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Hello from UK (Bath)

Postby peaceandharmony1 on Sat Oct 27, 2012 7:13 am

Salutations!, to all from me,
New to Mint and Xfce'
In fact (almost) a complete newbie,
Windozing before, stuck on XP ...
Expecting service, where there was none ...
(Still not able to "get a refund"),
I now try Maya on my Np-Q1,
A 6 year old tablet, made by Samsung.
Out of the box, Mint 13 looks fine,
Installed and updated in a really short time,
Despite that slow celeron, CPU of mine ...
Then a few days with the command line.
So far so good, no real problems abound,
Except for one thing, I have no sound.
Googling fails, no solution is found,
So I look to see what help is around ...
So back to my greeting, as the reason you see,
Why I beg help from all of thee,
To install Linux on my UMPC,
But first I must bid, to All - Blessed Be.
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Re: Hello from UK (Bath)

Postby The-Wizard on Sat Oct 27, 2012 8:25 am

Welcome citizen of Aquae Sulis to the Mint family forums

first check on your sound ... has it loaded in mute mode [this often happens] if not the try the search engine [there cant be many problems which a fix hasn't been found]

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Re: Hello from UK (Bath)

Postby peaceandharmony1 on Sat Oct 27, 2012 11:30 am

Thanks wizard

Whole days spent googling, reading and trying suggestions, it's just the learning curve.
I'd like to think that I've learnt a little bit and already plan a reinstall better partitioned
than all on one sole 60gigs for example. But one thing at a time, first know how to get this
machine working and discover if it can be set up to do the things I need it to do.
The "is it plugged in is it switched on thing" hehe ... I believe the hardware to be
working. I believe thus far the OS is good too! I believe The drivers all look good but
not sure about sound. The software LOOKS unmuted and switched on to my eye and the
variety of different interfaces from manuals. A green volume meter type bar even moves
up and down in Pulse but no sound ... frustration ... and only myself to "blame" hehe
So I thinks to myself ...
When i drove coaches I was trained to get someone to give me directions when reversing.
When on parcel delivery to get help for heavy and awkward ... Well ... my parcel is too
heavy about this sound thing to lift on my own and I guess I hope like I'm sort of in the
gymnasium asking for a quick lift. Hope delivery doesn't involve too many stairs hehe.
Anyway maybe I wax overlyrically, this place looks for greetings and simple guidance not
diagnostic stuff.

Blessed Be



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Re: Hello from UK (Bath)

Postby peaceandharmony1 on Sat Oct 27, 2012 11:33 am

Should I post a question in the sound forum? Thanks in advance for any help. :D
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Re: Hello from UK (Bath)

Postby The-Wizard on Sat Oct 27, 2012 1:56 pm

im not an expert but try... menu- preferences- additional drivers [you will need web connection] see if it finds anything, it did for my sound card

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Re: Hello from UK (Bath)

Postby peaceandharmony1 on Mon Oct 29, 2012 7:52 am

That didn't do it either hehe. It did however open a new portion of learning curve.
A slightly different route in Xfce, menu- settings- additional drivers but the result
was a message saying I had NO proprietary drivers installed. :idea: "Try
Samsung and Intel for this" I says to myself "leave the poor guys on mint forums
alone a minute and go chase the guys who ought to be offering the refund"

Googling combos of Samsung/Intel Linux Sound Drivers, I skillfully avoided browsing
the quality brands of linux drivers at lowpriceshopper, proceeding to Samsung. Here
everything in their "Linux Driver Repository" seemed to be a printer. Great, I should
be able to install my Freecycle Samsung ML-1755 printer on the Np-Q1 (V000) when
the time comes. I also learned that Samsung is (or was) a Platinum Linux Member,
contributing £500 000/yr. Anyway, no Linux drivers here at all for the Np-Q1, or a
random recent model either ... Intel? Errr just another nightmare, a search for
82801FB FBM FR FW FRW IDE (ICH6) Audio as identified by the inxi -Fc 0 command ...
nothing except unfathomable stuff even for an experienced windozer like me.
(I didn't watch the automatically loaded 21 video playlist entitled "Navigating the
Intel website)

Slax played sounds though ... shame it didn't like wireless.

All worth a try ...

Blessed Be
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Re: Hello from UK (Bath)

Postby peaceandharmony1 on Mon Oct 29, 2012 10:44 am

The printer is plug and play and worked first time. All I had to do was press print :D
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Re: Hello from UK (Bath)

Postby DisturbedDragon on Mon Oct 29, 2012 6:33 pm

Struggled with this on my NP-Q1 for a few days as will work. Cheers!!

