Any chance for seeing a 64 bit release?

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Any chance for seeing a 64 bit release?

Postby keljaden on Sat Jul 24, 2010 12:37 am

Any chance of there being a 64 bit fluxbox release? I really like the FB editions of LM, but for my desktop, a 64 bit OS is the most appropriate for my system. I know the 32 bit is the main focus for the FB release, but almost every new computer on the market has a 64 bit compatible CPU and 4 gigs of RAM so they can take advantage of having a 64 bit OS.

Also, how much extra work goes into a 64 bit version? I am not sure if I am asking a lot or not. I know Kendall is extremely busy, but I'd like to see FB on 64 bit. (I am thrilled to see the 64 bit XFCE release this time though).
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Re: Any chance for seeing a 64 bit release?

Postby Kendall on Sat Jul 24, 2010 3:01 am

For the lighter and faster desktops in Mint 9, only Xfce will see a 64 bit edition. At the moment the people who are primarily using Fluxbox and LXDE are using older hardware setups, most of which will not support 64 bit. This isn't to say that there aren't people with 64 bit capable machines who are, but just that that particular segment of the user base isn't really that large, especially considering that the Fluxbox edition covers a very small niche market in the first place.

Also, there's the aspect of the amount of work that goes into it. Basically, most of the legwork can be done with the 32 bit edition and the same changes applied to the 64 bit base, but then there's testing and debugging which can often severely vary between the two. I did one preliminary 64 bit build of the LXDE edition fairly early on, but the executive decision was to wait and reexamine the option for a later release.

Also consider that Fluxbox isn't exactly a well maintained project anymore. Only very recently has there been any new activity on the development front with it and I'm unsure as to how that will progress in the coming months. That, and there are some bugs in it that I don't foresee ever getting fixed. This poses a question as to the future of the Fluxbox edition. Personally I'm a bit of a Fluxbox junkie and have used and preferred it for almost as long as I've messed with Linux in any capacity, but even I'm finding it hard to put a lot of faith into the continued development and improvement of the project

It's true that I'm busy as I'm now producing 4 releases for 2 distros on top of a job that demands overtime every week. I'm leaving my job in October for a sysadmin position that will free up a very large chunk of my time, so I'll have much more time to invest in Linux related projects. We'll see what the future holds, but right now Mint 9 Fluxbox is only going to be a 32 bit release and I'm (hopefully) very close to having the release candidate out.

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Re: Any chance for seeing a 64 bit release?

Postby chasmc on Sun Jul 25, 2010 5:09 pm

Well I have been waiting for several months here for an amd64 Fluxbox also,
so I I'll raise my hand too for a 2nd vote for it if a vote would ever come.

Though I guess I should start trying to figure out a work around.

What would be better? Should I put on Standard LinuxMint 9 and on startup kill gdm then launch a package installed fluxbox?

Or maybe I should install XFCE 64 version, kill that desktop enviro and launch fluxbox same type of way?


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Re: Any chance for seeing a 64 bit release?

Postby Kendall on Mon Jul 26, 2010 8:18 pm

Mint Fluxbox has a lot more in common with Mint Xfce than it does with Mint Gnome so it would probably make a better starting point for something like this.
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Re: Any chance for seeing a 64 bit release?

Postby chasmc on Tue Jul 27, 2010 1:15 pm

Now that I read more about the virtues of amd64 or mostly lack thereof, I think I'm now leaning towards being nuetral and I'll probably be ok with the 32-bit compilation.

Yeh I think I'll be ok with 32-bit FluxBox when it goes full production.


Thanks everyone involved in making it. :D


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