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Re: Linux Mint 11 "Katya" RC released!

Postby sminterz on Wed May 11, 2011 2:23 pm

AlbertP wrote:Ok, I'll try that. Should I use the 'Mint 10' or the 'Ubuntu 11.04' option?

Edit. Using the Mint 10 option in Unetbootin, it fails to boot: invalid or corrupt kernel image. I've tried many times, checked the md5sum, verified the file with Transmission, and still it fails.

I am going to try burning it on a DVD (have just gotten some dvd+rw's that I can erase in case it fails).


?? i just selected the iso, pressed ok and relaxed :) no need to specify the distro (but i would guess 11.04 would be a better bet)
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Re: Linux Mint 11 "Katya" RC released!

Postby AlbertP on Wed May 11, 2011 2:40 pm

Ohh, can you also run it without selecting a distro and version? I'll try it when I've finished my homework.
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Re: Linux Mint 11 "Katya" RC released!

Postby karashata on Wed May 11, 2011 3:08 pm

AlbertP wrote:Ohh, can you also run it without selecting a distro and version? I'll try it when I've finished my homework.

I'm pretty sure you only need to select the distro you want to install if you haven't already downloaded an ISO, since I believe that will download the ISO for you then install it to your USB drive.
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Re: Linux Mint 11 "Katya" RC released!

Postby t3g on Wed May 11, 2011 3:27 pm

Do we still really need 3 media players by default with Gnome Mplayer, Totem, and VLC? Why not just stick with VLC for the default?
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Re: Linux Mint 11 "Katya" RC released!

Postby willie42 on Wed May 11, 2011 3:31 pm

It gives you a choice. you can remove them by going into the software manger and removing them :D
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Re: Linux Mint 11 "Katya" RC released!

Postby funky_uncle on Wed May 11, 2011 4:27 pm

Mint 11 looks great, a few issues though:

- moving the Firefox window maximizes it
- double clicking on a corner of my touchpad doesn't disable it. That feature works in Windows and OpenSUSE
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Re: Linux Mint 11 "Katya" RC released!

Postby AdamMint on Wed May 11, 2011 7:32 pm

Stable for me !
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Re: Linux Mint 11 "Katya" RC released!

Postby t3g on Thu May 12, 2011 3:32 am

willie42 wrote:It gives you a choice. you can remove them by going into the software manger and removing them :D

With that methodology, you would include 3-4 web browsers, AbiWord and LibreOffice, gThumb and Shotwell, Banshee and Rythmbox, and many other duplicate applications where you really need one and adds unnecessary bloat to the ISO and system off the bat. Yes, you can uninstall them but it reminds me of the days of getting a Windows computer through an OEM and having to remove a crapload of their preinstalled 3rd party software.

To be honest, we are talking media players that serve a basic function to open a container file containing codecs with familiar navigation. In this age of people watching videos online instead of through a dedicated player, it still seems overkill. Especially when the Totem browser plugin masquerades as a VLC plugin next to the actual VLC plugin trying to take control of the same mimetypes.
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Re: Linux Mint 11 "Katya" RC released!

Postby willie42 on Thu May 12, 2011 3:56 am

Well I look at it this way. In Linux you can remove what you don't want and add the applications you do want. As for Microsoft they do not give a choice as to removing software. You can add to but can't really modify too much without going to court. The biggest thing about Linux is it is free. So if the Devs feel like giving choices they can, and they are easily removed with little effort. I also feel that one reason is for the folks that want to convert from Windows to Linux it gives newbies a look at all what Linux offers. So as for what you consider to be bloat is not that big a deal in my eyes just getting it set up to your liking. Its a free operating system offered by people who work in their own time to give us an alternative to Windows and Mac. I appreciate the fact that Linux has lots of applications to offer and to attract newbies to Linux. My hats off to Clem and all the folks who make great sacrifices spending their own valuable time to offer these great alternatives. Relax, Customize to your liking, help the Newbies and be happy. :D
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Re: Linux Mint 11 "Katya" RC released!

Postby kmb42vt on Thu May 12, 2011 11:52 am

willie42 wrote:Well I look at it this way. In Linux you can remove what you don't want and add the applications you do want. As for Microsoft they do not give a choice as to removing software. You can add to but can't really modify too much without going to court. The biggest thing about Linux is it is free. So if the Devs feel like giving choices they can, and they are easily removed with little effort. I also feel that one reason is for the folks that want to convert from Windows to Linux it gives newbies a look at all what Linux offers. So as for what you consider to be bloat is not that big a deal in my eyes just getting it set up to your liking. Its a free operating system offered by people who work in their own time to give us an alternative to Windows and Mac. I appreciate the fact that Linux has lots of applications to offer and to attract newbies to Linux. My hats off to Clem and all the folks who make great sacrifices spending their own valuable time to offer these great alternatives. Relax, Customize to your liking, help the Newbies and be happy. :D


Well said. You can make the distro of your choice as fully loaded or as bare bones as you wish with little effort but no distro in the "out-of-the-box" configuration can please everyone. Personally, I tend to remove Gnome Player and Movie Player and leave VLC (and the VLC Mozilla plugin) installed but that's just my preference.
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Re: Linux Mint 11 "Katya" RC released!

