We need more testers to the new incoming repo (how-to)

[kmb42vt]

Just for info's sake, I thought I'd repost a comment I made on the "Update Pack 3 Feedback Thread":

http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?f=187&t=80386

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System: Somewhat modified Gateway Intel Core2-Quad Q8400/4MB L2 Cache, 8GB DDR2, 1 TB HDD, Nvidia GT-430 w/1GB DDR3, 550 watt power supply

I've completed the update to Update Pack 3 on the LMDE 201108 RC that had been previously updated to Pack 2 after install. So far the system is running find, no major glitches. In fact, there's only one glitch and that is seen during boot up after the update but it doesn't seem to affect anything. This is what I see while watching the boot up text (taken from "syslog" file from my last boot up, error shown in red)

-respin-rc kernel: [ 0.378606] pci_root PNP0A08:00: host bridge window [io 0x0000-0x0cf7]
Aug 30 17:08:52 lmde-respin-rc kernel: [ 0.378608] pci_root PNP0A08:00: host bridge window [io 0x0d00-0xffff]
Aug 30 17:08:52 lmde-respin-rc kernel: [ 0.378610] pci_root PNP0A08:00: host bridge window [mem 0x000a0000-0x000bffff]
Aug 30 17:08:52 lmde-respin-rc kernel: [ 0.378612] pci_root PNP0A08:00: host bridge window [mem 0x000d0000-0x000dffff]
Aug 30 17:08:52 lmde-respin-rc kernel: [ 0.378615] pci_root PNP0A08:00: host bridge window [mem 0xc0000000-0xdfffffff]
Aug 30 17:08:52 lmde-respin-rc kernel: [ 0.378617] pci_root PNP0A08:00: host bridge window [mem 0xf0000000-0xfed8ffff]
Aug 30 17:08:52 lmde-respin-rc kernel: [ 0.378622] pci_root PNP0A08:00: address space collision: host bridge window [mem 0x000d0000-0x000dffff] conflicts with Adapter ROM [mem 0x000ce000-0x000d3dff]

Like I said, the system does not seem to be affected at all because of this. I seem to recall I saw the same type of boot up error when I installed the latest Linux Kernel 3.0 RC to LM 11. The error isn't seen with the previous 2.6.29 kernel series.

And just for information sake, I saw 6 "errors/warnings" during the update process for Update Pack 3:

1.

Preparing to replace libgnutls26 2.10.5-2 (using .../libgnutls26_2.12.7-7_amd64.deb) ...
Unpacking replacement libgnutls26 ...
Processing triggers for man-db ...
dpkg: libntfs-3g804: dependency problems, but removing anyway as you requested:
ntfs-3g depends on libntfs-3g804; however:
Package libntfs-3g804 is to be removed.

Of course, I didn't request anything to be removed.

2.

creating fuse group...
udev active, skipping device node creation.
insserv: warning: current stop runlevel(s) (0 6) of script `fuse' overwrites defaults (empty).

3.

Setting up vim-tiny (2:7.3.280-1) ...
update-alternatives: warning: forcing reinstallation of alternative /usr/bin/vim.tiny because link group vi is broken.
update-alternatives: warning: forcing reinstallation of alternative /usr/bin/vim.tiny because link group view is broken.
update-alternatives: warning: forcing reinstallation of alternative /usr/bin/vim.tiny because link group ex is broken.

4.

Setting up linux-image-3.0.0-1-amd64 (3.0.0-1) ...
Running depmod.
Examining /etc/kernel/postinst.d.
run-parts: executing /etc/kernel/postinst.d/dkms 3.0.0-1-amd64 /boot/vmlinuz-3.0.0-1-amd64
dkms.conf: Error! No 'BUILT_MODULE_NAME' directive specified for record #0.
Error! Bad conf file.
File:
does not represent a valid dkms.conf file.
run-parts: executing /etc/kernel/postinst.d/initramfs-tools 3.0.0-1-amd64 /boot/vmlinuz-3.0.0-1-amd64

5.

Setting up fakeroot (1.17-1) ...
update-alternatives: warning: forcing reinstallation of alternative /usr/bin/fakeroot-sysv because link group fakeroot is broken.

6.

Setting up linux-headers-3.0.0-1-amd64 (3.0.0-1) ...
Examining /etc/kernel/header_postinst.d.
run-parts: executing /etc/kernel/header_postinst.d/dkms 3.0.0-1-amd64
dkms.conf: Error! No 'BUILT_MODULE_NAME' directive specified for record #0.
Error! Bad conf file.
File:
does not represent a valid dkms.conf file.

Once again, the system appears to be running fine once I'm logged into the desktop. The 3.0 kernel is installed, the 280 Nvida driver is installed, Compiz is working fine as well as VLC (both player and browser plugins in Firefox and Chrome) and LibreOffice and printing. Knowing how updating LMDE (or any other version of GNU/Linux) is not exactly what you might call, "perfectly sequential", I'm not too concerned about the above update "error" call outs. Doesn't hurt to post them though.

Not too sure about the boot up error I listed at the beginning of the post though. Anyone else seeing anything like that during boot up?

[Turris]

I changed my sources.list to reflect the new repo layout like this:

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deb http://packages.linuxmint.com/ debian main upstream import
deb http://debian.linuxmint.com/latest testing main contrib non-free
deb http://debian.linuxmint.com/latest/security testing/updates main contrib non-free
deb http://debian.linuxmint.com/latest/multimedia testing main non-free

When I run the update manager it get the follow error message:

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ERROR###ERROR###ERROR###ERROR###ERROR###ERROR###ERROR
W:Failed to fetch http://debian.linuxmint.com/latest/security/dists/testing/updates/main/binary-amd64/Packages  404  Not Found
, W:Failed to fetch http://debian.linuxmint.com/latest/security/dists/testing/updates/contrib/binary-amd64/Packages  404  Not Found
, W:Failed to fetch http://debian.linuxmint.com/latest/security/dists/testing/updates/non-free/binary-amd64/Packages  404  Not Found
, W:Failed to fetch http://debian.linuxmint.com/latest/multimedia/dists/testing/main/binary-amd64/Packages  404  Not Found
, W:Failed to fetch http://debian.linuxmint.com/latest/multimedia/dists/testing/non-free/binary-amd64/Packages  404  Not Found
, E:Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead.

