Linux Mint 5 Elyssa RC2 (BETA 048) is out!

[skrotten]

I right click on my screen and then i click on change background image and when i then chose an background it wont work. I have to click many times before it work.
It work fine before then i just had to click once and then the background image was change.

In Ubuntu it don`t work there either

Anybody else have this trouble?

And by the way i am from Norway and my English is not so god so i am sorry if i wrote some wrong.

And to the last i have to thank for this very god work they have don with this release of Linux Mint. I love it.


Morten

[Zwopper]

I right click on my screen and then i click on change background image and when i then chose an background it wont work. I have to click many times before it work.
It work fine before then i just had to click once and then the background image was change.

Anybody else have this trouble?
And by the way i am from Norway and my English is not so god so i am sorry if i wrote some wrong.
And to the last i have to thank for this very god work they have don with this release of Linux Mint. I love it.


Morten

I have the same problem, it used to work fine, but now it doesn't!



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Heja Norge! - Ha det kjempegrejt i sommar!

[skrotten]

I right click on my screen and then i click on change background image and when i then chose an background it wont work. I have to click many times before it work.
It work fine before then i just had to click once and then the background image was change.

Anybody else have this trouble?
And by the way i am from Norway and my English is not so god so i am sorry if i wrote some wrong.
And to the last i have to thank for this very god work they have don with this release of Linux Mint. I love it.


Morten

I have the same problem, it used to work fine, but now it doesn't!



//////OT////////
Heja Norge! - Ha det kjempegrejt i sommar!

I tried in Ubuntu, Same it wont work.

God sommer til alle dere i Sverige

[akshunj]

I know that the 2.6.24 kernel is doing some problems to people.
and as I understand, the point release of Ubuntu Hardy will change it to 2.6.25 -
any ideas as to what is the policy here?

After a week of testing, I've got kernel issues also. Laptop won't suspend at all. Sometimes it won't boot. Just a freeze in the first few seconds and I have to manually power cycle it. I tried to upgrade to 2.6.25, but that was equally a mess. I ended up with no wireless, and no pulseaudio. <sigh> I hope we have access to the new kernel with the Ubuntu point release...

--Akshun J

[ed@Mint]

I found a tiny "bug" in mintUpdate.

In the german localization it says "Es sindN empfohlene Updates verfügbar". (N being the number of Updates currently available). Notice: There's one space missing between "sind" and the number.

You can correct this here

[hgoertzen]

Hello
Will you be able to fix your printer system in Elyssa so that a Brother MFC 230C will work. As yet it does bot work in Hardy or Hardy KDE or Elyssa but it does work in Daryna all except for the Scanner cant get that to work yet (probably my fault for that)
Herb
hgoertzen@sunwave.net

[clem]

Note: Don't take the package upgrades that have to do with Gnome (this causes a regression and you won't be able to change the wallpaper anymore). Also, the upgrades on GDM don't fix the known GDM issues (network manager error messages on shutdown, long first time launch, weird theme selection). As always, I would recommend everybody to stay away from package upgrades unless they're given a level 1 or 2.

This problem with Gnome actually delayed me today and although I've got an ISO ready which I'm happy with it looks like we might be releasing on Monday. Exploder is busy at the moment and I won't be working on Mint this Saturday...

FF3 RC2 won't make it in final. It will come as a level 2 upgrade, when ready.

One of the major bug fix in Elyssa final will be the fact that when Flash crashes, Firefox won't. By simply reloading the page, Flash will work again. We're still looking at FF3 RC1 and Flash 10 beta, but wrapped within nspluginwrapper.

Clem.

[DaddyX3]

Hello all! Have a silly question for you .... Is Elyssa 5 32 or 64-bit? I'm "ass-u-me'ing that it is 32-bit. If so, is there any interest with this community to do a 64-bit version? I have been using Hardy 8.04 64-bit since it was released and I do notice a nice performance gain (I'm triple booting between Hardy 32, Hardy 64, Ultimate Edition 1.8 64-bit [don't shoot me, please ]).

[Zero Prime]

Hello all! Have a silly question for you .... Is Elyssa 5 32 or 64-bit? I'm "ass-u-me'ing that it is 32-bit. If so, is there any interest with this community to do a 64-bit version? I have been using Hardy 8.04 64-bit since it was released and I do notice a nice performance gain (I'm triple booting between Hardy 32, Hardy 64, Ultimate Edition 1.8 64-bit [don't shoot me, please ]).

Whats up Daddy? Yes, there are plans for a 64bit edition. You know, you could have asked me that at the other house

[AK Dave]

confused! Clem! I love you man! You're beautiful, you know that?

Installed 048 on my laptop. Never has powersave worked on this laptop with linux "out of the box". Always its jumping through one hoop or another, restricted video drivers, kpowersave, some dumb crap like that. Why can't it just work?

048 - it just works.

I had no faith that it would work. Hmm, lets hit shutdown, what the heck I have a few spare minutes to force a recover from a locked screen when the laptop won't come back from suspend for the umpteenth time. Sure, lets do it. Suspend. Wait. Power-up. Full recovery.

Unfortunately, hibernate throws an error that I wasn't fast enough or prepared enough to catch. But nevertheless, it still works. Select Elyssa from the grubmenu and I'm presented with a password prompt and I'm right back to the same desktop I just left.

Attention to detail, Clem. You're my hero.

[mcurran]

Individual file download progress bars are not colored in on mintUpdate. They're just white, instead of having blue fill showing on the progress side/half/whatever. Sorry if this should go somewhere else, I don't care about this and am just tryin' to help out the distro., is there a bug report collection area for the BETA's?

