mint Debian

Postby maybeway36 on Tue Mar 17, 2009 6:38 pm

If someone wanted to make a Mepis-based "minty" CD, that would be great. You can't use remastersys with Mepis; it uses its own system, and I don't really know much about it.
You could look here if you're interested:
http://www.mepis.org/docs/en/index.php/Remastering_script
EDIT: Just saw exploder's post. Didn't know remastersys had an installer. Nice!
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Re: Mint Debian

Postby anticapitalista on Tue Mar 17, 2009 7:15 pm

I'll join the thread to mention that there is someone called vampirefo already making a gnome MEPIS

http://www.mepislovers.org/forums/showt ... nome+MEPIS

You could quite easily do the same with antiX (as has been done) or maybe even better by using the antiX-base version.

How well MINT tools would work on an antiX (or MEPIS) Debian base I have no idea, but I'd be interested in finding out.

Good luck with the project.

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Re: Mint Debian

Postby npap on Wed Mar 18, 2009 7:24 am

You're a great guy, Anti :)
Having followed Mepis during its evolution, I have been wondering when this extremely well-designed distribution will finally come out with a Gnome desktop.
So, your information on the matter is great news.
I have been using Mepis for years as an alternative, for reliability, when my other distribution in my dual-boot system fails.

Will download Mepis-Gnome and give some feedback as soon as possible..

I would surely like to see Mepis and Mint get together. Mepis IMHO deserves a better place in the "Linux Hall of Fame"

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Re: Mint Debian

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Re: Mint Debian/ A POSSIBLE WORKAROUND

New postby npap on Mon Mar 16, 2009 8:57 pm
Just curious. :)
What would you Gurus think of the following scheme?

1) Get Mepis AntiX 8, IceWM desktop (Advantage: The fast and simple Mepis installer.).
http://mirror.cs.vt.edu/pub/MEPIS/antix/antiX-M8.iso


2) Add Gnome using Synaptics.
The result is a Debian Lenny-based version using the fast Mepis installer.

3) Clean up any unwanted branding and software.

4) Add all the Mint goodies to it.


Sounds good. Here is another idea....install Parsix. (Debian based with Gnome interface.) Then add the Mint goodies and do the clean up. What do ya think?
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Re: Mint Debian

Postby merlwiz79 on Thu Jul 30, 2009 3:42 am

Here is how to make Debian Minty, with custom mintmenu, mint-info and mintsystem packages.
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Re: Mint Debian

Postby clem on Sat Aug 01, 2009 10:14 am

Hi,

Just a little note to say that I'm planning on working on the Debian edition again, and this time the goal won't be just an ALPHA experiment.

- mintconstructor is now compatible with Debian Live. I pushed the code change in github yesterday.
- I'm planning to write an installer.
- It will be a rolling distribution.
- Neither the release cycle nor the version numbers will follow those of the other Mint editions.
- Improvements will be pushed towards it incrementally, so it will miss features at first, and slowly but surely it will catch up with the other editions.
- It should be based on Debian testing, possibly Debian Unstable.

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Re: Mint Debian

Postby rivenathos on Sat Aug 01, 2009 2:53 pm

Clem,
This is excellent news! I am looking forward to helping with testing. I already run Debian Lenny 64-bit, as well as the 32-bit version on another machine. Please keep us updated on your progress.
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Re: Mint Debian

Postby tawan on Sun Aug 02, 2009 1:11 am

Cool news.
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Re: Mint Debian

Postby kanishka on Sun Aug 02, 2009 4:14 am

Fantastic!!! This is great news indeed. I would put this announcment in the main page!
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Re: Mint Debian

Postby Zwopper on Sun Aug 02, 2009 4:40 am

Great news indeed! 8)
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Re: Mint Debian

Postby exploder on Sun Aug 02, 2009 9:38 am

I would like to see this happen with KDE too. I love the idea of a rolling release.
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Re: Mint Debian

Postby Fred on Sun Aug 02, 2009 10:40 am

Great news! That's about all I can say. :-)

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Re: Mint Debian

Postby clem on Mon Aug 03, 2009 3:34 pm

Sorry ikey, it's too late :)

I've already done the GUI for it and most of the underlying system, so the installer is well on its way. I'll publish the code to github soon so you'll be able to fork it and propose changes.

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As you can see I didn't include any fancy options and only one partition can be selected. I want things to work asap so I can then take my time and improve this edition as I go along, incrementally.

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