1.First,open up a terminal window (Applications->Accessories->Terminal) and run this command:

sudo head -1 /proc/asound/card0/codec#0

it outputs your audio card type.

2.Edit the configuration file by this command:

sudo gedit /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf

find out this section:

# Keep snd-pcsp from being loaded as first soundcard

options snd-pcsp index=-2

change it into:

# Keep snd-pcsp from being loaded as first soundcard
#options snd-pcsp index=-2
options snd-hda-intel model=laptop-eapd

3.Reboot,and the speaker should working now!
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Re: Hello from UK (Bath)

Postby peaceandharmony1 on Tue Oct 30, 2012 9:22 am

Respect and Greetings Sir !!!

All though this did not solve the problem this really looks like the right track. I worried a little
that all this was out of place on the "introduce yourself" section, but then thought what the hell, if a problem solving thing gets going when saying hello, why not? hehe :D

The codec is AD1986A.

Anyway after entering the command like so ...

tim@UMPC1 ~ $ sudo gedit /etc/modprobe/.d/alsa-base.conf

This happened ...

(gedit:1895): Gtk-WARNING **: Attempting to store changes into `/root/.local/share/recently-used.xbel', but failed: Failed to create file '/root/.local/share/recently-used.xbel.NFMMMW': No such file or directory

(gedit:1895): Gtk-WARNING **: Attempting to set the permissions of `/root/.local/share/recently-used.xbel', but failed: No such file or directory

(gedit:1895): Gtk-WARNING **: Attempting to store changes into `/root/.local/share/recently-used.xbel', but failed: Failed to create file '/root/.local/share/recently-used.xbel.JZWIMW': No such file or directory

(gedit:1895): Gtk-WARNING **: Attempting to set the permissions of `/root/.local/share/recently-used.xbel', but failed: No such file or directory
tim@UMPC1 ~ $

I have know idea (yet) what this means or what do about it, never mind how hehe.

I have so far (I believe ... ) not changed anything important since initial installation except selecting controls in Alsa,(and looking for little rows of OO not MM). I can be 90% sure I changed back anything unsuccessfully tried ... I can reinstall ...

I found two seperate on/off instances of PulseAudio Sound System available at startup, one
with and one without "KDE routing policy". I tried all combinations of on/off and left it as found
ie without KDE enabled and with KDE disabled. I found them in ...

menu - settings - settings manager - system - session and startup - application autostart

Anyway, pleased to meet you and do you know where I ought to go from here?
We might be the only two Q1 peeps on the forum hehe. Not that the architecture is particularly different from any other PC so far as I can see ... I see you look like new here like me but couldn't find your intro ... How do you get on with the Q1? I am using Maya 13 Xfce, which desk top are you using? Might it change command line stuff if they are different?

Hope you dont mind me asking all this stuff ... supposed to try and stay one Q at a time hehe

Blessed Be
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Re: Hello from UK (Bath)

Postby DisturbedDragon on Tue Oct 30, 2012 3:00 pm

You may have to walk the full extent of the mile then. No worries it is easy enough. You will lose the pulse volume icon on the panel but will still have control via the volume buttons on the keyboard and alsamixer.

Completely remove pulseaudio

sudo apt-get autoremove pulseaudio

Reboot

Install gnome-alsamixer

sudo apt-get install gnome-alsamixer
sudo alsa force-reload
gnome-alsamixer
Make sure volume levels are up on Main and/or PCM.

Go here http://www.stchman.com/alsa_update.html and follow directions to update alsa drivers.

Script will take a few minutes to complete. Computer WILL automatically reboot. Sound should work upon boot.

If not, go back to my last post and edit your alsa-base.conf
Make sure you have gedit installed
sudo apt-get install gedit

These steps in this order are how I got sound working for Mint 13 and all Ubuntu derivatives on my Samsung NP-Q1 with AD1986A codec.
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Re: Hello from UK (Bath)

Postby peaceandharmony1 on Tue Oct 30, 2012 9:19 pm

Yeesss!!!!

What can I say but thank you - sound is now working. I did have to go all the way ...

If you are in Bath come and find the downstream boat by the weir and get a free boat ride!

Blessed Be
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Re: Hello from UK (Bath)

Postby DisturbedDragon on Wed Oct 31, 2012 5:12 am

Good to hear the issue is resolved. Glad I could help. Cheers!
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Re: Hello from UK (Bath)

Postby djhurio on Wed Oct 31, 2012 6:52 am

Thank a lot! I had a different sound problem, but this thread led me to the right direction ;)

I have a Creative Labs Audigy sound card, which was working fine but then suddenly got silent. I was googling and digging all posible forums. Tried many advise - but nothing worked. The card was dead silent. Had to switch to internal sound card which is crappy. Though that maybe it is hardware problem not software. But did not had time to properly test it.

