Daryna Fluxbox CE BETA 028 released.

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Re: Daryna Fluxbox CE BETA 028 released.

Postby exploder on Sun Jan 06, 2008 10:33 am

Shane, thanks for the update!

1) The tools are a problem, they seem to work fine from the shortcuts in the fluxbox menu. I used Catfish to find all of the files for mintconfig but could not figure out what to change to get things working.I am not a programmer either. (Catfish sure is fast for finding files!)

2) The mint user is just an empty folder. I am not sure how it was left behind.

3) If you watch the install you can see all of the OpenOffice packages being installed. Removing OpenOffice will gain you a lot of space.The one OpenOffice shortcut is in the Auto-generated Menu/ Applications/ Office/ OpenOffice.org Writer

4) The error when starting MPlayer does not affect playback like you said, I tried to figure out how to get rid of the error but have not been able to solve it yet. Your idea about VLC sounds good, it is just as popular. Another problem is playing Shoutcast, MPlayer will not work for .pls files and .pls did not even show up in Firefox. I installed Xmms and it plays Shoutcast and .pls showed up in Firefox. I do not know if you are interested in Xmms and your idea about using VLC might solve both of these problems.

5) I uderstand your decision to use GPaint. Gimp does use a lot of RAM and could be added by a user that has the RAM for it after the install.

6) The ISO problem may be inherited from the Ubuntu base.

7) The Firefox Bookmarks looks like an easy fix.

Your idea about an alternate install disk sounds interesting, this would be of great help to people that have low end hardware. The fact that you were able to install the Fluxbox Edition on a Duron 600 system sound very encouraging!

Thanks for your responce to the bugs found, it looks like you have some good ideas for resolving the problems. The only major hurdle I can see is the tools.

I have to compliment you on the quality of the beta, this is by far one of the best looking Fluxbox based editions I have ever seen. (I have tried them all!) Your choice of applications is the best as well. Catfish impressed me with how quickly it finds files, it is by far the best search tool I have tried! The desktop shortcut is handy! When I download something to the desktop I can quickly get to it. I am not a fan of shortcuts on the desktop but this one is essential in my opinion, very nice! All of the applications maintain the same type of look and launch quick, with the exception of Firefox and Thunderbird. Firefox is the most functional browser, there really is nothing lighter that is as capable. Giving Conky a Minty look and using a Fluxbox logo in the GDM theme was a nice touch and shows attention to details! I look forward to the finished Fluxbox Edition!
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Re: Daryna Fluxbox CE BETA 028 released.

Postby mrB on Sun Jan 06, 2008 10:36 am

I really think The Gimp should be included :D ; I consider it, just like firefox (and why does this little bugger take so much RAM?), as one of the gems of open source!
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Re: Daryna Fluxbox CE BETA 028 released.

Postby Husse on Sun Jan 06, 2008 2:25 pm

When I start the Fusesmb tool I get a message
"Unable to read ~/.smb/fusesmbtool.conf" and after that it opened
I also found you need sudo for shutdown it's not "wrong" but unexpected
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Re: Daryna Fluxbox CE BETA 028 released.

Postby exploder on Sun Jan 06, 2008 5:09 pm

I installed VLC and it will work for Shoutcast .pls files and plays DVD movies with no problems or errors. Xmms is not needed but removing MPlayer in favor of VLC made a real mess out of things. When I tried removing MPlayer it took away most of the ability to edit file types in Firefox. What do you think of leaving MPlayer installed and set as the default for QT files so that Apple Movie Trailers use it, set VLC as the default for .PLS files and change the shortcut in the Fluxbox Menu for Movie Player so that VLC is used? This is the only way I have found so far to get all media types to work. This of course will need testing with other file types.

I removed OpenOffice and at first it seemed to make a real mess of things. Packages showed up in "Auto Removable" in Synaptic but after cleaning things up my system seems to have not suffered any ill effects.

I should have checked my disk space space before I made all of the changes but I believe I have 21 megs more free space than when I started making the changes.

If anyone knows how to remove MPlayer and get VLC to play all media types please post how. I do not know if my solution is the way to go. It does work though.
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Re: Daryna Fluxbox CE BETA 028 released.

