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Re: Linux Mint 5 Elyssa RC2 (BETA 048) is out!

Postby skrotten on Sat Jun 07, 2008 2:07 pm

Have you tried to updated the final width level 1-2 and 3 in mintupdate?
If you have don that can you tell us if all work god, i just wonder if they have fixed the bug in gnome?
viewtopic.php?f=17&t=12853&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&start=330#p82379
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Re: Linux Mint 5 Elyssa RC2 (BETA 048) is out!

Postby piratesmack on Sat Jun 07, 2008 2:26 pm

skrotten wrote:Have you tried to updated the final width level 1-2 and 3 in mintupdate?
If you have don that can you tell us if all work god, i just wonder if they have fixed the bug in gnome?
viewtopic.php?f=17&t=12853&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&start=330#p82379



Damn, yeah I updated with level 1, 2, and 3 updates and now I can't change the wallpaper.
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Re: Linux Mint 5 Elyssa RC2 (BETA 048) is out!

Postby skrotten on Sat Jun 07, 2008 2:32 pm

Is it safe just use level 1 and 2?

I think i just update level 1 and 2 and drop 3 so i don`t get any trouble.

Thank`s for that you answered so fast :D and i am sorry you get trouble.
But you help`t a lot of others.
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Re: Linux Mint 5 Elyssa RC2 (BETA 048) is out!

Postby piratesmack on Sat Jun 07, 2008 2:38 pm

skrotten wrote:Is it safe just use level 1 and 2?

I think i just update level 1 and 2 and drop 3 so i don`t get any trouble.

Thank`s for that you answered so fast :D and i am sorry you get trouble.
But you help`t a lot of others.



IDK I'm about to reinstall, only using level 1 and 2 updates and I'll see how it goes. But yeah it should be safe disabling level 3 updates, and probably a good idea since they haven't been tested yet

Does anyone know if this is the really the final release?

Flash seems to be running a lot more stable. Haven't had it crash on me yet
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Re: Linux Mint 5 Elyssa RC2 (BETA 048) is out!

Postby deadguy on Sat Jun 07, 2008 3:38 pm

personally, I install all levels of updates 1 thru 5 including kernel updates.
this can cause problems though, so I think the mint crew only recommends levels 1 thru 3 .
btw, I have Elyssa final installed (with the newest kernel) and she's running like a champ :D
no problems changing wallpaper here... but I enable ubuntu backports and proposed.

I'm pretty sure this is the final, Clem just hasn't made the announcement yet...

I love it!!!
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Re: Linux Mint 5 Elyssa RC2 (BETA 048) is out!

Postby piratesmack on Sat Jun 07, 2008 3:57 pm

deadguy wrote:personally, I install all levels of updates 1 thru 5 including kernel updates.
this can cause problems though, so I think the mint crew only recommends levels 1 thru 3 .
btw, I have Elyssa final installed (with the newest kernel) and she's running like a champ :D
no problems changing wallpaper here... but I enable ubuntu backports and proposed.

I'm pretty sure this is the final, Clem just hasn't made the announcement yet...

I love it!!!



hm just reinstalled and disabled level 3 updates, and realized all the available updates were level 3. I guess that's why they weren't already installed. Hm maybe one of the 4 or 5 level updates fixed the bug for you?

I'll just stick with level 1 and 2 to be on the safe side.

But yeah, LM 5 is awesome. Flash 10 doesn't crash no more! :D
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Re: Linux Mint 5 Elyssa RC2 (BETA 048) is out!

Postby Husse on Sat Jun 07, 2008 4:17 pm

personally, I install all levels of updates 1 thru 5 including kernel updates.

Which may get you in trouble sooner than you think - see this topic
viewtopic.php?f=17&t=13108
One computer just fine - another definitely lost wifi....
Which may be possible to get back after a lot of fiddling around
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Re: Linux Mint 5 Elyssa RC2 (BETA 048) is out!

Postby un2him on Sat Jun 07, 2008 5:24 pm

I just downloaded and installed what looks like the final mint 5. So far so good!
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Re: Linux Mint 5 Elyssa RC2 (BETA 048) is out!

Postby Calvin on Sat Jun 07, 2008 6:17 pm

You're awesome deadguy, but i'll wait for clem to announce it this time. but i will try out updating level 4 and 5 now, i hope nothing breaks lawl.
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Re: Linux Mint 5 Elyssa RC2 (BETA 048) is out!

Postby deadguy on Sat Jun 07, 2008 6:31 pm

Husse wrote:
personally, I install all levels of updates 1 thru 5 including kernel updates.

