Hello Mr. Doe,
Greetings! I stumbled across your issue and previous post on my Kindle Fire while waiting for my wife to wake up so we could go to her medical appointment. So I do not have answers, but want to follow this issue you raised, and that altho I'm new to Linux would like you to know I support your concerns ~
Post by johndoe on Tue Mar 12, 2013 10:30 am
Did this ever get fixed / addressed?
I stopped using Linux Mint due to the problem, wonder if it's safe to return.
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I suspect this may relate to a post I made several weeks ago, and only got one reply that I thought was fairly dismissive.
viewtopic.php?f=90&t=127671 Subject line of Suspicious source for updating time -Akamai? Security hole? So, there is another application, the clock. The other Linux distros I've tried either set the clock through our computer system time or would allow us to connect to the public network of NNTP servers using the long-established time protocol, etc.
As I don't have much time at the moment, I read several times through Mr. Lefebvre's (clem, the project leader) who responded to you. On the surface, his answer seemed somewhat reasonable, but the more I considered it, then I noticed what I thought was faulty rationale (and I'm tryiing to be non-accusatory here in the spirit of not trying to assume poor intentions).
-- I do not think your concern displays paranoia ...
-- What i found odd after some consideration has to do with Mr. Lefebvre's statement ~
" We're basically talking about a python program here which is trying to assess whether or not your computer is connected to the Internet. In order to achieve this, it tries to read the one domain that's the most likely to always be working... google.com." It seems to me, however, that a simple ping sequence in that Phython program would establish whether your computer was indeed connected to the Internet.
The other aspect relates to what little experience I have in the Android world, just my wife's cellfone and my Kindle Fire. When I go to install an App, I'm pretty sure it tells me whether or not and who it is going to make a network connection with? It would seem prudent then to raise the issue for someone about to try out one of these distributions a statement that discloses something along the line of your subject such as "If you decide to try the CD or USB version of this Linux distribution, please be advised that it will connect to XX Internet servers for the purpose of YYY" And, of course, there would have to be more elaboration on that point.
So, your experience and mine with the built-in clock application is interesting. I've been using Wireshark also on a Win 7 bootup, starting with my wireless or wired connection turned off. Then starting Wireshark and then starting the network connection just to see what happens when my laptop is "idle". It was in that vein that I ran across the Linux 14 Mint MATE clock application going out to Akamai. I suspect you know much more about Akamai than I do. When you posted the Wireshark output, I thought, "wow...this isn't a standard ping response" and that's when I kept reading.
This is also going to be a learning experience for me as Mr. Lefebrve had a link to the Python code. I'm not a programmer but since the code is supposed to be free to look at, it would be interesting to see whether that mention in the Python code is still in the Mint Update program.
Finally, two points ~
1) in my spirit of trying to give the Mint development team the benefit of the doubt, I wonder, Mr. Doe, whether they found it necessary or prudent because of their sponsors to do more than just ping to determine Internet connectivity?
2) As you read my post link above, I share the same issue with you about what is the proper way to elevate these concerns. I thought "...security hole?" in the subject line would being some serious commentators or some members of the development team into the discussion.
Cheers...
PS -- Again, I'm not a programmer but the changelog for this program at
https://github.com/linuxmint/mintupdate ... /changelog is a bit cryptic to me due to my lack of experience. But since you raised the issue in the summer of 2012, I don't see a mention in the changelog that seems to relate to the issue you raised.