After reading this thread made another attempt to solve this problem. Firstly the script http://www.stchman.com/alsa_update.html is outdated - it installs old ALSA drivers. Old ALSA drivers made the flashplugin to crash. Made a correction to the script:

Code: Select all
# Get the files from www.stchman.com
#wget http://www.stchman.com/tools/alsa/alsa-driver-1.0.16.tar.bz2
#wget http://www.stchman.com/tools/alsa/alsa-lib-1.0.16.tar.bz2
#wget http://www.stchman.com/tools/alsa/alsa-utils-1.0.16.tar.bz2
wget http://dl.ambiweb.de/mirrors/ftp.alsa-project.org/driver/alsa-driver-1.0.25.tar.bz2
wget http://dl.ambiweb.de/mirrors/ftp.alsa-project.org/lib/alsa-lib-1.0.25.tar.bz2
wget http://dl.ambiweb.de/mirrors/ftp.alsa-project.org/utils/alsa-utils-1.0.25.tar.bz2


And finally here it comes. Went through all possible options in ALSA-mixer and untick the IEC958 option. And wolaa there was a sound :)
So I it means that I have been somehow enabled digital output. Do not remember how and why. But finally I have a nice sound. The point was to get rid of pulseaudio and use ALSA mixer to see all option.

P.S. And you can have volume icon on the panel also without pulseaudio. You can add it and it will link with the ALSA mixer.

P.P.S. Finally got everything to work. I had a problem with crashing flash plugin. It crashed with sound. The problem at the end was the incorrectly installed ALSA drivers. Be careful with the script provided http://www.stchman.com/alsa_update.html It is crappy. It is better to do it manually! Good luck!
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Re: Hello from UK (Bath)

Postby DisturbedDragon on Thu Nov 01, 2012 5:19 am

Here is a PPA which will keep your ALSA drivers updated to the latest version.

sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-audio-dev/ppa
sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get install linux-alsa-driver-modules-$(uname -r) alsa-driver alsa-utils
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Re: Hello from UK (Bath)

Postby peaceandharmony1 on Thu Nov 01, 2012 2:50 pm

Hi Guys,

Dragon, when I ran the PPA (what is that?) this happened. The first two parts appeared to run ok. When I ran the third part ...

xxx@UMPC1 ~ $ sudo apt-get install linux-alsa-driver-modules-$(uname -r) alsa-driver alsa-utils
[sudo] password for xxx:
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
E: Unable to locate package linux-alsa-driver-modules-3.2.0-23-generic
E: Couldn't find any package by regex 'linux-alsa-driver-modules-3.2.0-23-generic'
E: Unable to locate package alsa-driver

I have noticed that the microphone which visually appeared to be working (in Pulse?) ia not working since the Pulse uninstall and gnome-alsa install. Also that now Flash crashes in
Firefox hehe! The sound panal icon has indeed gone. No idea how to reinstall it linked to Alsa.

I also observed I still have a snd-hda-intel (alsa)mixer installed though with no controls selected. I also still have a Pulse window I can open with a Pulse error message.

Oh and I reinstalled on new \swap \ \home partitions as opposed to all on one.

Any ideas?

Blessed Be
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Re: Hello from UK (Bath)

Postby DisturbedDragon on Fri Nov 02, 2012 5:58 am

The PPA does seem to be experiencing issues. I compiled newer alsa drivers from source but flash still crashes. Not sure what that is about. Updated alsa, flash and firefox. Flash still crashing. Microphones do work for me, make sure they are not muted.

You may comment out the wget links in the alsa_update.sh script and replace with the ones provided by djhurio if you are not comfortable building from source.

Have been working too much to spend any kind of time with it. Will check on it when I have more time.
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Re: Hello from UK (Bath)

Postby jesica on Mon Nov 05, 2012 4:18 am

Hallo!

Goo day and welcome to the Linux Mint Forums.

Hope you have a fab times, :mrgreen:

Regards.
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Re: Hello from UK (Bath)

Postby DisturbedDragon on Sun Dec 09, 2012 9:22 pm

Sorry it has been awhile. Finally got around to messing with this thing. I removed Adobe CRASH :lol: and installed gnash from the repo's. All is well and working now in Firefox and everywhere flash is needed. :D
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