Can Software learn and think..?

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Re: Can Software learn and think..?

Postby Dragonspirit on Wed Oct 07, 2009 9:37 pm

DrHu wrote:
Lantesh wrote: "binary codes only or simple on/off commands ..."




Ahh! that's it!.. The computer operates on "binary codes", so what's needed, is a way to escape needing binary codes, then the computer will think...

I see the matrix of a plastic, made from inert element compounds and petroleum... I see how to make this plastic... With it we can literally grow computers, which are worn on the fore-arm as a skin-graft... Studies of this plastic, in my mind's lab, show it will grow its own software on demand.. so in a way, maybe replacing binary is done by synthesizing and adding "the code-factors that cause muscles to grow on demand"..?

I see how this plastic could grow synthetic replacement organs, to have humans life expectancy bump up to 300-years, plus... 700-is our maximum hereditary potential... I know how to make a human live to 700, but no one believes me... This species isn't ready for what I found... too bad I don't have a lab... All I get is remote viewers desperate to try to suck scientific data from my mind, but I employ very nasty sorcery to deal them away from me... They learn the hard way that this is a Private Mind!.. I found this cutie little cosmic sword in a thick mind fog... It cut intruders on approach, and mark them as dragon-kibbles, in defending my right to privacy, and to protect my proprietorial property... The last powerful mind to try to steal data from my mind was an American female Intel remoter, who was causing me extreme migraines that felt a little like something was actually suckling on the side of my head... I had to stop the headaches, and had no option but to employ sorcery... I had a 20-foot wide black-widow spider make an semi-solid appearance right in front of her... Just before the spider appeared, I commanded her "Don't Move!"... She froze.. The spider almost touched her face with its bright red tipped fangs, and I had my friendly little werewolf buddy press her face and fang tight to the American agent's face, and growl a meaningful warning... Then I retreated my pets...
I heard her yell out, "What a Rush! I Just Pissed My Pants!"... It was the last time she pestered me... Next time she bugs me, the spider WILL Sting her throat!..
Ain't sorcery wonderful...

It sure is a pleasure to chat with people who have functional minds, like you bunch... Lets solve this "computers thinking" thing together.. then we'll have better computers one day sooner...


Please don't try to remote view me.. I do so dislike condeming people to be recycled at their end... Lets just chat about fun things...
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Re: Can Software learn and think..?

Postby Dragonspirit on Thu Oct 08, 2009 12:14 am

markfiend wrote:Dragonspirit that is an awesome story. Thanks for sharing!.




You had to be there to really feel it up close and personal... I'm still amazed that I survived any of it...
It didn't stop there... That was just the fun part.. it got worse.. much much worse!.. But it taught me a lot about communicating with living things...
I wonder if what happened could be done with electronics..?

The next morning I was still paralyzed 100%... I tried just about everything to break the freeze that little monkey laid on me... I broke it by accident while I started to try something new... I had to pee so bad!.. I barely managed to get to my knees, then made my way around the camp for half an hour till I got my legs working...
I now know why the ancients who were paralyzed by those beasts flatly refused to talk about it... It's obvious.. they messed themselves in their togas...

After I did my morning camp things, and took a stroll to look at, and erase, all her huge footprints, I got into some stuff way too deep for my level of evolution to handle safely... It nearly killed me several times... The very worst part of the whole mess was when a small bumble bee mistook my ear for a flower, and crawled in, and got stuck... Every time it tried to back out, it caught its stinger in my ear-hole skin, and each time, it injected a tiny bit of venom, and I could hear that it was growing angrier by the second... I knew if I tried prying it out with a stick I'd get a nasty big sting(s) which would very likely kill me... Already the whole side of my head and neck felt invenomated, and my ear and neck stung like a new kind of fire... I had nothing but a fleeting chance that telepathy maybe might work... By then it was the very worst experience of my whole life, times two, coming up for three... It was Big compared to laying out in the wilderness all night totally paralyzed, like a fresh meat-meal set out for anything brave enough to come along and take a bite out of me... All I could do was hear... I heard a lot of large creatures walking around that night... I heard a deer walk close by, and slip in the creek... It's a wonder I've still got nerves left after that night...