[macav]

hi there,
i don't know if there's anything you can do about it, but i'll try
i have msi l720 laptop with rt61 wireless card, out of box my wifi couldn't connect WPA network
i found out, that after installing linux-backports-modules it worked
i was just wondering if there's anything to do with it so it can work out of box
thx

[AK Dave]

It appears, from surfing ubuntuforums, that part of the rt61 problem may be that the chipset doesn't properly identify itself. Use lspci or lsusb as appropriate and see what it says for your rt61. It will probably say something like "Network controller: RaLink: Unknown device 0302". I don't know how you can expect a default hardware installer script to know what to do with hardware that doesn't properly identify itself.

Here's a related ubuntu thread. Your rt61 appears to be a known issue with the rt61:
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=132980

From the end of that thread it appears that the rt61, in some cases, works just fine on fresh install but if you read carefully the people who say "everything works fine" are using WEP not WPA. Which is your problem.

[macav]

It appears, from surfing ubuntuforums, that part of the rt61 problem may be that the chipset doesn't properly identify itself. Use lspci or lsusb as appropriate and see what it says for your rt61. It will probably say something like "Network controller: RaLink: Unknown device 0302". I don't know how you can expect a default hardware installer script to know what to do with hardware that doesn't properly identify itself.

Here's a related ubuntu thread. Your rt61 appears to be a known issue with the rt61:
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=132980

From the end of that thread it appears that the rt61, in some cases, works just fine on fresh install but if you read carefully the people who say "everything works fine" are using WEP not WPA. Which is your problem.

well, I just booted up with livecd to check whether you're right.. I found out that my controller was identified correctly, it says Network controller: RaLink RT2561/RT61 rev B 802.11g
so i assume i can expect a default hardware script to know what to do, but it doesn't do it.
I don't know what exactly is installed by installing the package linux-backports-modules, but isn't it possible to get that driver from it a put it to system by default?
with that package, my wifi works flawlessly, it would be nice, if it worked out of box
I tried rt61 drivers from serialmonkey, but they didn't work, only things that helped was installing this backports package and I found it out by accident (luckily)

[AK Dave]

If the device is identifying itself properly, then it may be that MintWiFi isn't packaged with the driver you need. There can be many reasons for this. The backports package, in general, is a way to allow "older" base systems to use features or software intended for "newer" base systems. In this case, the backport may be necessary because of dependancy issues or kernel version. Mint (and Ubuntu) do not use, across the board, the bleeding edge versions of all software. I really don't know why the driver you need is in backports instead of the core distro, but what usually seems to happen is that stuff from backports eventually rolls up into the core distro over time.

[macav]

If the device is identifying itself properly, then it may be that MintWiFi isn't packaged with the driver you need. There can be many reasons for this. The backports package, in general, is a way to allow "older" base systems to use features or software intended for "newer" base systems. In this case, the backport may be necessary because of dependancy issues or kernel version. Mint (and Ubuntu) do not use, across the board, the bleeding edge versions of all software. I really don't know why the driver you need is in backports instead of the core distro, but what usually seems to happen is that stuff from backports eventually rolls up into the core distro over time.

it would be nice if that would be part of the core someday..
another curious thing is that in ubuntu 7.10 it worked out of box without any problem and without any need of installing some backports, but with 8.04 they screwed something up with that driver, or maybe it's because newer version of kernel.. i don't know.. i was little bit disappointed when i found out my wireless is not working, but at least there is a way how to make it work .. but in my opinion it could be easier to find out that installing the package linux-backports-modules can help with the wireless (maybe put it in some FAQ or something like that), i don't think i'm the only one with this issue

[AK Dave]

I'm sure you're not the only one with the problem. Hardy messed a lot of people up, when Gutsy was working fine. Sounds like they had a good old-fashioned regression. Mint's close tie with Ubuntu is probably why this problem exists in Mint also. It is also possible that this apparant regression was intentionally created due to some other problem not understood by either of us that is solved in this way. Sort of a "lesser of two evils" sort of thing. Regress rt61 support, fix something else more critical, and then roll up rt61 support with the 8.04.1 point upgrade. Its always easier and more tempting to blame incompetence for what may have been done intentionally.

[skrotten]

Note: Don't take the package upgrades that have to do with Gnome (this causes a regression and you won't be able to change the wallpaper anymore). Also, the upgrades on GDM don't fix the known GDM issues (network manager error messages on shutdown, long first time launch, weird theme selection). As always, I would recommend everybody to stay away from package upgrades unless they're given a level 1 or 2.

This problem with Gnome actually delayed me today and although I've got an ISO ready which I'm happy with it looks like we might be releasing on Monday. Exploder is busy at the moment and I won't be working on Mint this Saturday...

FF3 RC2 won't make it in final. It will come as a level 2 upgrade, when ready.

One of the major bug fix in Elyssa final will be the fact that when Flash crashes, Firefox won't. By simply reloading the page, Flash will work again. We're still looking at FF3 RC1 and Flash 10 beta, but wrapped within nspluginwrapper.

Clem.

I installed a fresh install an i only mark 1 and 2
Now all work fine. Is it safe only mark 1 and 2? or must i also mark 3 for safety?

[David Field]

Running the software, which geneally seems ok, however Evolution 2.22.2 which is the version currently running, doesn't have a complete set of fields for setting up access to an Exchange Server. I am allowed to enter the Exchange username, ut there are no fields for Server name etc or to authenticate the USername against the server.

[Catze]

I found a tiny "bug" in mintUpdate.

In the german localization it says "Es sindN empfohlene Updates verfügbar". (N being the number of Updates currently available). Notice: There's one space missing between "sind" and the number.

You can correct this here

I corrected the "Bug", and it should be ready to be included as an update:

[ Fixed german translation of mintUpdate ]