Could we PLEASE get a true idea of release for UP3?
Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2011 12:14 pm
Hi,
I was under the impression UP3 would be released by now. Im already more than a bit annoyed that I installed LMDE shiny new respin and installed alll my normal packages only to find they came from multimedia and that repository has now been slated unfit and scheduled to be changed. I really don't understand why the re-spin just wasnt help back until the latest repo had migrated or until it could be released with UP3 on it but that does'nt really matter. What does is...
1. I can't install any new software as it will pull dependancies from multimedia and not mint latest multimedia! I have to wait now to finish configuring a system for however long and put my work on hold. If I have to re-install I am migrating, these is just a bit too silly.
2. I didn't read the tiny little note on this homepage until AFTER I had installed a bunch of multimedia packges (as everyone does after a fresh install). Now I have to worry about if my system will be compatible with latest whenever it shows up. I KNOW that the majority of people have not read that announcement and will just continue to update everyday until latest comes out, and even then after it comes out since they won't be back to this site untilt he next install to read to change it!! How is this going to be handled? With the dependancies from multimedia packages I installed, my suposedly fresh install now has almost 100 essential packages from multimedia and security.
3. Id rather wait an extra week and not have to deal with all this. Tech people just stop rushing! Im glad technologists of old were not in this much rush. Imagine what it would have been like if inventors release beta level finished products for the first automobile or aeroplane. It took me 1 hour of reading just to figure out what was even going on with the repos. Then after I figured it out, I find out I was using the wrong multimedia repos afterall because it comes set default to security and multimedia? How is that ok or user friendly. Don't get me wrong, its a "great" distribution. But thats the trouble, were so used to computers breaking that even something with a serious problem such as this repository one is lauded as a sweeping sucess simply because its a bit less broken than other similar "finished" products?
So please let us know when we may get UP3 and please make a post regarding those of us who have been installing updates trustingly since release.
P.S. If I got the facts wrong or you feel Im over reacting because it will turn out ok, then you totally missed the point. Home end-users, students, parents, small buissiness owners should need to dig in this deep just for basic system stability or just to understand their system. I think my mother would have better luck disarming a bomb blind than figuring out what repos are what and how to use them.
Positives: I am now VERY educated on debian repos and testing processes.
Negatives: Im a plant scientist. I did'nt want to be. Nobody will repay me for the time and energy needed to spend on getting my already purchased computer to just work.
I was under the impression UP3 would be released by now. Im already more than a bit annoyed that I installed LMDE shiny new respin and installed alll my normal packages only to find they came from multimedia and that repository has now been slated unfit and scheduled to be changed. I really don't understand why the re-spin just wasnt help back until the latest repo had migrated or until it could be released with UP3 on it but that does'nt really matter. What does is...
1. I can't install any new software as it will pull dependancies from multimedia and not mint latest multimedia! I have to wait now to finish configuring a system for however long and put my work on hold. If I have to re-install I am migrating, these is just a bit too silly.
2. I didn't read the tiny little note on this homepage until AFTER I had installed a bunch of multimedia packges (as everyone does after a fresh install). Now I have to worry about if my system will be compatible with latest whenever it shows up. I KNOW that the majority of people have not read that announcement and will just continue to update everyday until latest comes out, and even then after it comes out since they won't be back to this site untilt he next install to read to change it!! How is this going to be handled? With the dependancies from multimedia packages I installed, my suposedly fresh install now has almost 100 essential packages from multimedia and security.
3. Id rather wait an extra week and not have to deal with all this. Tech people just stop rushing! Im glad technologists of old were not in this much rush. Imagine what it would have been like if inventors release beta level finished products for the first automobile or aeroplane. It took me 1 hour of reading just to figure out what was even going on with the repos. Then after I figured it out, I find out I was using the wrong multimedia repos afterall because it comes set default to security and multimedia? How is that ok or user friendly. Don't get me wrong, its a "great" distribution. But thats the trouble, were so used to computers breaking that even something with a serious problem such as this repository one is lauded as a sweeping sucess simply because its a bit less broken than other similar "finished" products?
So please let us know when we may get UP3 and please make a post regarding those of us who have been installing updates trustingly since release.
P.S. If I got the facts wrong or you feel Im over reacting because it will turn out ok, then you totally missed the point. Home end-users, students, parents, small buissiness owners should need to dig in this deep just for basic system stability or just to understand their system. I think my mother would have better luck disarming a bomb blind than figuring out what repos are what and how to use them.
Positives: I am now VERY educated on debian repos and testing processes.
Negatives: Im a plant scientist. I did'nt want to be. Nobody will repay me for the time and energy needed to spend on getting my already purchased computer to just work.