We need more testers to the new incoming repo (how-to)

[posco]

zerozero, thanks for the concern. I have an integrated ATI radeon chip on my IBM T42 laptop.

[AlbertP]

ATI is often even later in supporting new X servers or kernels than nVidia.

[posco]

I tend to be selective on which upgrades to apply, and will do them in stages.

[zerozero]

I tend to be selective on which upgrades to apply, and will do them in stages.

YMMV of course, but that is not the best approach to deal with a rolling release, anyway, it's your system and you do with it what you want

[posco]

Took all the warnings on board, and moved to the Deb Testing repos.

Updated around 520 files, 480MB worth, and can say that all is well. xserver and linux-header files updated as well with no issues.

Only thing that I have noticed has changed is that the font is a bit clearer.

[xircon]

Glad you came through it OK, see you on the "tracking testing thread" I still have 44 packages held

[timh]

I tried the „latest“, then the „incoming“ but both are so quiet
now I switched back to „debian“ and get 34 packs new, so happy
only a view are on hold:

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Die folgenden Pakete sind zurückgehalten worden:
  foomatic-db-engine vlc vlc-nox vlc-plugin-notify vlc-plugin-pulse


my sources list I can play with :

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deb http://packages.linuxmint.com/ debian main upstream import
deb http://debian.linuxmint.com/incoming testing main contrib non-free
###deb http://debian.linuxmint.com/testing testing main contrib non-free
##  ersatz 3.10.11 duch mint resourcen
deb http://security.debian.org/ testing/updates main contrib non-free
###deb http://debian.linuxmint.com/incoming/security testing/updates main contrib non-free
###deb http://debian.linuxmint.com/testing/security testing/updates main contrib non-free
deb http://www.debian-multimedia.org testing main non-free
###deb http://debian.linuxmint.com/incoming/multimedia testing main non-free
###deb http://debian.linuxmint.com/testing/multimedia testing main non-free


my old Pentium - inxi say:

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System:    Host lmde Kernel 3.0.0-1-amd64 x86_64 (64 bit) Distro Linux Mint Debian Edition
CPU:       Dual core Intel Pentium D (-MCP-) cache 1024 KB flags (lm nx sse sse2 sse3) bmips 11998.6
           Clock Speeds: (1) 2800.00 MHz (2) 2800.00 MHz
Graphics:  Card nVidia NV43 [GeForce 6700 XL] X.Org 1.10.4 Res: 1280x1024@50.0hz
           GLX Renderer GeForce 6700 XL/PCI/SSE2 GLX Version 2.1.2 NVIDIA 280.13 Direct Rendering Yes
Audio:     Card Intel N10/ICH 7 Family High Definition Audio Controller driver HDA Intel BusID: 00:1b.0
           Sound: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture Version 1.0.24
Network:   Card-1 Realtek RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+ driver 8139too v: 0.9.28 at port ea00 BusID: 02:00.0
           Card-2 Realtek RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+ driver 8139too v: 0.9.28 at port ec00 BusID: 02:02.0
Disks:     HDD Total Size: 1250.3GB (15.0% used) 1: /dev/sda SAMSUNG_HD103SJ 1000.2GB 36C
           2: /dev/sdb ST3250823AS 250.1GB 39C
Partition: ID:/ size: 13G used: 8.4G (71%) fs: ext4 ID:/home size: 89G used: 37G (44%) fs: ext4
           ID:swap-1 size: 2.10GB used: 0.02GB (1%) fs: swap
Info:      Processes 179 Uptime 1 day Memory 1558.5/3021.8MB Runlevel 2 Client Shell inxi 1.4.23


living with firefox 7.0.1, thunderbird 7.0.1, claws-mail 3.7.9, compiz with plugins, ext4 & xfs, tried btrfs - this killed my home after hard boot a lot work to recover, so no more btrfs

♡LMDE runs great. Thanks to Clem & his team!

Only any browser & mail prog. sucking a lot of memory
easy up to > 200MB only Skype lives @ 45MB
Depends this of the 64bit?

