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Re: Daryna Fluxbox CE BETA 028 released.

Postby exploder on Fri Jan 04, 2008 8:04 pm

Husse found this bug and I found the same when I set my system to auto log.

I found that the user Mint exists in mintConfig > Login Window > Security
Enable Automatic login
and
Enable timed login
when it's installed

Here is how to fix this bug

Open the terminal.

Type, sudo thunar and enter your password.

Open "Filesystem" and delete the "mint" folder. (The mint folder is an empty folder.)

The user mint will no longer appear.
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Re: Daryna Fluxbox CE BETA 028 released.

Postby exploder on Fri Jan 04, 2008 11:41 pm

I have Shoutcast .PLS files working. The fix for this was to install Xmms. Could someone else that has the beta installed confirm this? I tried several things before I came up with an answer.

Is this a fix that the community would like? Has anyone else come up with another answer?

If this is an acceptable solution we could find a Minty skin for the default Xmms theme.

Here is one suggestion for a theme http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show. ... tent=58688
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Re: Daryna Fluxbox CE BETA 028 released.

Postby molom on Sat Jan 05, 2008 5:20 am

I don't get it... How come Linux Mint has all the best releases? LM KDE is better than PCLOS by far, LM Gnome is better than every distro and this Fluxbox edition is better than any Fluxbox distro. I hope Linux Mint E17 will be the best E17 distro! MINT RULZ!!!

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Re: Daryna Fluxbox CE BETA 028 released.

Postby merlwiz79 on Sat Jan 05, 2008 5:53 am

exploder wrote:I have Shoutcast .PLS files working. The fix for this was to install Xmms. Could someone else that has the beta installed confirm this? I tried several things before I came up with an answer.

Is this a fix that the community would like? Has anyone else come up with another answer?

If this is an acceptable solution we could find a Minty skin for the default Xmms theme.

Here is one suggestion for a theme http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show. ... tent=58688

This is a problem with mplayer.
You can use mplayer to play it, but you have to download the file and run this in terminal:
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gmplayer -playlist  shoutcast.pls
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Re: Daryna Fluxbox CE BETA 028 released.

Postby exploder on Sat Jan 05, 2008 9:14 am

merlwiz79 , I wondered why mplayer would not work with pls files, thanks for the explanation. Do you think the solution I came up with would be ok for the final release or do you think it would be better to try and edit the mplayer config file to get mplayer to work with shoutcast instead?

I am also finding out what clem meant in the release notes regarding the tools. if I run mintconfig from the menu I find that some of the tools do not work.

-Devices- "Xfce 4 mixer settings" will not start. "Xfce Printing System Settings" will not start.

-Networking- "Sun Java 6 Policy Tool" will not start.

-Administration- "Mint Update" when I click on it it askes for the password and that's it...

All of these work from other places within the menu, just not from within mintconfig.
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Re: Daryna Fluxbox CE BETA 028 released.

Postby Husse on Sat Jan 05, 2008 9:23 am

Envy and the "Restricted manager" did not even start for me in mintConfig.
//Edit/Envy let me install the missing dependencies. These are not a bug, but a decision in the Standard Daryna edition to leave them out to make it fit on a CD//
At first thought it has to do with that I'm running it in Virtualbox and so I'm "borrowing" the video driver from my installed Daryna, but that is maybe not the case
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Re: Daryna Fluxbox CE BETA 028 released.

Postby exploder on Sat Jan 05, 2008 9:31 am

I can get "Envy" to start and it asks me if I want to install the missing dependency's.

I can not start "Restricted Drivers" from mintconfig, it will run from within the system section of the regular menu though.

So far I see two thing that really need attention.

1) -mintconfig- Should it be modified to work in the Fluxbox Edition or should something new be created to have a centralized control center in fluxbox?

