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Re: Linux Mint 5 Elyssa officially released!

Postby rcdeacon on Mon Jun 09, 2008 8:42 am

Just installed 5.0. So far so good. Thanks for all the hard work.
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Re: Linux Mint 5 Elyssa officially released!

Postby Tithis on Mon Jun 09, 2008 8:59 am

I did a completly clean install for this one and everything has worked fine so far. Firefox has yet to crash because of youtube, but I won't say its fixed until I go a week without it crashing. I did notice that occasionally youtube videos sound will play but no video will display, refreshing will always fix this.

So good job guys, looks like a good solid release.
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Re: Linux Mint 5 Elyssa officially released!

Postby Lim-Dul on Mon Jun 09, 2008 9:18 am

Awesome although I'm not sure what that means to me - I was using Elyssa RC2. =)

I followed the upgrade instructions on the homepage since I figured that RC2 might not be too different from the final version and everything went smoothly but using apt installed some level 4 and 5 updates (obviously)... I wonder if this will make my system unstable - I don't mean the odd glitch here and there but unstable as in "render unusable". ;-)
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Re: Linux Mint 5 Elyssa officially released!

Postby Guest on Mon Jun 09, 2008 9:37 am

Excellent work.

I specially like the new themes, bunch of applications, and that almost all of my hardware works from the box.
I expected a nicer main menu (a bit more color), and the possibility to resize it.
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Re: Linux Mint 5 Elyssa officially released!

Postby digital moonfish on Mon Jun 09, 2008 9:41 am

Image :P :P :P
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Re: Linux Mint 5 Elyssa officially released!

Postby Natwest on Mon Jun 09, 2008 10:14 am

Great work by Clem and all the team. I'm even stripping down a mint to use as a server distro.
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Re: Linux Mint 5 Elyssa officially released!

Postby Lim-Dul on Mon Jun 09, 2008 10:25 am

Ah - since one some "guest" already mentioned the "uncolorful" menu. I've read people complaining about the simplicity of the Mint theme in other reviews as well. I don't know what they're talking about - simplicity and elegance (remember the Mint motto? :-D) is the way to go. I've seen too many distros going down the "visual overload" path to the point where using the OS felt like playing a video game and new users, especially those coming from Windows, felt lost.
I mean - if you really want to customize your system then feel free to tweak the default theme (I sure did) but the basic distro should be as user-friendly and as possible - simple != simplistic. =)
I like the way Mint avoids the usual application overload without sacrificing any of the functionality as well. It's mostly one app per task by default, almost like the Zenwalk distro (which, by the way, doesn't even come close when it comes to the overall user-friendliness). Of course there's a plethora of application to choose from in the Ubuntu repos but it's your choice to install them.

I'm really, really impressed with Mint. This might be the first distro since a long time ago that will find its place on my desktop for more than a week. ^^
I'm already switching back to Windows only when I need to (e.g. to play games and translate something) because compared to Mint Vista (no surprise there) or even WinXP seem overly bloated. It's as if I were back in the happy days of Win2K with modern features. :-D
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Re: Linux Mint 5 Elyssa officially released!

Postby nyah on Mon Jun 09, 2008 10:44 am

i'm loving elyssa so far, but the headphone jack on my toshiba a135 still doesn't work. i've tried the fix that worked for me in daryna to no avail.
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Re: Linux Mint 5 Elyssa officially released!

Postby om121 on Mon Jun 09, 2008 11:22 am

MagnusB wrote:Better get on wget then :)
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Re: Linux Mint 5 Elyssa officially released!

Postby rhys on Mon Jun 09, 2008 11:24 am

I still cannot create additional users. It creates them but doesn't retain them once you exit the add users option. Is this a know bug?
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Re: Linux Mint 5 Elyssa officially released!

Postby Eladior on Mon Jun 09, 2008 11:40 am

Hello everyone this is my first time using Linux Mint and though i have only seen a few of its characteristics,i believe that it is a very good distribution.However i do have some problems(which are hightly likable to derive from my previous installation of Ubuntu 7.10 and later upgraded to 8.04).First problem(or bug) is that in the Syster monitor Screen it says Ubuntu Release 8.04(Hardy).Another problem is that when the visuals effects are set to on and i try alt+tab the screen behind the background reminds me of my older ubuntu background and finally again with visuals effects set to on the workspace switchers doesn't work but when there are no visual effects they work fine,finally my visual effects go automaticaly to custom everytime i set them on after having set to normal or high.


P.S Since this is my first post here,i don't know whether this category is the right one for the kind of post i have done so don't be mean :P
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Re: Linux Mint 5 Elyssa officially released!

Postby tawan on Mon Jun 09, 2008 12:30 pm

great work Clem and Co :D

BUGS: (sorry) can't change group with GUI and Gimp crashes with carbon theme

1) Admin > Users and Groups > (unlock) > Properties > Advanced > change group (i needed vboxusers)

bug = chosen value reverts each time

2) Using Carbon Theme > open Gimp > find anything with input boxes (some filters, the user prefs, resize image) > Gimp freezes

bug = gimp freezes when inputing a value when mint theme is set to Carbon

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But LOVE Elyssa (i think i love Clem) tweaks in the Mint Menu are great, and the rest too great great great :D
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Re: Linux Mint 5 Elyssa officially released!

Postby mosaias on Mon Jun 09, 2008 12:40 pm

Wonderful! I will be using Elyssa full time now.

But still, some problems with flash remained. Some flash pages don't open. Here how I fixed it: Uninstalled flash10 via synaptic, downloaded the last flash version from the Adobe official site and installed (/usr/lib/firefox-3.0, I guess). Everything is 110% perfect now.

Cheers!
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Re: Linux Mint 5 Elyssa officially released!

