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Postby jb14813 on Wed Aug 29, 2007 7:29 pm

yeah i need to install some tar or something for the updated nvidia drivers can some one plz help
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Postby jb14813 on Wed Aug 29, 2007 7:46 pm

am i in the right subforum for this isue?
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Postby sonicbhoc on Wed Aug 29, 2007 7:59 pm

tar is installed in EVERY distribution of linux by default. It is a required tool for, well, everything.

If by some odd chance you don't have it, it should install automatically if you use Synaptic. You shouldn't download software off of the Internet - use Synaptic and make it grab software for you. Or, you could use Adept since it is already installed. But I recommend that you install Synaptic and use that.

Just install the new nvidia driver package from Synaptic/Adept and run nvidia-xconfig.
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Postby jb14813 on Wed Aug 29, 2007 8:07 pm

uhm ok you dont understand .tar is a file type i need to install a file that is a .tar type file tar is not a program even i know that and i have only had linux for maby 2 weeks
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Postby sonicbhoc on Wed Aug 29, 2007 8:24 pm

No, you should never have to open .tar files.

Are you using the KDE edition? Click the menu and click "add and remove programs". Then, search for "nvidia" and install nvidia-new. Don't go to the nvidia website to download software. Only use either Synaptic or Adept to add and remove software. Using other sources could damage your computer...
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Postby jb14813 on Wed Aug 29, 2007 8:27 pm

it is not there
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Postby sonicbhoc on Wed Aug 29, 2007 8:46 pm

alright. let me actually get the list of packages up, and I'll guide you step-by-step on how to do this using Adept.

1. Click the menu and click Add and Remove Programs to start Adept.
2. search for nvidia
3. install nvidia-glx-new.
4. run this command:
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sudo nvidia-xconfig --add-argb-glx-visuals --allow-ddcci --allow-glx-with-composite --composite --damage-events --load-kernel-module --logo --mode=1280x1024 --render-extension --use-edid-freqs


If you want to see what all that stuff does:
http://linux.die.net/man/1/nvidia-xconfig
has all the information. You can change the "mode" parameter to whatever you like, but I have my screens running at 1280x1024 most of the time.

When you're done, logout and press CTRL+ALT+Backspace and, if you did it right, there should be a pretty new nvidia logo on your screen. If you don't like the logo, change the above configuration to say "--nologo" instead of "--logo".
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Postby jb14813 on Wed Aug 29, 2007 8:50 pm

ok mind doesnt have that it has

nvtv tv out
NVidia binary X.Org driver
NVidia binary X.Org 'legacy' driver
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Postby linuxviolin on Wed Aug 29, 2007 8:55 pm

jb14813 wrote:.tar is a file type i need to install a file that is a .tar type file

tar is a "utility used to store, backup and transport files." It is intalled by default normally so you should not have problems to use it... :roll:
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Postby sonicbhoc on Wed Aug 29, 2007 8:57 pm

You know what? GUIs suck.

Open the program called Konsole in the menu.

copy and paste following things in order (in Konsole paste is shift+insert):
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sudo apt-get update

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sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-new synaptic

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sudo nvidia-xconfig --add-argb-glx-visuals --allow-ddcci --allow-glx-with-composite --composite --damage-events --load-kernel-module --logo --mode=1280x1024 --render-extension --use-edid-freqs


Also, try using Synaptic instead of Adept for package management. It's search function should get you by quite nicely.

EDIT:
Forgot the sudo. sudo is required for all installation and uninstallation commands.

Seriously, though, try synaptic if envy is too complex for you.
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Postby linuxviolin on Wed Aug 29, 2007 9:00 pm

jb14813 why you don't use Envy for installing nvidia drivers? :roll:
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Postby sonicbhoc on Wed Aug 29, 2007 9:02 pm

linuxviolin wrote:jb14813 why you don't use Envy for installing nvidia drivers? :roll:

NO NO NO NO NO NO NO
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
NO.

The last time I used that tool, it destroyed my entire system. Don't use it. just install the nvidia driver and use nvidia-xconfig. It does the same thing as far as I can tell, and it won't destroy your system.
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Postby jb14813 on Wed Aug 29, 2007 9:10 pm

jacob@jacob-desktop:~$ apt-get update
E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (13 Permission denied)
E: Unable to lock the list directory
jacob@jacob-desktop:~$

i am using the kde version of linux mint the comunity one yeah thats the ohh yeah
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Postby sonicbhoc on Wed Aug 29, 2007 9:11 pm

oops. You have to use sudo for all apt-get commands. Check my above post, I've fixed it. (hit reload a few times to see it)
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Postby linuxviolin on Wed Aug 29, 2007 9:15 pm

sonicbhoc wrote:The last time I used that tool, it destroyed my entire system

Ah? Sorry for you but Envy is good. Maybe there was another problem for this destruction... :?
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Postby jb14813 on Wed Aug 29, 2007 9:19 pm

jacob@jacob-desktop:~$ sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-new synaptic
E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
jacob@jacob-desktop:~$ sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-new synaptic
E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
jacob@jacob-desktop:~$
jacob@jacob-desktop:~$ sudo nvidia-xconfig --add-argb-glx-visuals --allow-ddcci --allow-glx-with-composite --composite --damage-events --load-kernel-module --logo --mode=1280x1024 --render-extension --use-edid-freqs

Using X configuration file: "/etc/X11/xorg.conf".
Option "NoLogo" "False" added to Screen "Default Screen".
Option "NoRenderExtension" "False" added to Screen "Default Screen".
Option "AllowGLXWithComposite" "True" added to Screen "Default Screen".
Option "UseEdidFreqs" "True" added to Screen "Default Screen".
Option "AllowDDCCI" "True" added to Screen "Default Screen".
Option "LoadKernelModule" "True" added to Screen "Default Screen".
Option "AddARGBGLXVisuals" "True" added to Screen "Default Screen".
Option "DamageEvents" "True" added to Screen "Default Screen".
Backed up file '/etc/X11/xorg.conf' as '/etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup'
New X configuration file written to '/etc/X11/xorg.conf'

jacob@jacob-desktop:~$


those are the last two commands did they work
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Postby sonicbhoc on Wed Aug 29, 2007 9:36 pm

@linuxviolin: Nope. Envy has messed up other people's systems, too.

It was a fresh install, so it couldn't have been any modifications I made to the system.

Installing the driver through synaptic is guaranteed to work, whereas scripts can fail.

And using that nvidia-xconfig command, beryl, compiz or the far superior compiz-fusion should all work right out of the box.

@jacob: yeah, they worked. But, you have to close synaptic and adept (add and remove programs) to use apt-get to install software. So close them, and try to install nvidia-glx-new and synaptic again. But you don't need to run the nvidia-xconfig thing again.
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