[Gerd50]

Hi tmh,

for me your sources.list looks a little bit sick. Please take a look at this with all main sources included to play with and
compare it with your's

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deb http://packages.linuxmint.com/ debian main upstream import

deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian testing main contrib non-free
deb-src http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian testing main contrib non-free
deb http://security.debian.org/ testing/updates main contrib non-free
deb-src http://security.debian.org/ testing/updates main contrib non-free
deb http://www.debian-multimedia.org testing main non-free

# deb http://packages.linuxmint.com/ debian main upstream import backport romeo
# deb-src http://packages.linuxmint.com/ debian main upstream import backport romeo

# deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian unstable main contrib non-free
# deb-src http://ftp.debian.org/debian unstable main contrib non-free

# deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian experimental main contrib non-free
# deb-src http://ftp.debian.org/debian experimental main contrib non-free

# deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian stable main contrib non-free
# deb-src http://ftp.debian.org/debian stable main contrib non-free

# deb http://debian.linuxmint.com/incoming testing main contrib non-free
# deb-src http://debian.linuxmint.com/incoming testing main contrib non-free

# deb http://debian.linuxmint.com/incoming/security testing/updates main contrib non-free
# deb-src http://debian.linuxmint.com/incoming/security testing/updates main contrib non-free
# deb http://debian.linuxmint.com/incoming/multimedia testing main non-free

# deb http://debian.linuxmint.com/latest testing main contrib non-free
# deb-src http://debian.linuxmint.com/latest testing main contrib non-free

# deb http://debian.linuxmint.com/latest/security testing/updates main contrib non-free
# deb-src http://debian.linuxmint.com/latest/security testing/updates main contrib non-free
# deb http://debian.linuxmint.com/latest/multimedia testing main non-free

The deb src's you can ignore, they are for source codes only

[timh]

Hi tmh,

for me your sources.list looks a little bit sick. Please take a look at this with all main sources included to play with and
compare it with your's

Sorry, but I think they are OK
I use also 14 more, all working well.
LMDE is living on my PC since it came out only with some smaller problems.

So my repros should be healthy, but please correct me if you think there is a mistake.

Tim

[Gerd50]

Hi timh,

here is what i would correct:

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deb http://packages.linuxmint.com/ debian main upstream import
deb http://debian.linuxmint.com/incoming testing main contrib non-free
###deb http://debian.linuxmint.com/testing testing main contrib non-free !!!

(if inabled the double entry testing testing can't work. In the line over it you have incoming
testing and i think you want to have latest testing here)

##  ersatz 3.10.11 duch mint resourcen
deb http://security.debian.org/ testing/updates main contrib non-free
###deb http://debian.linuxmint.com/incoming/security testing/updates main contrib non-free
###deb http://debian.linuxmint.com/testing/security testing/updates main contrib non-free !!!

(the same here - /testing/security testing/ - should be /latest/security testing/ if i understand the logic of your list correctly)

deb http://www.debian-multimedia.org testing main non-free
###deb http://debian.linuxmint.com/incoming/multimedia testing main non-free
###deb http://debian.linuxmint.com/testing/multimedia testing main non-free !!!

(here i think you want to have /latest/multimedia testing)

You have this sources enabled and with it you mix linuxmint.com incoming with debian testing sources:

deb http://packages.linuxmint.com/ debian main upstream import
deb http://debian.linuxmint.com/incoming testing main contrib non-free
deb http://security.debian.org/ testing/updates main contrib non-free
deb http://www.debian-multimedia.org testing main non-free

incoming testing is freezed since the end of August and the debian sources enabled can cause problems with
dependencies the longer incoming is freezed.