2) -OpenOffice- is it meant to be a default package in the Fluxbox Edition? If it is intended to be included, the menu entry s need to be created in the office section of the menu and the splash and openabout need to be changed to the Mint ones. (This is easy to fix if it is intended to be a default app.)


mintconfig seems to be the hurdle to overcome because a centralized control center seems to be a topic in many reviews and we of course want the Fluxbox Edition to get favorable reviews and be at the top of the list for user's that want to run Fluxbox. I want to help Shane make the Fluxbox Edition the very best it can be and I hope that everyone feels this way.

Does anyone have any suggestions on mintconfig or making a centralized control center? I do not have any starting point for this and have no programming skills but I would be happy to work with anyone that has ideas or skill to accomplish this. Lets all help Shane make this flavor of Mint be the very best it can be!
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Re: Daryna Fluxbox CE BETA 028 released.

Postby EdwardsNH on Sat Jan 05, 2008 10:21 am

"I would guess you get the same with Ubuntu"

Actually... no. Just the Linux Mint versions. But your post gave me an idea, I played with the "other options", and was able to boot up. Thanks

This is my beater, so I tried to install, no luck. Might be a bad CD, or perhaps my drive is on its last legs.
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Re: Daryna Fluxbox CE BETA 028 released.

Postby VaMPiRiC_CRoW on Sat Jan 05, 2008 11:05 am

The best Fluxbox distro I have tried! :)

Very nice job!

It not recognized my pen disk, and after choose to restart the system it showed a blank screen without any info until restart...
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Re: Daryna Fluxbox CE BETA 028 released.

Postby mrB on Sat Jan 05, 2008 12:45 pm

All looks good, but why include gpaint over The Gimp?
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Re: Daryna Fluxbox CE BETA 028 released.

Postby npap on Sat Jan 05, 2008 1:15 pm

Xgamer wrote:I have problem with Daryna Fluxbox it doesn´t boot, that the linux kernel didn´t found :| Can you help me?


Hello Xgamer,
I had the same problem.
I burned two disks just to find out I had a bad ISO download. Did you check the MD5 sum in your Iso?
My bad download was 517Mbytes. :o The right download should read 513MB.
My second Iso was good. Now I am testing Fluxbox :)

Good luck,
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Re: Daryna Fluxbox CE BETA 028 released.

Postby SoDak on Sat Jan 05, 2008 1:49 pm

I just wanted to say "Thank You". I have been looking for a distribution with a good, easy-to-use Fluxbox for a long time. This is it. Next to flawless on my MacBook. Keep up the great work!
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Re: Daryna Fluxbox CE BETA 028 released.

Postby wubuntu on Sat Jan 05, 2008 2:11 pm

Hi,

can I install the MintFluxbox Edition with all features from the Repos?
I mean, additionally to my GNOME-Desktop?

Thanx and Greetings

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Re: Daryna Fluxbox CE BETA 028 released.

Postby exploder on Sat Jan 05, 2008 4:37 pm

wubuntu , I do not think it is possible right now to install the Fluxbox Edition in this fashion. You could install the beta as another os along side the main edition.
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Re: Daryna Fluxbox CE BETA 028 released.

Postby clem on Sat Jan 05, 2008 9:34 pm

Hi,

Just a quick note: Release notes are always written by the maintainer of the edition. So the ones for this edition were written by Shane.

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Re: Daryna Fluxbox CE BETA 028 released.

Postby exploder on Sat Jan 05, 2008 9:35 pm

Something else that might need looked at. In Firefox, Bookmarks, there is a folder called "About XFCE CE", some of the information in "Extra Information" is applicable to installed packages but this could be misunderstood by someone that is new to Fluxbox.
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Re: Daryna Fluxbox CE BETA 028 released.

Postby cocozsdo on Sun Jan 06, 2008 3:55 am

Xgamer wrote:I have problem with Daryna Fluxbox it doesn´t boot, that the linux kernel didn´t found :| Can you help me?

me too.
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Re: Daryna Fluxbox CE BETA 028 released.