Postby gogogadget on Thu May 12, 2011 11:53 am

Hi! Quick Question, why is the RC CD-iso called "no-codecs"? Does that mean that no multimedia codecs are included?
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Re: Linux Mint 11 "Katya" RC released!

Postby kmb42vt on Thu May 12, 2011 12:06 pm

gogogadget wrote:Hi! Quick Question, why is the RC CD-iso called "no-codecs"? Does that mean that no multimedia codecs are included?


Yup, that's what it means or to be more specific, it only includes the few "good" codecs that are included in a standard Ubuntu release and not all the extra codecs that Mint supplies in their distro. Makes for a smaller download that fits on a CD.

That being said, you can easily update to the full DVD edition of Linux Mint 11 using the "Welcome" screen that pops up on your first login after you install. In the bottom left-hand corner of the Welcome screen you'll see a button labeled something like "Update to the DVD edition". Clicking that will install all the extra "stuff" that's included on the Mint LiveDVD including all the codecs.
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Re: Linux Mint 11 "Katya" RC released!

Postby willie42 on Thu May 12, 2011 12:06 pm

Right the CD version has no codecs you will have to manually install them after you install the OS :D
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Re: Linux Mint 11 "Katya" RC released!

Postby AlbertP on Thu May 12, 2011 12:27 pm

No, you don't need to do that.

After install, when booting Mint 11 for the first time, a welcome screen opens.
In that screen, you can click 'Install codecs'. If you only want the codecs, use that.
If you want to have the full DVD on your computer, click 'Upgrade to DVD edition'. It will download everything that is not included on the DVD.
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Re: Linux Mint 11 "Katya" RC released!

Postby kmb42vt on Thu May 12, 2011 12:47 pm

AlbertP wrote:No, you don't need to do that.

After install, when booting Mint 11 for the first time, a welcome screen opens.
In that screen, you can click 'Install codecs'. If you only want the codecs, use that.
If you want to have the full DVD on your computer, click 'Upgrade to DVD edition'. It will download everything that is not included on the DVD.


Ah, I forgot about just "Install codecs". Guess I've been using Linux Mint too long. :D
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Re: Linux Mint 11 "Katya" RC released!

Postby gogogadget on Thu May 12, 2011 2:08 pm

Thanks for answer, but now I'm still confused: does that mean, that Linux Mint 11 and later versions with the wma/flash/etc. will only ship as a DVD, instead of a simple CD? Why that? In Mint 10 everything fit on the CD (including codecs :s)
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Re: Linux Mint 11 "Katya" RC released!

Postby marcveilleux on Thu May 12, 2011 7:59 pm

HP computer P4 2.8 GHz model d530C (plain vanilla no video card other than the one on the mobo)
The monitor is a Samsung SyncMaster 203B with a native resolution of 1400x1050

Problems:

1- garbled screen at installation time (black squares appears when I click somewhere on the screen, I don't see all icons properly)
2- I manage to install Katya but the computer freeze at what should be the login prompt at every startup. (Ctrl-Alt-F1 or whatever doesn't work ... even the lights for the caps lock and num lock don't respond.)

Side note: Same problems with Ubuntu 11.04.
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Re: Linux Mint 11 "Katya" RC released!

Postby AlbertP on Fri May 13, 2011 6:17 am

marcveilleux: Please open a new thread about this. And tell us the manufacturer and type of the onboard graphics chip in that thread.
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Re: Linux Mint 11 "Katya" RC released!

Postby bdoe on Sat May 14, 2011 3:21 am

AlbertP wrote:Does anyone know how to get Mint 11 to boot from USB?

I get this when using usb-creator.exe which comes within the ISO:
[Error 5] Access denied u"F:\\ldlinux.sys"

The Mint 10 option in Universal USB Installer 1.8.4.6 does not work: Syslinux 3.86 is too old for Mint 11.
The Ubuntu 11.04 option also fails (and so does the Mint 10 option after manually installing Syslinux 4.04 on the USB):
vesamenu.c32: not a COM32 image
I had this problem as well, even after using the Startup Disk Creator in Ubunu 10.10. I accidentally tripped on a workaround for the "vesamenu.c32: not a COM32 image" problem: Just type "live" (without the quotes) at the boot: prompt, and all should be well.
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Re: Linux Mint 11 "Katya" RC released!

Postby Cactusface on Sat May 14, 2011 5:20 am

Hi,
A bit of a newbie here! Just downloaded Mint 11 RC, all seems to work OK so far, but find Gnome commander bombs out when I ask it to connect to an FTP site. It works fine under Mint 10. :(

Sure as the days go by, other little quirks will show themselves!! I look forward to the full and fixed release....
And sorry but I don't like the blank screen at boot time, a bit like the Mac your never sure what if anything is happening, and something happening might be nothing!!!! You could be just hanging there.

Must play some more...
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