Postby Fergus on Mon Jun 09, 2008 1:30 pm

Clem and Linux Mint Team.

thank you so much! I have just finished upgrading from Bianca and let me tell you, this version is close to perfect!
I was so nervous that i was going to lose things in the upgrade. I remember when i first took the plunge with bianca, i was excited but little things bugged me. Things weren't quite as polished as i'd hoped they would be. On my upgrade journey everything has worked, i haven't had any problems at all yet. Everything i had installed before is working fine, the distro looks great now. It feels stable and with the help of a few apps i am certain this will break my windows dependency.

Thank for your hard work!
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Re: Linux Mint 5 Elyssa officially released!

Postby AK Dave on Mon Jun 09, 2008 2:23 pm

Lim-Dul wrote:I followed the upgrade instructions on the homepage since I figured that RC2 might not be too different from the final version and everything went smoothly but using apt installed some level 4 and 5 updates (obviously)... I wonder if this will make my system unstable - I don't mean the odd glitch here and there but unstable as in "render unusable". ;-)


This is what I did, roughly, and had no problems except as expected (documented bugs, not Mint's fault).

What I'd actually done was a CLI upgrade. I'd previously installed 048 and done some 1/2 updates. Then Sunday I followed the upgrade instructions from CLI with the difference that my sources.list was largely uncommented. Thus, backports and proposed and unstable were all available to me. I was planning that I'd need to do a clean install anyways, so worst case is I waste some bandwidth and brick my 048 install.

No bad karma. Everything went fine. Now running Elyssa with the -19 kernel and everything from proposed. Its like having Elyssa based on 8.04.1 instead of 8.04. The problems with this approach, as pointed out in the docs, are many. I need to go through my system very carefully looking for bugs and cannot blame Mint on anything I find. I noted OpenOffice upgraded to 2.4.1 and at the same time went from green to orange splash. I did lose my desktop background on reboot, put it back in place manually, and it appears to be sticky. I'm running the restricted fglrx for my ATI card but haven't run EnvyNG to install the proprietary ATI driver; nevertheless, Compiz enables fine and suspend/hibernate both work properly. I haven't tested for interference with video playback or with Impress/Powerpoint. In the past I only get dual monitor support on my laptop with proprietary ATI through the Catalyst control panel; I don't expect this has changed.

Flash works perfectly now for me. My kids and I killed 30min last night watching dumb stuff on YouTube with my laptop (Elyssa.proposed). I advise anyone with Flash problems to do this:
apt-get remove --purge flashplugin-nonfree libflashsupport
apt-get install libflashsupport
apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree

That worked for me. Cut-paste those lines from Clem's upgrade instructions. It may have worked so well for me because my sources.list has very few ## lines in it.

My overall initial impression of Elyssa is that it boots to the login faster than Daryna, but Daryna-KDE gets to the desktop faster. Profiling and tweaking writeback should help Elyssa. Tweaking Sessions should help Elyssa. Elyssa is crisper once on the desktop than was Daryna, but not crisper than Daryna-KDE although Elyssa launchs OpenOffice faster than Daryna-KDE (OO 2.4.1 vs OO 2.3, so not direct comparison). FF3 on Elyssa launches slower than FF2 on Daryna-KDE; this may be due to profiling/writeback tweaks. Once I sniff the bugs in my nonstandard install, I'll know if I need to do a clean install. I'm treating this system as "Elyssa.proposed" rather than "Elyssa.stable" due to the -19 kernel and some 3/4/5 level updates, so YMMV and I won't be complaining here when I stub my toe on something.

I don't advise following my upgrade path unless you 1) know what you're doing 2) are prepared to do a clean install 3) have good backups and 4) have another bootable partition as a safety net.
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Re: Linux Mint 5 Elyssa officially released!

Postby AK Dave on Mon Jun 09, 2008 2:29 pm

carbon_unit wrote:I am still running Daryna and I have a separate / and /home partitions. Can I install without formatting the /home partition or will it cause problems?


As said before, 90% likely this will work fine with only deleting some config directories.

I suggest that you run mintbackup, delete the existing config directories (hidden .something folders) from the LiveCD prior to install, and then install with the installer pointed to the / and /home directories you want. Selectively restore the config directories (hidden .something folders). Mintbackup is pretty smart about what you really need to backup (usually just enough to save email and browser favorites).
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Re: Linux Mint 5 Elyssa officially released!

Postby Ookami on Mon Jun 09, 2008 2:37 pm

Better get to work installing this beast, then.
Having had hardly any problems with the last two Betas, I doubt I have anything to worry about. Save from having to change the wallpaper for the third time in a few weeks :o

I blame the Mint team for making the release of Elyssa go so smoothly. Why no delays, or some glorious incompetence? :|
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Re: Linux Mint 5 Elyssa officially released!

Postby AK Dave on Mon Jun 09, 2008 2:40 pm

If your 048 is running smooth, try and internal upgrade following Clem's instructions. Worst case = you do a clean install later anyways.
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Re: Linux Mint 5 Elyssa officially released!

Postby Nickpick on Mon Jun 09, 2008 2:49 pm

Stupid question: Is there any place I can read on how to install it over Daryna?

EDIT: Got it! Thanks everybody!
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Re: Linux Mint 5 Elyssa officially released!

Postby un2him on Mon Jun 09, 2008 3:28 pm

I love this distro. I echo many of the comments saying it is the best distro ever.

One thing I would really love is if there was a keyboard shortcut to open the Mint Menu. The addition of gnome-do is fantastic, I am really dependent on it now. Because I am able to do so many things now just using the keyboard, I find it actually disruptive to switch to a mouse just to click on the Mint Menu icon.

This isn't meant to sound nitpicky, I'm just letting you know what for me would make this great distro even better, IMO.

Thanks to the whole team!
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