My update manager got updated to 1.3 .

[wyrdoak]

Open terminal type the following commands.

sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade

See if that clears up your problem.

[Turris]

Open terminal type the following commands.

sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade

See if that clears up your problem.

Gives the same:

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W: Failed to fetch http://debian.linuxmint.com/latest/security/dists/testing/updates/main/binary-amd64/Packages  404  Not Found
W: Failed to fetch http://debian.linuxmint.com/latest/security/dists/testing/updates/contrib/binary-amd64/Packages  404  Not Found
W: Failed to fetch http://debian.linuxmint.com/latest/security/dists/testing/updates/non-free/binary-amd64/Packages  404  Not Found
W: Failed to fetch http://debian.linuxmint.com/latest/multimedia/dists/testing/main/binary-amd64/Packages  404  Not Found
W: Failed to fetch http://debian.linuxmint.com/latest/multimedia/dists/testing/non-free/binary-amd64/Packages  404  Not Found
E: Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead.

[Gerd50]

Turris, you have changed your sources.list to latest testing/security/multimedia. Until now i havn't seen green light for
doing it. Only the incoming latest/security/multimedia sources should be active now.

[Turris]

Turris, you have changed your sources.list to latest testing/security/multimedia. Until now i havn't seen green light for
doing it. Only the incoming latest/security/multimedia sources should be active now.

Ah. I've only followed http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.p ... 56#p444658 though.

Any idea how my sources.list should look right now to track the 'latest' repo?

[bikrus]

Any idea how my sources.list should look right now to track the 'latest' repo?

I think it should look like this:

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deb http://packages.linuxmint.com/ debian main upstream import backport
deb http://debian.linuxmint.com/latest testing main contrib non-free
deb http://security.debian.org/ testing/updates main contrib non-free
deb http://www.debian-multimedia.org testing main non-free

[Gerd50]

In this thread

http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?f=141&t=79533

i try to keep it up to date how sources.lists should look like. Point 1.1 in your case Turris.

[Turris]

In this thread

http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?f=141&t=79533

i try to keep it up to date how sources.lists should look like. Point 1.1 in your case Turris.

Thank you, I'll follow your thread instead!

[zerozero]

Turris, thank you for pointing out the issue and letting us know that atm security and multimedia still aren't mirrored in the mint repo;
i will change the posts according

[Gerd50]

Now what i really wanted to this morning, it's the deb-src thing.

zerozero wrote:
the only thing i see there that is not in the default installations are the deb-src (the sources are not enabled, although is very
easy to do so)

Since i'm using Linux i never understood what the deb-src's are good for. During all the time in more than two years now, there was
only one support question in another forum where the solution was to add deb-src's to the sources.list.

In a fresh installed LMDE with the 201009/201101 ISO the deb-src's are enabled and with the 201108 ISO you say they are disabled.
Do i think right, that it can't be bad to have them enabled? And i can leave it like it is here

http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?f=141&t=79533

in point 1.4 for the incoming latest repos?

[zerozero]

deb-src are really only needed if you are going to compile your own pkgs (what i believe most of the users won't), anyway it doesn't hurt have them there, they don't interfere, and one day you might feel the will to start compiling

[vicshrike]

have changed to mint repos a couple a weeks ago or so, nearly no updates, so I were thinking of changing back to testing, but today, hooray!!!!!!!!, am doing a 421 update happening atm, + a reboot and then we will see what happens

[Gerd50]

zerozero wrote:
deb-src are really only needed if you are going to compile your own pkgs

Thanks zerozero, but me and compiling...impossible. Therefor a miracle would have to happen

[kmb42vt]

Turris, thank you for pointing out the issue and letting us know that atm security and multimedia still aren't mirrored in the mint repo;
i will change the posts according

According to Clem's post there is no "latest" when it comes to 'security' and 'multimedia' coming under Mint's LMDE umbrella, only "incoming" for the moment which would make sense as he probably wants to test the "vetting" process for these updates as well. I expect that once he's satisfied the LMDE respin final will include the 'security' and 'multimedia' repos under "latest" as well.

[zerozero]

yeahh kmb, i was faster than the light there

[AlbertP]

I think security should stay an incoming repo, else people keep using a vulnerable system till the next Update Pack is there.

[kmb42vt]

yeahh kmb, i was faster than the light there

It's all due to wishful thinking I'm sure. Wishing that the final release and all that it entails is a rousing success and all that. Well...at least that sounds good anyway.

[kmb42vt]

I think security should stay an incoming repo, else people keep using a vulnerable system till the next Update Pack is there.

I absolutely agree. Even more than that, I think it would be wise to keep security updates outside of the Update Packs altogether. Keep them under LMDE's roof so to speak but make sure the security updates that come from "security.debian.org/ testing" are quickly tested for possible breakage and released as updates external to the monthly Update Packs. I'm thinking this could be put into place once the final is released with the 'latest' repos set as default.

[Turris]

I expect that once he's satisfied the LMDE respin final will include the 'security' and 'multimedia' repos under "latest" as well.

Really looking forward to having those repositories mirrored as well in latest, because of this: http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.p ... 03#p463666 .