Postby npap on Sun Jan 06, 2008 6:31 am

Hello and welcome cocozsdo.
Read the thread below on this subject. It may be your problem too.

viewtopic.php?f=17&t=8248&p=51631#p51631
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Re: Daryna Fluxbox CE BETA 028 released.

Postby shane on Sun Jan 06, 2008 7:49 am

HI all! thanks for the interest and support you are all giving to Mint FB

I just want to make a short recap of things that need attending to, known bugs and the like... If you have read my other post you will know that I am on holiday and so I wont be doing any substantial work on this Beta... So if ou have a fix for a problem please let us know... it will make the fixing faster once i do get around to working on Mint FB.

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1) The bad launchers in mintConfig. As far as I know mintConfig uses the .desktop files located in /usr/share/applications to create the launchers in it. and this is where the problem lies... either the launchers installed by the various tools are broken or removing of a certain tool has left an undeleted launcher pointing to a tool that has been removed...

As a side note... I am ot a programmer, I am dependent heavily on Mint XFCE's tools... If anybody can write a set of tools specifically for Mint FB that would be the best case scenario... using light libraries or ones already present would be vital.

2) I will have to fix the persisting user 'mint' after install... i didnt notice this... i will look into this.

3) Is anyone else getting OpenOffice in the menus? I did remove it and stuck to Abiword and Gnumeric. Please let me know... because this should be fixed.

4) Mplayer. This has not been one of the better parts of this Beta. Mplayer does try to prevent Gnome Screensaver from kicking in... but it is not on the system and so gives the error mentioned earlier... this does not affect playback though. Mint FB is using X Screensaver instead.

I personally prefer VLC as a video player over Mplayer. However, I did decide on Mplayer because it seems more widely used as Firefox's media player... and I really wanted one or the other... not both.

If anyone can, can you please test VLC as the default media player for local media files, streaming files and media embedded in web pages. On an old machine on which i tested Mint FB, Mplayer wouldn't display the media properly in fullscreen mode. It would take over the screen but the media would be displayed in the original resolution...

We need a reliable default video player. For an audio player I would have gone with Audacious but Exaile provides the library funtionality which I think is important in any modern audio player.

5) Why Gpaint over GIMP? this decision was made to reduce the size of the ISO image file and make Mint FB more compatible with older machines (GIMP does require a healthy serving of RAM... Firefox and Thunderbird too... but I think these are too essential to make room for compromise...) However, let us know if you think GIMP is worth the extra weight... nothing is set in stone :D

6) There seems to be a few people with ISOs that do not work... Please check the md5sum and confirm that the ISO image you have is without errors... If it is, and you are still having the same problem... well, we have a big problem then :P

7) Firefox Bookmarks. I shall look into that... The first thing I do in FF is remove the Bookmarks toolbar.. so I didnt notice the XFCE links...

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OK that was my recap of the problems discovered so far... If I have missed anything out please add to the list.

My parents here have an old AMD Duron 600MHz machine here... with 128MB RAM which they don't use. A chance to install Mint FB on such an antique was not to be missed... so thats what I did yesterday :D It wasn't without its hassles... Booting up in Live CD mode filled up the RAM completely. I found this strange as on my machine Mint FB didn't use up 128MB at startup! How much does it use on your machines?

Anyway, single user mode, creating a swap partition and closing unnecessary applications (Network Manager and mintUpdate) got Ubiquity running decently... I did take quite a while but it installed just fine... This got me thinking of an alternate CD without Live CD capabilities... we are aiming for lower end hardware afterall...

After installation, Everything seems to be working like clockwork except for the Mplayer issue with fullscreen I mentioned earlier...

OK I'll end here... Keep testing and keep the feedback coming! I'll be watching this space :D
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Re: Daryna Fluxbox CE BETA 028 released.

Postby Husse on Sun Jan 06, 2008 8:12 am

Open office
There are "tons" of open office files. As I did not see it in the menus I did "sudo updatedb" followed by "locate -i openoffice" and the number of files it found was overwhelming
So if Oo is not supposed to be there you can gain much space by deleting these files
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