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Postby Husse on Wed Apr 04, 2007 5:34 am

Today I installed some updates and some of them had to do with Xserver. Now as soon as I see the desktop when I boot, gnome warns that another session is already running - closing down, and I cant get in no matter what alternative I chose (except failsafe terminal) Luckily I still have XP so I can cry out for help.
I'll try again and see if reconfigure xserver does any good.
//edit//
Nothing was changed except the updates when log in to gnome failed.
It was solved by removing beryl in recovery mode - I enabled beryl forgetting that I used the "vesa" driver :)
I think beryl has brought with it some problems making the computer somewhat unstable so I considered removing anyway.
After that I reconfigured xserver to use vesa (a second time) and as soon as I could use the desktop I opened a terminal and uninstalled and installed the nvidia driver.
Everything is back - I can even start the "Nvida Settings" under "System Tools" - beryl broke that.
Beryl has to become more developed (the version is only 0.2 something if I remember correctly) before I try it again.
One lesson is learned from this - do remember some essential commands (like dpkg -r) and/or have a dual boot so you can look them up, I remembered :)
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Postby NiksaVel on Wed Apr 04, 2007 6:34 am

hehe... I had some major problems with Beryl too... made me leave it far away from my comps until it gets to 1.0....
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Postby Husse on Wed Apr 04, 2007 7:05 am

yeah
but what happened - did the update destroy my system or what?
We may expect cries for help....
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Postby Zone on Wed Apr 04, 2007 11:25 am

I just got the update for xorg, upon restart, i keep hanging up on the login screen, It accepts name and password, then right back to initial login screen. Please help :(

Update: I had to remove the Nvidia drivers via envy, re-install them, restart the Mint box, to get the desktop back. Something still isnt right when Beryl loads, Everything seems to take a bit longer now after the initial "log-in" screen. Any Ideas?
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Postby mumbo719 on Wed Apr 04, 2007 2:00 pm

Same login problems here plus e-mail (pop) would not download via Evolution.

Rebooted, ran Envy and everything seems to be back to normal.

I do not use Beryl though.
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Postby Sorensei on Wed Apr 04, 2007 2:35 pm

I got the update waiting for me tonight - did not run it. The problem is not only for beryl users, then?

Only with nVidia drivers or are they some ATI users too?
I don't have a solution, but I do admire the problem.
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Postby sanguinemoon on Wed Apr 04, 2007 2:53 pm

NiksaVel wrote:hehe... I had some major problems with Beryl too... made me leave it far away from my comps until it gets to 1.0....
Something tells me this might never happen or happen years from now. Beryl strikes me as one of those open source projects that lives in perpetual beta :lol:

Maybe the remerger with Compiz will get them to have improve the quality of the code. That is unless that restricts their freedom and they decide to "fork" again :roll:
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Postby Sorensei on Wed Apr 04, 2007 3:07 pm

Okay... I had a look at the Ubuntu.fr forum to see if the xorg update had made any victims there. It did. Someone pointed out that after every X update the ATI/nVidia drivers should be reinstalled, or X would crash at the next start.

My question is, should I install the X update and run envy before restarting, or do I have to wait for the new settings to load and crash?

Sorry if it's a stupid question... :?
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Postby mumbo719 on Wed Apr 04, 2007 3:31 pm

Nvidia for me.
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Postby Husse on Wed Apr 04, 2007 6:05 pm

Sorensei you are absolutely right. It is recommended to reinstall after an update to X. For some reason I did not think about it and just shut down.
So I think install the updates (they seemed important - possible security risk from buffer overflow) and reinstall the drivers from envy. If you keep Beryl select Metacity as window handler and let it be so a while before you change to beryl.
Can't remember if it applies to ATI as well, but if it does it saves you some trouble if you install before shutting down/rebooting
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Postby Zone on Wed Apr 04, 2007 6:44 pm

Hello,
Well as long as Envy worked for us we didn't get it bad. I also use Nvidia, and Beryl. Didn't seem to matter though, or doesn't. I went and dissabled Beryl on the boot, and still same issue.
For Info: I use two different Nvidia cards, it did both my machines,
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Postby Husse on Thu Apr 05, 2007 5:11 am

Zone, I think you have to remove Beryl, not just disable it.
Boot into recovery mode and type "dpkg -r beryl beryl-manager" and beryl is removed. Reboot into recovery mode and run envy, first uninstall then install. I don't think you have to go through the process of reconfiguring X as I did - that was partly because the frustration made me brain dead. :)
And I just say reboot to be really on the safe side....
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Postby Zone on Thu Apr 05, 2007 9:14 am

Husse wrote:Zone, I think you have to remove Beryl, not just disable it.


Well i personally love Beryl, and as seen above, I don't think just people with Beryl were affected, it looks like others as well. After Running "envy" I was able to un-install the Nvidia drivers, and run "envy" again and reinstall them. Everything seems to be fine including Beryl.
Husse: Thanks for the tip. :) I have that written down just in case. :)
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