Which may get you in trouble sooner than you think - see this topic
viewtopic.php?f=17&t=13108
One computer just fine - another definitely lost wifi....
Which may be possible to get back after a lot of fiddling around



that's the thing with me....
I like fiddling around :D

but, your absolutely right Husse to tell folks to use caution,
especially if they don't like fixing problems that could arise....
I should have wrote it like this:
deadguy should have wrote:personally, I install all levels of updates 1 thru 5 including kernel updates but,I do so at my own risk!!
that is why Clem came up with this great tool called Mint update, so people know the risk factor involved with certain updates :D



and, if you do upgrade your kernel, you can always boot to the older kernel as well...


on my machine I had no problems at all but I don't have wifi :wink:
some day I'll get a laptop but it's the $$$ thing :cry:

anyway,
thanks for keeping my statements in check :oops:



cheers,

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Re: Linux Mint 5 Elyssa RC2 (BETA 048) is out!

Postby hotweiss on Sat Jun 07, 2008 9:33 pm

This is still broken in the final:

- open terminal
- type: sudo gconf-editor
- navigate to /apps/gnome-power-manager/locks
- disable lock_on_hibernate
- disable lock_on_suspend

Disabling those locks has no effect.
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Re: Linux Mint 5 Elyssa RC2 (BETA 048) is out!

Postby CatastrophicToad on Sun Jun 08, 2008 2:13 am

While the betas would boot about 50% of the time, LM5 final will not boot. When I delete "quiet splash" from the grub boot screen (to display the console messages during boot), this is the last thing it says:

Code: Select all
sd 2:0:0:0: [sdb] 488397168 512-byte hardware sectors (250059 MB)
sd 2:0:0:0: [sdb] Write Protect is off
sd 2:0:0:0: [sdb] Write cache: enabled, read cache: enabled, doesn't support DPO or FUA
 sdb: sdb1 sdb2 sdb3 < sdb5 >
sd 2:0:0:0: [sdb] Attached SCSI disk
sd 2:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg2 type 0
ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:00:0f.0[A] -> Link [APSJ] -> GSI 23 (level, low) -> IRQ 16
scsi4 : sata_nv
scsi5 : sata_nv
ata5: SATA max UDMA/133 cmd 0x9e0 ctl 0xbe0 bmdma 0xcc00 irq 16
ata6: SATA max UDMA/133 cmd 0x960 ctl 0xb60 bmdma 0xcc08 irq 16
ata5: SATA link down (SStatus 0 Scontrol 300)
ata6: SATA link down (SStatus 0 Scontrol 300)
done.
     Check root= bootarg cat /proc/cmdline
     or missing modules, devices: cat /proc modules ls /dev
ALERT! /dev/sda2 does not exist. Dropping to a shell!


BusyBox v1.1.3 (Debian 1:1.1.3-5ubuntu12) Built-in shell (ash)
Enter 'help' for a list of built-in commands.

(initramfs) _


It pauses for a while before displaying "done" and what comes after.

There is an SCSI and an SATA drive in the computer, and LM5 is installed on the SATA drive.


*EDIT:* ok I started messing around with stuff, and changing the boot option from ".../sda2" to ".../sdb2" made it work. I can edit the menu.lst file so it always does that. I wonder why it did that, a difference in the way the Ubuntu installer and GRUB names the disks/partitions? And how was it booting 50% of the time in the betas?
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Re: Linux Mint 5 Elyssa RC2 (BETA 048) is out!

Postby kanishka on Sun Jun 08, 2008 2:25 am

Wow, downloading it at 450Kb/s :shock:
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Re: Linux Mint 5 Elyssa RC2 (BETA 048) is out!

Postby Lantesh on Sun Jun 08, 2008 4:02 am

After installing Elyssa Stable I was careful when doing updates, and tried to skip any Gnome level 3 updates, but somehow still broke the wallpaper changer. So I said the hell with it and installed the rest of the updates. Then I started wondering how to fix it. This brings me to deadguy's post.

Thanks deadguy for the tip. I did exactly as you, and enabled the backports and proposed repositories. I then ran "sudo apt-get update", and "sudo apt-get upgrade". After words "sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list" once again to disable the backports and proposed repositories.

This absolutely fixed the wallpaper issue on my box. I can now change them as normal, and my CPU meter isn't spiking anymore when I have the "background" tab open. Be advised though if you choose to do this that there are about 75 or 80 packages that are going to upgrade. I have yet to see if anything else is now broken as a result. There were a ton of Gnome packages which upgraded, but I also noticed Open Office and a lot of other stuff. Time will tell if this was a mistake or not.

Edit: Just out of curiosity I just went into the Gnome Menu and clicked on "About Gnome". It now shows a build date of 6/3/2008. I don't know if that's American or British format. If it's American it's only 4 days old, and I'm pretty sure it is, because I looked at this same date after my initial install yesterday, and I think it was something like 5/30/2008.
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Re: Linux Mint 5 Elyssa RC2 (BETA 048) is out!

