No updates within 5 weeks?

[simplex]

Hello,

I have installed LMDE 5 weeks ago or so, and I wonder that I have not received any update of any package in this time. Is this normal, or am I doing something wrong?

Greetings,
s.

[xenopeek]

That's normal; you get updates in one go when a new update pack is released. For more background; see the LMDE FAQ: viewtopic.php?f=197&t=91405.

[killer de bug]

After the installation, did you upgraded your system ?

If not, you installed LMDE + UP4. Check your sources.list file, you're likely missing 2 UP.
If you did an upgrade, then it's fine !

[simplex]

No, the problem was a complete different one. As zerozero pointed out in

viewtopic.php?f=217&t=120139#p669483

I did not install LMDE, I installed Linux Mint Julia. This must have happened by a mistake of Yumi/Penndrive. I have no other explanation. I thoght, I had LMDE, but I hadn't!

Today, I installed the real LMDE and I get more then 1200 updates at once.

Still there is a little problem. The update manager says that some repositories are not online any more or currently not available.

S.

[zerozero]

simplex,
can you please post the output of

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inxi -Sr

and also

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apt update && apt dist-upgrade

[simplex]

OK, here it is. But i must warn you:

1) The output is mainly in German.
2) Today seems a bad day for updates. Some of the servers seem to be down. I noticed this 2h ago, when I tried to update my "normal" Linux Mint 13. Everything concerning "Translation" is not working properly, see below. ("Fehl" = pseudo-German for "fail" )

PS: Don't you think that the commands you gave me have to be listed in the installation instruction for LMDE? A dist-upgrade should be performed after installation??? Really?

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ziegler@nc10:~$     inxi -Sr
System:    Host nc10 Kernel 3.2.0-4-486 i686 (32 bit) Distro Linux Mint Debian Edition
Repos:     Active apt sources in file: /etc/apt/sources.list
           deb http://packages.linuxmint.com/ debian main upstream import
           deb http://lmde-mirror.gwendallebihan.net/latest testing main contrib non-free
           deb http://lmde-mirror.gwendallebihan.net/latest/security testing/updates main contrib non-free
           deb http://lmde-mirror.gwendallebihan.net/latest/multimedia testing main non-free