Postby merlwiz79 on Sun Jan 06, 2008 5:44 pm

Husse wrote:When I start the Fusesmb tool I get a message
"Unable to read ~/.smb/fusesmbtool.conf" and after that it opened
I also found you need sudo for shutdown it's not "wrong" but unexpected
Here this should help.
Setting User Privileges to use FuseSMBtool:
  1. Open Users and Groups from the menu.
  2. Double Click the User Name that is used to login.
  3. Click User Privileges.
  4. Check the box next to Allow use of fuse filesystems like LTSP Thin Client block devices.
  5. Click OK and Close Users Settings.
  6. Now restart the system.
Error messages:
Unable to read fusesmbtool.conf
  • This is the first time running the program and this file has not be created yet.
  • This file was deleted or renamed.
  • The Permissions was changed to the .smb folder or the fusesmbtool.conf file.
failed to exec fusermount: Permission denied
  • The User Privileges has not been set, see Setting User Privileges to use FuseSMBtool .
mountpoint is not empty
  • FuseSMBtool does not allow the mountpoint to have any files in it, move these file to connect the mountpoint.
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Re: Daryna Fluxbox CE BETA 028 released.

Postby Husse on Sun Jan 06, 2008 6:32 pm

Thansk merlwiz for helping out, shane will shurely appreciate any help.
The fusesmb error message is there all the time, but I have not configured anything
Reading the explanation you provide it might be unavoidable, but could perhaps be changed
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Re: Daryna Fluxbox CE BETA 028 released.

Postby exploder on Sun Jan 06, 2008 7:49 pm

Almost forgot this one! Conky's position needs to changed to the other side of the desktop because of the Desktop icon.

I keep looking at mintconfig, 5 apps in it will not launch and the " Custom" section will not be functional in Fluxbox as far as I can tell. All of the programs that are in mintconfig will run from the Fluxbox menu entries. Any ideas?
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Re: Daryna Fluxbox CE BETA 028 released.

Postby merlwiz79 on Sun Jan 06, 2008 11:49 pm

exploder wrote:merlwiz79 , I wondered why mplayer would not work with pls files, thanks for the explanation. Do you think the solution I came up with would be ok for the final release or do you think it would be better to try and edit the mplayer config file to get mplayer to work with shoutcast instead?

I am also finding out what clem meant in the release notes regarding the tools. if I run mintconfig from the menu I find that some of the tools do not work.

-Devices- "Xfce 4 mixer settings" will not start. "Xfce Printing System Settings" will not start.

-Networking- "Sun Java 6 Policy Tool" will not start.

-Administration- "Mint Update" when I click on it it askes for the password and that's it...

All of these work from other places within the menu, just not from within mintconfig.

Xfce 4 mixer settings and Xfce Printing System Settings fix:
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sudo apt install xfce4-mcs-manager

Sun Java 6 Policy Tool fix:
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sudo rm /usr/share/applications/sun-java6-policytool.desktop
sudo ln /usr/share/control-center-2.0/capplets/sun-java6-policytool.desktop /usr/share/applications/sun-java6-policytool.desktop

mintUpdate runs if it isn't already running, if it is running it switches to root mode.
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Re: Daryna Fluxbox CE BETA 028 released.

Postby molom on Mon Jan 07, 2008 2:32 am

This Fluxbox edition is really good, it seems to be way better than Fluxbuntu.
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Re: Daryna Fluxbox CE BETA 028 released.

Postby molom on Mon Jan 07, 2008 2:33 am

Can we also make Linux Mint Daryna Openbox CE and Linux Mint Daryna Blackbox CE ;)
I think we have just about finished are DE editions, so far we are making or already have:
- Linux Mint KDE
- Linux Mint Gnome
- Linux Mint XFCE
- Linux Mint Fluxbox
- Linux Mint E17
I think thats all be really need. We have two eyecandy DE's (KDE and E17) and three light DE's (XFCE, Fluxbox and E17) and a main DE (Gnome).

Does anyone think that there should be another Linux Mint DE CE?

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Re: Daryna Fluxbox CE BETA 028 released.

Postby merlwiz79 on Mon Jan 07, 2008 3:06 am

merlwiz79 wrote:
exploder wrote:merlwiz79 , I wondered why mplayer would not work with pls files, thanks for the explanation. Do you think the solution I came up with would be ok for the final release or do you think it would be better to try and edit the mplayer config file to get mplayer to work with shoutcast instead?

I am also finding out what clem meant in the release notes regarding the tools. if I run mintconfig from the menu I find that some of the tools do not work.

-Devices- "Xfce 4 mixer settings" will not start. "Xfce Printing System Settings" will not start.

-Networking- "Sun Java 6 Policy Tool" will not start.

-Administration- "Mint Update" when I click on it it askes for the password and that's it...

All of these work from other places within the menu, just not from within mintconfig.