I telepathed to the bee in mental-video like the Bigfoot taught me the night before... I had to almost "become" the bee... I detailed in mental video to the bee how "we step forward to release our stinger from the skin, then we raise our bum up as high as we can, and hold it up, then we back out"... The bee stepped forward, raised its bum, and backed out.. and I just stood there with the whole side of my head feeling like it was on fire... I wonders if the bee in the ear was a test..?
Somehow that level of communication will one day be reproduced by electronics, but not today, and not by most people, who are still arguing about the basic existence of the "mind", and fear the mind more than they fear death...

Yesterday, a young hornet entered my shed just after I did, and made a beeline straight to me, and hovered a foot from my face, with no sound.. Its wings were flapping so soft and gentle, it looked like fuzzy aura... "a soft bee" thinks It... She flew close to my eye, then gently touched my left hand.. the hand I've been using to hold the spoon of honey that I've been feeding to the hornets in a little dish outside... She touched my hand, then flew to the dish.. When I returned with the spoon of honey, she was waiting at the dish... She was way too gentle and mature for such a young bee... Me thinks it was the queen communicating to me through the little one, in politely requesting more honey... I just gotta make that form of communication into electronics...

I've experienced several prime experiences with other stinging critters... all as intense, and one much worse than the little bee in the ear... I wonder how this level of communication could be synthesized for a computer OS..? There's something in it that I can't see yet... Can you imagine "telepathing to your computer, and it responding like it should..? This skin-graft computer needs this to work without keyboard and mouse...
Humans will need to think to make it work, which probably means this PC won't be a big seller.. just a whimsical novelty...


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Seems some of my posts have been taken out of the system... If you people don't want me to post here, just say so, and I'll leave faster than you can wink...
Check them out.. I merely defended myself from a flamer's initial attack... Check out all of that person's posts in this forum, and determine if that person starts flame-wars with innocents in this forum.. then you boot-out that mindless bully...

If you people can't handle this much reality, just say so, and I'll leave you with your old bowl of green mashed potatoes... But don't be insulting me just cuz you don't understand me... I hold enough data just in a tiny segment of my mind to delete all the content of all the world's universities, and replace it with new stuff... I bring a lot to a table, but I will Not tolerate bullies!.. I was big-time bullied all my life from birth, and now I'm Fighting back Big-time... Lets play nice, or not at all... If you can't handle anymore reality, just say so, and I'll leave you in your numb-stupor...


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A little mark-humor for "Mark"...

My blond neighbor cut her front lawn maybe once a year, so to make my place look good I had to cut her little lawn whenever I did mine...

I was finishing up on her lawn, when a strange box-pear-shaped young female stops her car near me, gets out, and asks "Are you Mark?"..
I'm not Mark, so she drove away...
Seems the blond neighbor bragged at her hospital workplace that "a mark was doing her lawn for free, and that she should go find a mark too to do her lawn for free".. so that numbed out female probably went all over the town "searching for someone named Mark who would do things for her for free"...
I wonders how some people remembers when to breathe..?
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Re: Can Software learn and think..?

Postby Dragonspirit on Mon Oct 12, 2009 6:37 am

Yeah.. Trying to obsolete the present computer operating systems base is a huge, way "off the wall" project.. but it could be easy if we forget what we've got, and try to not apply any of it to something totally new and different, and better...

I see the technologies to harness raw momentum for power.. and the technologies that hold a complete computer and its OS in a regulatable liquid electricity cloud... I see how to create hologram actors that you couldn't discern from the real things... I really want to get these technologies into the works before I can't process thought on these levels... I figure in just under five years my heart won't be strong enough for me to safely process thought on these extreme levels.. Humanity's survival depends on humanity exploiting these technologies.. which means humanity's window of beating its impending inevitable extinction, is five short years, then I take it all to the grave and beyond... If humanity doesn't provide me with a lab soon, humanity is dead-history by the year 145,730, when the last human can be viewed cracking the marrow out of the bones of the second last...

If I get use of a lab, in an all honesty atmosphere, I will build and market flying/floating cars, and I will fund the Ubuntu project to the tune of about a billion $ the moment I am able... if I can't find any honesty on planet earth from humanity, then as far as I'm concerned it can just all go to hell for all I care...

