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Postby Adler on Sun Sep 23, 2007 2:44 pm

scorp123,

I've got these to burn to CD - debian-40r1-i386-businesscard.iso, and debian-40r1-i386-CD-1.iso.

As it stands Vector Linux is loaded, but just need to get that Linksys PCMCIA WiFi card going. Wireless has always been a Linux issue.

I've got a work around for that in emergencies with Linuxant.
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Postby Artemis3 on Sun Sep 23, 2007 10:17 pm

Last week i installed Puppy in a Compaq Armada 100s which has 64MiB ram (56 usable) and it worked perfectly and loaded fast. Of course Dillo runs faster than Firefox ;)

I used puppy-2.17.1-nolzma-seamonkey-fulldrivers.iso to burn a CD; booted, used gparted to make a swap and reiserfs (or ext3) for the system and then did the hard disk install (be patient and leave the machine alone for a couple of hours).
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Postby Adler on Thu Sep 27, 2007 10:21 pm

Artemis3,

As it stands Debian Etch works the best in regard to the installer, apps, and just about everything else.

This machine is ancient -- PII best "Designed for Windows NT / Windows 95. It is not fast, but faster than many, many M$ XP machines that I've used even today. Plus more secure.

What I wanted to actually install was Damn Small Linux, but never could get it done because the version was never recognized.

Another attempt that I tried was the many "Business Card" versions out the e.g 50-60Mb ISOs. That would have been the way to go.

Guys, thanks for all the posts.
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Postby Husse on Sat Sep 29, 2007 3:54 pm

Good luck...
And o boy I just remembered that my first own computer had 16 or 24 MB RAM... I could run Win95 quite OK...
CPU was an AMD 486...
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Postby sx66gns on Sun Sep 30, 2007 6:10 pm

I have done this on the very same model laptop.

I used this very guide:
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Insta ... orySystems

I installed a commmand line system , Added X & Tried a few DE's settled on fluxbox but any will work , added only the dependencies & programs I needed ONLY for that specific application , Keep the dependencies DE specific , for instance if you choose XFCE , do not install Amarok and all it's baggage.

If I'm not mistaken this is essentially what the old schoolers had to do back in the day and is why *unix got the die hard nerd stigma folks not in the know still label it with , honestly I went into that first setup without knowing what to expect with that guide and it was sooooo easy , I was amazed.

btw , with Fluxbox you can install debian support and actually use apt-get.
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Postby Adler on Sun Sep 30, 2007 7:50 pm



sx66gns,

Thanks for that Link. I have bookmarked it for future reference.
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Postby scorp123 on Mon Oct 01, 2007 1:19 am

sx66gns wrote: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Insta ... orySystems

I installed a commmand line system , Added X .... added only the dependencies & programs I needed ..... If I'm not mistaken this is essentially what the old schoolers had to do back in the day
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Postby sx66gns on Mon Oct 01, 2007 7:58 am

Also , this is pretty sweet

Fluxbuntu
http://fluxbuntu.org/

Seems that site is being revamped , you can prolly catch it from distrowatch or I could fed-ex a disc to you.

It's kinda ruff around the edges, but an option if you don't feel like doing the work.
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A couple of small Distros to try

Postby bobpur on Tue Oct 02, 2007 11:54 pm

I used to have an old IBM Thinkpad 390E from about 1999 or so. At first, I maxed out the memory to 256 mb and added a bigger harddrive (4.3 gb to 40 gb) and used the old 4.3 gb drive in an enclosure as additional storage. BTW, The old drive was 4200 rpm and the 40 gb drive is 5400 rpm drive. That makes a difference.
Anyhow, I had Xubuntu v6.06 running on it. Also, Berry Linux, Goblinx, PCLinuxOS v0.93 "Mini Me" and "Junior," and Sante Fe Linux. I heard about Fluxbuntu after I got rid of it or I would've tried it too. They all ran on the Thinkpad. Some were slower than others and I blame that on lack of memory and the slow harddrive. That was my first laptop.
I, eventually, put Windows 2000 pro in it and gave it to my daughter for school. I just could not get wireless working on it and bought myself a new laptop. She still has the Thinkpad.
Just some more suggestions for you to try.

Good Luck.
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Postby Adler on Wed Oct 03, 2007 5:36 pm

bobpur,

Thanks for sharing that.
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Re: A couple of small Distros to try

Postby D-EJ915 on Wed Oct 03, 2007 9:27 pm

bobpur wrote:I used to have an old IBM Thinkpad 390E from about 1999 or so. At first, I maxed out the memory to 256 mb and added a bigger harddrive (4.3 gb to 40 gb) and used the old 4.3 gb drive in an enclosure as additional storage. BTW, The old drive was 4200 rpm and the 40 gb drive is 5400 rpm drive. That makes a difference.
The new 5400 drives actually consume less power than old 4200 drives did. I stuck a new 5400 drive in my old vaio and it's amazing how much faster it runs now.
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Postby Mdmint on Sun Oct 21, 2007 11:35 pm

Adler,

I had Damn Small Linux running on a 166 Mhz IBM Thinkpad with 64 MB ram and a 2 Gig harddrive. I did until the CMOS battery died and I had to tear the poor thing apart and it never "came back to life."

I have recently purchased 3 used laptops and 1 desktop at an auction and the first thing I did was boot up Damn Small Linux in each of them to see what I had gotten as specifications before buying weren't that great. I also used Damn Small Linux to partition the hard drive before installing Mint.

I actually got Damn Small Linux running on a Compaq Deskpro 2000, 132 MHz, with 16 MB RAM (yes 16!). After partitioning and making a 64 MB swap partition I actually get a limited X - by turning off the pretty stuff (plain background, no icons) I can run Dillo and Syphleed, so Damn Small Linux should work well on your old laptop.

I would be glad to coach you any way I can if you want to try Damn Small Linux again - just let me know.


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Postby Adler on Wed Oct 24, 2007 9:30 pm

Mdmint,

Thanks for that. In the end I had to go to Etnernet with Debian because I could not get WiFI going.

You have raised an interesting point -- buying "what is thought to be old equipment. The other day I was in a small PC store, and saw some well-kept stuff that might make a useful back-up / test set-up.

I've the idea "Why By New" has now become appealing, let alone up-dating to every new Distribution out there. Hmm...

How did you do 'Net connect?
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Postby Mdmint on Thu Oct 25, 2007 10:32 pm

Adler,
I had a network card and put that in as we now have high speed internet. When I was on dial-up I found out that an external serial modem will get you online with dial--up and linux.(cannot be USB - must be external serial modem).

I was pretty amazed it works (though very limited in terms of being pretty and running big programs like firefox and openoffice). Dillo and links work for surfing websites. Ted text editor works in X, but I can also use Vim. Love midnight commander and emel FM for wading through directories. Couldn't get sound card to work (and didn't have another one to try). CenterIQC and Naim work great for chatting up a storm. And for quick e-mailing Elmo ROCKS!

Ain't it amazing that an old 133 Mhz computer with 16 MB ram can do all that and be pretty safe?

If I can answer any more questions, just let me know.

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Postby Adler on Thu Oct 25, 2007 10:42 pm

Mdmint,

Thanks for that! I'll keep it in mind that you've helped.
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