Linux Mint 6 Fluxbox CE Suggestions/Wishlist/Discussion

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Re: Linux Mint 6 Fluxbox CE Suggestions/Wishlist/Discussion

Postby rhvkl on Sun Nov 02, 2008 8:02 pm

Guestman wrote:No no no, please not a google thing! With the doubts on the user privacy about Chrome for example, not Google again!


... absolutly right.
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Re: Linux Mint 6 Fluxbox CE Suggestions/Wishlist/Discussion

Postby guest on Mon Nov 03, 2008 10:11 pm

Guestman wrote:
Zwopper wrote:
Guestman wrote:No no no, please not a google thing! With the doubts on the user privacy about Chrome for example, not Google again!

OK!
How about... :wink:
You know it's goGGle, not gOOgle...

Would you say that it is not Google? OK, but the homepage is http://code.google.com/p/gogglesmm/. code gOOgle.com! So what about? :wink:


FYI code.google.com is Google's open source project hosting service available to any open source project. (http://code.google.com/opensource/).
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Re: Linux Mint 6 Fluxbox CE Suggestions/Wishlist/Discussion

Postby Brian168 on Tue Nov 11, 2008 6:10 am

In my opinion Fluxbox is the only WM that displays "Window Transparency" beautifully that goes with it, probably via "xcompmgr + Transset" . Which obviously is one of its "cool eye candy" alternative features, just as GNOME+Compiz Fusion. I hope there is a feature option on Mint 6 Fluxbox to have this enabled out of the box. TNX :)
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Re: Linux Mint 6 Fluxbox CE Suggestions/Wishlist/Discussion

Postby Guest on Tue Nov 11, 2008 11:24 am

[quote="Brian168"]In my opinion Fluxbox is the only WM that displays True "Window Transparency and Fade effects" beautifully that goes with it, probably via "xcompmgr + Transset" . Which obviously is one of its "cool eye candy" alternative installs, just as GNOME+Compiz Fusion. I hope there is a feature option on Mint 6 Fluxbox to have this enabled out of the box. TNX :wink:
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One browser! Keep Thunar!

Postby jokkel on Wed Nov 12, 2008 5:56 pm

I think, since Fluxbox already is a niche more geeky desktop environment a lot of people who use it will install whatever apps they like best. This has become especially apparent with all the audio players and terminal emulators listed above. But I think Mint should strive to provide a good desktop experience first and a lightweight system second. This means choosing a more demanding application over one lacking basic features or stability.
The most important thing is to provide sane defaults, that most people will be comfortable with. It's not possible to please every user with the default install. It's no big deal to install your favourite file manager, browser, audio player, terminal and office suite. Just provide a good application for each of these categories.

Browser
Stick to Firefox. All other oss browsers are close to useless (dillo, elinks) or unstable (kazehakase) or not much lighter (epiphany, conqueror). A very good lightweight and fully featured browser is Opera, but alas it's not free software.
Installing two browsers is bloat. Offering a good default choice of applications to provide a usable desktop linux is Ubuntu's and Mint's goal. Don't provide more than one application for the same use.
Audio Player
Perhaps it's an idea to not include a separate audio player at all. All the video players can play audio files just fine and have a playlist feature. Otherwise my vote goes to banshee, even if that means installing a lot of mono stuff.
Terminal
I don't care. Just pick one using GTK. Honestly the differences are often minute. I've always used the default Terminal on all my Linux/BSD/Mac OS systems.
File Management
Thunar is a very fine file manager with a lot of useful features and good integration with other xcfe tools. PCManFM doesn't offer anything over Thunar. Thunar is in much more active development and we get all the useful mint additions for free. Keep Thunar, there is no need for change.
Office
While AbiWord and GnuMeric really suck monkey balls, they are more lightweight than OOO.org. I will use OOO.org in any case, but I don't mind installing it by hand.

To sum it up: Just provide one browser being either Firefox or Opera. Keep Thunar, because of integration, features and active development. I don't care wich audio player, terminal and office suite is provided by default.

- I would really like to reduce the dependency on XFCE and Gnome tools for system configuration. If you know of any other set of configuration tools please mention them. They should be under active development and preferably with a debian repository (even better if its ubuntu). Ideally it would be great to write our own configuration tools.
Writing your own configuration tools is a huge project. Since they are not used all the time I think we can stay with the xfce and gnome tools. How often do you change your settings after the installation anyway? Once a week or month? I can live with a config tool eating more RAM and CPU for the five minutes I use it. It's more important for system settings to be reliable than to be lean and mean.
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Re: Linux Mint 6 Fluxbox CE Suggestions/Wishlist/Discussion

Postby Helmut on Thu Nov 13, 2008 8:58 am

Hi shane and the rest,
Up to now I've been shutting up reading this really productive discussion. I do like they direction this project is going.
Now I can't refrain from adding my two cents worth:

1) Lets keep in mind we can still choose applications once this Fluxbox edition is installed and running on our boxes. If we don't like Abiword or Firefox or XYZ, we can replace it with something else.


2) It is imperative(!) that the default Fluxbox installation keeps slim enough to run on old boxes with weak CPU and meager RAM.
After all thats what Fluxbox edition is supposed to be all about, otherwise we may as well run something else! Agreed?

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Re: Linux Mint 6 Fluxbox CE Suggestions/Wishlist/Discussion

Postby Gonzo168 on Fri Nov 14, 2008 6:34 am

My Wish for the upcoming Linux Mint 6 Fluxbox is for Atheros AR5BXB63 Chipset / AR5006EG/ AR5007EG to "WORK" properly out of the box in all sense. That goes for me and to ALL who are using it. --- :|
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