Postby CatastrophicToad on Sun Jun 08, 2008 6:40 am

Has anyone else had problems with the shutdown menu in LM5 final? On both of the computers I've installed it on, when clicking on "Quit", nothing happens, and the mouse still moves but is unable to click anything. With visual effects disabled, it still happens. If I press ctrl-alt-f2 etc and login, and go back to ctrl-alt-f7, sometimes it will be back to normal with the shutdown menu up, and sometimes it won't. Sometimes it will be a solid white box in the place of the shutdown menu, and clicking it in the places where the icons would be works. When there is no box at all, clicking anywhere won't do anything. This problem seems to happen every first time the "Quit" button is pressed during a session. After the first time, if by logging into the other screens I fix it, it works normally the way it should.

*EDIT*
Ok this happened because in Sessions I had disabled "Power Manager". Re-enabling it fixed the problem. So... don't disable "Power Manager" in Sessions.
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Re: Linux Mint 5 Elyssa RC2 (BETA 048) is out!

Postby ed@Mint on Sun Jun 08, 2008 7:05 am

Don't expect much help with this version.
Elyssa final is not available yet
It has not been announced officially, it is still about to change because it is still under testing.
You should all have waited for the official release, the system you are using is still considered a beta so, use it at your own risks.
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Re: Linux Mint 5 Elyssa RC2 (BETA 048) is out!

Postby simplicissimus on Sun Jun 08, 2008 7:33 am

Lantesh wrote:After installing Elyssa Stable [...]

CatastrophicToad wrote:Has anyone else had problems with the shutdown menu in LM5 final?

Why do you think that this version is the final and stable version?
I do not see any official informations or confirmations ... :?
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Re: Linux Mint 5 Elyssa RC2 (BETA 048) is out!

Postby rcdeacon on Sun Jun 08, 2008 7:35 am

As anxious as I am, I am still waiting. Hopefully tomorrow!
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Re: Linux Mint 5 Elyssa RC2 (BETA 048) is out!

Postby CatastrophicToad on Sun Jun 08, 2008 8:09 am

simplicissimus wrote:Why do you think that this version is the final and stable version?

I realize it isn't technically final, but it's probably pretty close, and I don't know what else to call it.

Also, something else: I've been doing things with Firefox and Flash that would sometimes crash the previous versions (LM 3, 3.1, 4, 5betas) I've used, and it has not crashed at all with the latest LM5 disk that came out, whatever you want to call it. What the hell? Developers: whatever you did to Flash, keep doing it! :D


edit so I don't have 2 sequential posts:
I found a solution to a problem I was having on an older computer where Java was running slow: I removed the Sun-Java plugin and installed the IcedTea one, and now it runs smoothly. (and also msttcorefonts to make the fonts in the games look nice)
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Re: Linux Mint 5 Elyssa RC2 (BETA 048) is out!

Postby bwjpg on Sun Jun 08, 2008 1:19 pm

Nonstopdrivel wrote:If I remove xforcevesa from the Linux Mint Compatibility Mode, I don't get the Out of Range error, but then I end up with the same nonfunctional Gnome login screen as before. I've burned a few different ISOs at very low speed; they've all given me the same problem.

I should add that with xforcevesa, the Out of Range error occurred immediately after the CUPS daemon was loaded, not after the hardware abstraction layer daemon as I stated previously.

If I could get my Dynex Wireless G USB adapter to work in Mint4, I would be content to stay there on that PC, but the documentation is so spotty that I can't seem to get anywhere with it. Even after I install the driver using Windows Wireless Drivers, the wireless connection never shows up in my Network Connections menu for me to configure. Very frustrating.


I have precisely the same issue. I burned Beta 048 along with Ubuntu Hardy Heron, Mandriva Spring 08 and Open Solaris on my brothers Core 2 (Intel integrated graphics) system - he has a really fast internet connection. Tried all the live CDs on his computer they all worked without a hitch apart from Open Solaris. Particularly pleased with how Beta 048 ran I want this OS.

Went home to my Athlon 64 system (Integrated ATI graphics) on my system Open Solaris and Mandriva worked fine but Ubuntu and Beta 048 both fell over the exact same way as described by Nonstopdrivel (looping log in screen, corrupted blank screen when you quit out - hey at least it lets you quit out).

I initially thought it was a dodgy CD-R issue so I tried again but identical issue arose with careful recordings on different media. Also thinking about it four different discs all randomly fouling up with an identical error doesn't strike me as being likely.

I've still got Bianca installed and realise that I really should upgrade but this issue has me stumped.

Forget about telling me the solution I'd be happy if someone told me what my actual problem was.

What could the issue be?
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