If you want fully working debian testing repos it should look like this:

deb http://packages.linuxmint.com/ debian main upstream import
deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian testing main contrib non-free
deb http://security.debian.org/ testing/updates main contrib non-free
deb http://www.debian-multimedia.org testing main non-free

[timh]

You have this sources enabled and with it you mix linuxmint.com incoming with debian testing sources:

deb http://packages.linuxmint.com/ debian main upstream import
deb http://debian.linuxmint.com/incoming testing main contrib non-free

incoming testing is freezed since the end of August and the debian sources enabled can cause problems with
dependencies the longer incoming is freezed.

Thank you - now I switch from

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deb http://debian.linuxmint.com/incoming testing main contrib non-free

to

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deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian testing main contrib non-free

I don't know incoming is frozen, that's the reason claws-mail is not updating to 3.7.10
So I stay with Debian testing to get faster my updates.I use always :

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sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get dist-upgrade

so I have no problem with MintUpdate
Thank you & a nice weekend

[ppsalama]

Hello
I followed this instructions

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gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list

and change your sources.list to

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 deb http://packages.linuxmint.com/ debian main upstream import
 deb http://debian.linuxmint.com/incoming testing main contrib non-free
deb http://debian.linuxmint.com/incoming/security testing/updates main contrib non-free
deb http://debian.linuxmint.com/incoming/multimedia testing main non-free


now grab the new mintupdate-debian (it will ask to remove the old mintupdate, mint-meta-common and mint-meta-debian)

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sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install mintupdate-debian

but no updates (no new packages... blank screen in mintupdate)
Can you tell you what to do?
Thanks

[AlbertP]

There aren't much updates to LMDE at the moment. Debian is in progress of switching to Gnome 3 and Mint won't ship a half-baked Gnome 3 desktop with Gnome 2 relics in an update pack. Update packs last much longer than a Debian package which can be replaced within a few days so Gnome 3 has to be working stable.

[zerozero]

hi ppsalama,
i saw from previous posts of yours that you were (until now) running LMDE pointing at latest and fully updated (i presume), with UP3 installed;
if that's the situation, at the moment, switch to incoming won't give you any new updates:
- incoming is in all similar to latest with the exception that arrives a few days earlier to test the quality and the possible breakages of the future UP.

[ppsalama]

hi ppsalama,
i saw from previous posts of yours that you were (until now) running LMDE pointing at latest and fully updated (i presume), with UP3 installed;
if that's the situation, at the moment, switch to incoming won't give you any new updates:
- incoming is in all similar to latest with the exception that arrives a few days earlier to test the quality and the possible breakages of the future UP.

Your're right.
Thank you very much, now I understand it
best regards

[timber]

Hi Zz,

You've helped me resolve my nvidia problem (in this recent post) so I should return the favor. I'll gladly be one of your guinea pigs for the Incoming repo.

1) I have a designated partition to Incoming testing now.
2) Edited my sources to point to the incoming repo then grabbed the new mintupdate-debian.
I should be good to go ... as expected no changes as of today when I checked via the Update Manager.

Although I am familiar with Linux Mint and LMDE I consider myself a newbie so can give you feedback from this perspective.
Hope it's helpful.

edited: (to stay on topic)

[zerozero]

Dave
UP4 is just around the corner and brings some interesting stuff (gnome-shell, cinnamon, mate)

it took awhile but it's going to be worthy

[whirly]

good news
thanks for the tip zerozero

[timber]

Ah ... so we Git to see some Mutter Clutter while we eat our Cinnamon Muffin, eh Mate?

[elliotsagan]

Dave
UP4 is just around the corner and brings some interesting stuff (gnome-shell, cinnamon, mate)

it took awhile but it's going to be worthy

Hi zerozero!
LMDE is for me the best Linux distro I've ever tried. The way LMDE is today it is superb: stable, productive, fast, elegant, clean GUI... what more a linux user could wish?
But for any means I ever never will try the Gnome hell.... If UP4 is just around the corner simply I will not apply.

Gnome project has take a direction that I do not want to follow, either. I am a desktop user, administering a modest 6 pcs home network.... and I do not need touchscreen techs or other things alike aiming the smart(?)phone world.
Cheers