Better Fix:
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sudo apt purge mintdesktop-xfce mintconfig-xfce

Now download and install:
mintdesktop-flbx
http://www.4shared.com/file/34102770/61 ... _i386.html
mintconfig-flbx
http://www.4shared.com/file/34101982/71 ... 1_all.html
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Re: Daryna Fluxbox CE BETA 028 released.

Postby exploder on Mon Jan 07, 2008 5:35 am

merlwiz79, you amaze me! Mintconfig works perfectly now! Shane is going to like this! Absolutely awesome work!

The additions to the Desktop section really make mintconfig complete. Again, absolutely fantastic work! Your skill and effort have made a big difference!
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Re: Daryna Fluxbox CE BETA 028 released.

Postby mandog on Mon Jan 07, 2008 2:14 pm

This is far superior to any other as far as 7.10 is concerned and a real good effort. I used it for a couple of hours as a full setup no major problems apart from conkys as already mentioned. makes a good base for E17.
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Re: Daryna Fluxbox CE BETA 028 released.

Postby klaeje on Tue Jan 08, 2008 5:34 am

Hey,

I am really new with fluxbox, and i still discover this distro! :D
its running as a dualboot with cassandra on my pIII with 385ram and is really fast!
when i want to use fluxmenu(is easy for me) not everyting works and after some time my comp freezes! :oops:
before i have no prob.
how can i put this right or back.
or is there, or in the future a manual for fluxbox mint because i'm new with this, and i want fluxbox mint to be my
only distro!

Thx Klaeje
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Re: Daryna Fluxbox CE BETA 028 released.

Postby exploder on Wed Jan 09, 2008 5:50 am

If anyone wants to move Conky because of the Desktop icon, here is how to do it.

Open Home from the Fluxbox menu.

Click on "View" and put a check in "Show Hidden Files".

Double click on the .conkyrc file to open it.

You will see these lines in the file.

# Text alignment, other possible values are commented
alignment top_left
#alignment top_right
#alignment bottom_left
#alignment bottom_right

Change the lines to this.

# Text alignment, other possible values are commented
#alignment top_left
alignment top_right
#alignment bottom_left
#alignment bottom_right

Save and close the file.

Now Conky will be on the other side of the screen away from the "Desktop" icon. You can of course place Conky on the bottom left or right of your screen if you want.
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Re: Daryna Fluxbox CE BETA 028 released.

Postby xsak on Wed Jan 09, 2008 9:49 am

A tiny suggestion: As this is a "light" version, I think gdm login manager should be replaced by slim (http://slim.berlios.de).
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New user problem

Postby glenn69 on Wed Jan 09, 2008 10:26 pm

Looks nice.

I have one problem. I have created a few new users. When i log into the new user, I cannot access the menu by right clicking on the desktop. No response to left, right, or middle click anywhere. Also, none of the Mint "things" seem to be active....ex the desktop icon, the update manager in bottom right, etc..

The problem is exclusive to created users, as my main login functions fine. Just a guess, but is there a script or something that is not loading for the new users?

Thanks for your efforts.
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Re: New user problem

Postby merlwiz79 on Thu Jan 10, 2008 1:20 am

glenn69 wrote:Looks nice.

I have one problem. I have created a few new users. When i log into the new user, I cannot access the menu by right clicking on the desktop. No response to left, right, or middle click anywhere. Also, none of the Mint "things" seem to be active....ex the desktop icon, the update manager in bottom right, etc..

The problem is exclusive to created users, as my main login functions fine. Just a guess, but is there a script or something that is not loading for the new users?

Thanks for your efforts.

That's weird, I just tested with the Live CD and it worked fine.
I wrote the original script for Fluxbox, it adds all the defaults to the new user and it uses gdm to do it.
/etc/gdm/PostLogin/Default should have the line:
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/usr/lib/linuxmint/fluxmintdefaults/fluxmint.sh

Did you change anything?

If you need to get it to work, copy the .fluxbox, .idesktop and .tilda directories to the new users.
Then copy these files:
.conkyrc
.fehbg
.fehrc
.gtkrc-2.0
.ideskrc
.xsession
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Re: Daryna Fluxbox CE BETA 028 released.

Postby merlwiz79 on Thu Jan 10, 2008 3:18 am

Fro those who want transparency try this.(xcompmgr is in Package Manager)
http://fluxbox-wiki.org/index.php/Transparency
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Re: Daryna Fluxbox CE BETA 028 released.

Postby molom on Thu Jan 10, 2008 8:52 pm

xsak wrote:A tiny suggestion: As this is a "light" version, I think gdm login manager should be replaced by slim (http://slim.berlios.de).


I think this should be used instead if it saves a decent amount of mb's and is faster.

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