I see the technologies to create two new periodic charts of the elements... I see the technologies to create 200-million new chemical compounds.. but it seems humanity is content to evolve at the natural rate... Humanity fears change and new more than it fears death itself... It seems your numbed-out species is content to exist in absolute-stagnation... You do nothing, until change affects your comfort levels to the point that you can't numb it out any longer... It seems humans are living just to die... :D :D :D

If anyone can create a new computer OS, it's me.. but I need your triggers...
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Re: Can Software learn and think..?

Postby Dragonspirit on Sun Oct 25, 2009 5:46 am

How many numbers in 2...?


If 2 is only one-number.. then 2 = 1... therefore boolean is essentially "0, 1, 2 plus".. including 1000, which is also just one-number...
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Re: Can Software learn and think..?

Postby JahBless on Wed Oct 28, 2009 3:32 pm

The human brain also is a series of "0" and "1" - or - "on" and "off" switches...


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I was thinking about statistics before and in the end it really doesn't matter what the percentages are because in the end what only matters is the yes or the no, the will it or won't it.
And if you really look at the world/society we have created and live in, how many of us actually "think" for ourselves?? How many are still sleeping and following orders and patterns without actually "thinking" about their own existence...
Think about it :idea:
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Re: Can Software learn and think..?

Postby Dragonspirit on Tue Nov 03, 2009 9:59 am

If we cling to "yes and no", we won't ever be where what is beyond "yes and no" to know...
We must think out of the box.. "out of the cage"...
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Re: Can Software learn and think..?

Postby JahBless on Tue Nov 03, 2009 9:42 pm

Do you mean... possibly... stick a "maybe" in there also???

Seriously though... what are the possibilities?... Yes, No, Maybe(undefined), Yes&No(everything), Nothing(void, zilch, nada).

"But in the end, it doesn't even matter..." (wise words by the band that Metallica supported in Ireland... what?!)
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Re: Can Software learn and think..?

Postby Dragonspirit on Wed Nov 04, 2009 2:46 am

"But in the end, it doesn't even matter..."


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All we've got for computer intellect, is a switch that can be on, or off...
Obviously you haven't witnessed an animate double helix flowing inside itself, up and down simultaneous... There is no on nor off in reality...
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Re: Can Software learn and think..?

Postby JahBless on Wed Nov 04, 2009 8:34 am

Dragonspirit, are you talking about something like this? http://sciencestage.com/v/7557/dna-double-helix.html
:lol: I have to admit if it wasn't for G...Go... Google, I would still be lost :P :lol:
Isn't it possible that things like that are just programs told to behave a certain way? and of course the "if" command was used extensively too :idea:
I'm only throwin' stuff out there for debate, but the thing is, nobody can really say how the creation of life/the universe really happened anyway, or what happened before them... which seems even more interesting to me ;)
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Re: Can Software learn and think..?

Postby DrHu on Wed Nov 04, 2009 12:45 pm

Dualism is a human construct
It is only our pride that makes us think it wasn't always thus
    we might believe that our ancestors (the first humans) were not like us, in our thinking capacity or ability to have ideas or imagination or vision, but there is little evidence for that view
http://www.edwdebono.com/debono/po.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fuzzy_logic
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multi-valued_logic
Yes, No, Po (yes, No, maybe)
3 valued logic, or fuzzy logic
    Fuzzy logic is a form of multi-valued logic derived from fuzzy set theory to deal with reasoning that is approximate rather than precise. In contrast with "crisp logic", where binary sets have binary logic
Therefore we think, computers cannot think
    Our pride demands that we place ourselves highest
    --the hierarchy of life idea
http://www.whatislife.com/principles/pr ... rarchy.htm
    In this hierarchical organization, each higher level exists only with all lower levels intact (single celled organism don’t include tissue and organ levels). Importantly, each higher level provides novel (emerging) properties not found at any lower level, an important feature of hierarchical systems. This phenomenon is known as ‘the whole is more than the sum of its parts’.
Quite obviously a computer could be a hierarchy
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Re: Can Software learn and think..?

Postby JahBless on Thu Nov 05, 2009 1:33 am

Hmmm... Lots to ponder over... More time is needed for this discussion... and many more tabs to be opened too! :mrgreen:
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