ziegler@nc10:~$     apt update && apt dist-upgrade
[sudo] password for ziegler:
OK   http://lmde-mirror.gwendallebihan.net testing InRelease
OK   http://lmde-mirror.gwendallebihan.net testing/updates InRelease           
OK   http://lmde-mirror.gwendallebihan.net testing InRelease                   
OK   http://lmde-mirror.gwendallebihan.net testing/main i386 Packages/DiffIndex
Ign http://packages.linuxmint.com debian InRelease                             
OK   http://lmde-mirror.gwendallebihan.net testing/contrib i386 Packages/DiffIndex
OK   http://lmde-mirror.gwendallebihan.net testing/non-free i386 Packages/DiffIndex
OK   http://lmde-mirror.gwendallebihan.net testing/contrib Translation-en/DiffIndex
OK   http://lmde-mirror.gwendallebihan.net testing/main Translation-de_DE     
OK   http://lmde-mirror.gwendallebihan.net testing/main Translation-de/DiffIndex
Holen: 1 http://packages.linuxmint.com debian Release.gpg [197 B]
OK   http://lmde-mirror.gwendallebihan.net testing/main Translation-en/DiffIndex
OK   http://lmde-mirror.gwendallebihan.net testing/non-free Translation-en/DiffIndex
OK   http://lmde-mirror.gwendallebihan.net testing/updates/main i386 Packages
OK   http://lmde-mirror.gwendallebihan.net testing/updates/contrib i386 Packages
OK   http://lmde-mirror.gwendallebihan.net testing/updates/non-free i386 Packages
OK   http://lmde-mirror.gwendallebihan.net testing/main i386 Packages/DiffIndex
OK   http://lmde-mirror.gwendallebihan.net testing/non-free i386 Packages/DiffIndex
Holen: 2 http://packages.linuxmint.com debian Release [15,6 kB]               
Ign http://lmde-mirror.gwendallebihan.net testing/updates/contrib Translation-de_DE
Ign http://lmde-mirror.gwendallebihan.net testing/updates/contrib Translation-de
Ign http://lmde-mirror.gwendallebihan.net testing/updates/contrib Translation-en
Ign http://lmde-mirror.gwendallebihan.net testing/updates/main Translation-de_DE
Ign http://lmde-mirror.gwendallebihan.net testing/updates/main Translation-de 
Ign http://lmde-mirror.gwendallebihan.net testing/updates/main Translation-en 
Ign http://lmde-mirror.gwendallebihan.net testing/updates/non-free Translation-de_DE
Ign http://lmde-mirror.gwendallebihan.net testing/updates/non-free Translation-de
Ign http://lmde-mirror.gwendallebihan.net testing/updates/non-free Translation-en
Ign http://lmde-mirror.gwendallebihan.net testing/main Translation-de_DE       
Ign http://lmde-mirror.gwendallebihan.net testing/main Translation-de         
Ign http://lmde-mirror.gwendallebihan.net testing/main Translation-en         
Ign http://lmde-mirror.gwendallebihan.net testing/non-free Translation-de_DE   
Ign http://lmde-mirror.gwendallebihan.net testing/non-free Translation-de     
Ign http://lmde-mirror.gwendallebihan.net testing/non-free Translation-en     
Holen: 3 http://packages.linuxmint.com debian/main i386 Packages [19,8 kB]     
Holen: 4 http://packages.linuxmint.com debian/upstream i386 Packages [5.383 B]
Holen: 5 http://packages.linuxmint.com debian/import i386 Packages [62,8 kB]   
Fehl http://packages.linuxmint.com debian/import Translation-de_DE             
  Verbindung mit packages.linuxmint.com:http nicht möglich:
Fehl http://packages.linuxmint.com debian/import Translation-de
  Verbindung mit packages.linuxmint.com:http nicht möglich:
Fehl http://packages.linuxmint.com debian/import Translation-en
  Verbindung mit packages.linuxmint.com:http nicht möglich:
Fehl http://packages.linuxmint.com debian/main Translation-de_DE
  Verbindung mit packages.linuxmint.com:http nicht möglich:
Fehl http://packages.linuxmint.com debian/main Translation-de
  Verbindung mit packages.linuxmint.com:http nicht möglich:
Fehl http://packages.linuxmint.com debian/main Translation-en
  Verbindung mit packages.linuxmint.com:http nicht möglich:
Fehl http://packages.linuxmint.com debian/upstream Translation-de_DE
  Verbindung mit packages.linuxmint.com:http nicht möglich:
Fehl http://packages.linuxmint.com debian/upstream Translation-de
  Verbindung mit packages.linuxmint.com:http nicht möglich:
Fehl http://packages.linuxmint.com debian/upstream Translation-en
  Verbindung mit packages.linuxmint.com:http nicht möglich:
Es wurden 104 kB in 2 min 30 s geholt (691 B/s).
W: Fehlschlag beim Holen von http://packages.linuxmint.com/dists/debian/import/i18n/Translation-de_DE  Verbindung mit packages.linuxmint.com:http nicht möglich:

W: Fehlschlag beim Holen von http://packages.linuxmint.com/dists/debian/import/i18n/Translation-de  Verbindung mit packages.linuxmint.com:http nicht möglich:

W: Fehlschlag beim Holen von http://packages.linuxmint.com/dists/debian/import/i18n/Translation-en  Verbindung mit packages.linuxmint.com:http nicht möglich:

W: Fehlschlag beim Holen von http://packages.linuxmint.com/dists/debian/main/i18n/Translation-de_DE  Verbindung mit packages.linuxmint.com:http nicht möglich:

W: Fehlschlag beim Holen von http://packages.linuxmint.com/dists/debian/main/i18n/Translation-de  Verbindung mit packages.linuxmint.com:http nicht möglich:

W: Fehlschlag beim Holen von http://packages.linuxmint.com/dists/debian/main/i18n/Translation-en  Verbindung mit packages.linuxmint.com:http nicht möglich:

W: Fehlschlag beim Holen von http://packages.linuxmint.com/dists/debian/upstream/i18n/Translation-de_DE  Verbindung mit packages.linuxmint.com:http nicht möglich:

W: Fehlschlag beim Holen von http://packages.linuxmint.com/dists/debian/upstream/i18n/Translation-de  Verbindung mit packages.linuxmint.com:http nicht möglich:

W: Fehlschlag beim Holen von http://packages.linuxmint.com/dists/debian/upstream/i18n/Translation-en  Verbindung mit packages.linuxmint.com:http nicht möglich:

E: Einige Indexdateien konnten nicht heruntergeladen werden. Sie wurden ignoriert oder alte an ihrer Stelle benutzt.
Paketlisten werden gelesen... Fertig
Abhängigkeitsbaum wird aufgebaut.       
Statusinformationen werden eingelesen.... Fertig
Paketaktualisierung (Upgrade) wird berechnet... Fertig
Die folgenden NEUEN Pakete werden installiert:
  libatk-adaptor-data libatk-bridge2.0-0
Die folgenden Pakete sind zurückgehalten worden:
  python-pyatspi2
0 aktualisiert, 2 neu installiert, 0 zu entfernen und 1 nicht aktualisiert.
Es müssen 82,9 kB an Archiven heruntergeladen werden.
Nach dieser Operation werden 879 kB Plattenplatz zusätzlich benutzt.
Möchten Sie fortfahren [J/n]? j
Holen: 1 http://lmde-mirror.gwendallebihan.net/latest/ testing/main libatk-bridge2.0-0 i386 2.5.3-2 [61,1 kB]
Holen: 2 http://lmde-mirror.gwendallebihan.net/latest/ testing/main libatk-adaptor-data i386 2.5.3-2 [21,7 kB]
Es wurden 82,9 kB in 0 s geholt (179 kB/s).   
Vormals nicht ausgewähltes Paket libatk-bridge2.0-0:i386 wird gewählt.
(Lese Datenbank ... 201306 Dateien und Verzeichnisse sind derzeit installiert.)
Entpacken von libatk-bridge2.0-0:i386 (aus .../libatk-bridge2.0-0_2.5.3-2_i386.deb) ...
Vormals nicht ausgewähltes Paket libatk-adaptor-data wird gewählt.
Entpacken von libatk-adaptor-data (aus .../libatk-adaptor-data_2.5.3-2_i386.deb) ...
Trigger für libglib2.0-0:i386 werden verarbeitet ...
libatk-bridge2.0-0:i386 (2.5.3-2) wird eingerichtet ...
libatk-adaptor-data (2.5.3-2) wird eingerichtet ...
ziegler@nc10:~$


[xenopeek]

You can produce the output in English easily. Run the commands as such:

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LANG=C apt update
LANG=C apt dist-upgrade

[simplex]

Thank you for this hint. I will apply it in the future. Now the update is done...

[simplex]

I still got problems with updating my system. There is something wrong with the language translation packages. The same problem arises not only in LMDE, but also in my installation of "Normal" Linux Mint 13. What am I doing wrong?

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root@nc10:~# LANG=C apt-get update
[...correct updates left out...]
Get:5 http://packages.linuxmint.com debian/import i386 Packages [62.8 kB]     
Err http://packages.linuxmint.com debian/import Translation-en                 
  Unable to connect to packages.linuxmint.com:http:
Err http://packages.linuxmint.com debian/import Translation-de_DE
  Unable to connect to packages.linuxmint.com:http:
Err http://packages.linuxmint.com debian/import Translation-de
  Unable to connect to packages.linuxmint.com:http:
Err http://packages.linuxmint.com debian/main Translation-en
  Unable to connect to packages.linuxmint.com:http:
Err http://packages.linuxmint.com debian/main Translation-de_DE
  Unable to connect to packages.linuxmint.com:http:
Err http://packages.linuxmint.com debian/main Translation-de
  Unable to connect to packages.linuxmint.com:http:
Err http://packages.linuxmint.com debian/upstream Translation-en
  Unable to connect to packages.linuxmint.com:http:
Err http://packages.linuxmint.com debian/upstream Translation-de_DE
  Unable to connect to packages.linuxmint.com:http:
Err http://packages.linuxmint.com debian/upstream Translation-de
  Unable to connect to packages.linuxmint.com:http:
Fetched 104 kB in 2min 6s (822 B/s)
W: Failed to fetch http://packages.linuxmint.com/dists/debian/import/i18n/Translation-en  Unable to connect to packages.linuxmint.com:http:

W: Failed to fetch http://packages.linuxmint.com/dists/debian/import/i18n/Translation-de_DE  Unable to connect to packages.linuxmint.com:http:

W: Failed to fetch http://packages.linuxmint.com/dists/debian/import/i18n/Translation-de  Unable to connect to packages.linuxmint.com:http:

W: Failed to fetch http://packages.linuxmint.com/dists/debian/main/i18n/Translation-en  Unable to connect to packages.linuxmint.com:http:

W: Failed to fetch http://packages.linuxmint.com/dists/debian/main/i18n/Translation-de_DE  Unable to connect to packages.linuxmint.com:http:

W: Failed to fetch http://packages.linuxmint.com/dists/debian/main/i18n/Translation-de  Unable to connect to packages.linuxmint.com:http:

W: Failed to fetch http://packages.linuxmint.com/dists/debian/upstream/i18n/Translation-en  Unable to connect to packages.linuxmint.com:http:

W: Failed to fetch http://packages.linuxmint.com/dists/debian/upstream/i18n/Translation-de_DE  Unable to connect to packages.linuxmint.com:http:

W: Failed to fetch http://packages.linuxmint.com/dists/debian/upstream/i18n/Translation-de  Unable to connect to packages.linuxmint.com:http:

E: Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead.


BTW, what is this strange bash syntax

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# LANG=C apt-get update

First an assignment and then a command? After 25 years of Unix have I overlooked something in basic shell syntax?

Greetings,
S.

[zerozero]

simplex
you are having problems connecting to packages.linuxmint because the servers are slow. follow this guide to pick a faster server >> viewtopic.php?f=90&t=122213

[Orbmiser]

Error: Translation-en

Yep ignore those as also get them on Mint 14 cinnamon. And somebody mentioned it was some kind of mis-configuration? or bug?

Tho would like to disable them as get about a dozen of those every time I update.
But appears there is no way to disable them?
And adds another min. or two to the update process.
.

[simplex]

I followed zerozero's advice and executed

# mint-choose-debian-mirror

as described on viewtopic.php?f=185&t=112047
I selected the (currently) fastest server (somewhere in Italy, I dwell in Germany) and wooosh - I got an update without error messages.

S.

[xenopeek]

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# LANG=C apt-get update

First an assignment and then a command? After 25 years of Unix have I overlooked something in basic shell syntax?

Yes, you can can prefix a command with a parameter assignment which will affect the environment for that command only. http://www.gnu.org/software/bash/manual ... nvironment

Had you overlooked it? I don't think so, I'd call the above an obfuscated manual... I've seen it used a few times, and it stuck somewhere in my mind and I managed to recall it now

[simplex]

Thank you, xenopeek. This reminds me of my French course in school: "On n'a jamais fini d'apprendre" ("One has never stopped learning").

And yes, it's an obfuscated manual. I was able to find the LANG-variable on http://www.gnu.org/software/bash/manual ... -Variables, but I did not find where the value "C" comes from and why it stands for the English language or for the locale (which would be German in my case):

LANG
Used to determine the locale category for any category not specifically selected with a variable starting with LC_.

S.

[xenopeek]

Defined in the GNU C Library: http://www.gnu.org/software/libc/manual ... rd-Locales. The "C" locale is the default locale for programs, meaning English. If you have set a different locale (which most users will), that will be used by any program that has support for that language. With this prefix you force it back to the program's default.

And from another entry here, http://www.gnu.org/software/libc/manual ... Categories, I think it should instead be:

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LC_ALL=C