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"Faux" Grub 2 SUX! Questions, Questions ......

Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2012 2:34 pm
by bootmakr
Before Grub 2, there was the Real Grub - the user-friendly Grub (probably called Legacy Grub now .... ). When I ran distros that had Real Grub, I was able to edit my Grub with no problems (/boot/grub/menu.list) - 1 Grub/1 file :!: Now, from what I read, they've done away with the user-friendly Real Grub file and gone to several different files to be able to edit or see what's happening with your Grub entries (i.e. /etc/default/grub, /boot/grub/grub.cfg, /etc/grub.d/40_custom etc.) . I don't know whose "better idea" this was, but this SUX! There was NOTHING wrong with the old Grub AFAICS, it worked fine for years - if it ain't broke, don't fix it! :roll: :roll: I, for one, would like to go back to the 1 file Real Grub, where I can add/edit/delete/mess around with the Grub file myself, but I suppose that's impossible. I would prefer not to have to tell one file to tell another file to tell yet another file what I want done. I've got a couple of entries in my new LMDE Grub 2 splash that I would like to get rid of, another I'd like to give the true name of the distro to, etc., but after reading several of the threads here that deal with Grub, I'm still in the dark! So, what file do I gotta go to so I can get rid of the extra entries and change the name of the mystery distro to the proper name. I'd post my Grub splash, but I haven't been able to find whichever file it's hidden in! Rest assured, I will be Googling to find the answers, but there's always the possibilities that there are others with the same problems and would like answers as well. :? :?

PS: If Linux devs (in this case, Grub devs) want to make it easier for M$ users to convert to Linux, you would think that they would want to make things easier for the end-user, not revert to the 1990's where everything had to be done at the terminal "geek-style" to make a change or two! Just sayin .......

Re: "Faux" Grub 2 SUX! Questions, Questions ......

Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2012 3:32 pm
by Roken
You can go back to grub legacy if you want - see here http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.p ... cy#p269710

To answer your specific question, you can completely disable entries in grub 2 by editing /boot/grub/grub.cfg. However, direct editing of this file is not encouraged and if you get it wrong you can leave yourself with a non-booting system, so at your own risk.

Re: "Faux" Grub 2 SUX! Questions, Questions ......

Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2012 4:25 pm
by xenopeek
This topic may of information: http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.p ... 65#p525413

The GRUB Customiser referred to by GeneC is easy for Linux Mint main edition users, but you will have to download the source from Launchpad if you use LMDE. (And compile it from source.)

You may also switch to BURG as an alternative to GRUB: http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.p ... 9&p=467785

Re: "Faux" Grub 2 SUX! Questions, Questions ......

Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2012 4:28 pm
by Brian49

Re: "Faux" Grub 2 SUX! Questions, Questions ......

Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2012 4:34 pm
by xenopeek
Brian49 wrote:This may also be of interest:

http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.p ... er#p486793
Hey :D Thanks! Adding that to the bookmarks...

Re: "Faux" Grub 2 SUX! Questions, Questions ......

Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2012 1:43 pm
by bootmakr
Thanks for those links - I'll look into them all. I've also got some info about creating a separate partition for Grub - there I can edit to my heart's content :lol:

I do believe that Legacy 'Real' Grub is the only way to go for me. I think if I were smart enough to create a distro of my own, I would design it with Legacy Grub. If someone forked Legacy Grub, many people would use it rather than the new, useless, more complicated Grub2. Anything can use improvements, nothing's perfect, but this Grub2 change to several different files, etc., is more than is necessary - I've not seen any great improvement over the Real Grub!
JMHO

Re: "Faux" Grub 2 SUX! Questions, Questions ......

Posted: Thu Apr 18, 2013 12:42 am
by angelinaniki88
xenopeek wrote:This topic may of information: http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.p ... 65#p525413

The GRUB Customiser referred to by GeneC is easy for Linux Mint main edition users, but you will have to download the source from Launchpad if you use LMDE. (And compile it from source.)

You may also switch to BURG as an alternative to GRUB: http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.p ... 9&p=467785
hmm this is a very much nice info dude thanks for sharing such a really very nice info. 8)
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