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Re: Browser recommendation

Postby secipolla on Sun Oct 03, 2010 7:06 pm

I think that for some reason, javascript was disabled in my locally built midori so speed dial couldn't show up.
Now that I played a while with the installed package from frickelplatz.de, the locally built one has speed dial working.
BTW, one of midori's extensions does just that, quickly enabling/disabling images, javascript and plugins for a page.
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Re: Browser recommendation

Postby anamnesis on Mon Oct 04, 2010 10:10 am

ukbrian wrote:I just couldn't live without the Speed Dial add-on in Firefox
screen dump http://lin.me.uk/pics/speed-dial.png
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spead dial is implemented in midori >= 0.2.6. Just click on the shiny yellow icon on the very left. :)
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Re: Browser recommendation

Postby anamnesis on Mon Oct 04, 2010 10:42 am

secipolla wrote:BTW, Midori renders this forum much better than Firefox. It seems to render fonts smoother all around. In this forum they're larger but in gmail they're tinier.
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ACK. What I really also like: it's developed by one talented programer and his partner. She likes Japanese cooking, and the name midori (japanese language=green) came up. I like the attitude. Maybe it's a bit pathetic, but here, in something like midori, the old spirit of open source is still alive.
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Re: Browser recommendation

Postby ukbrian on Mon Oct 04, 2010 10:51 am

spead dial is implemented in midori >= 0.2.6. Just click on the shiny yellow icon on the very left. :)

I loaded it but was unable to create multiple tabs/groups as I do with the Firefox add-on. I run with 21 tabs with 42 dials on each so that's 882 dials I have available. animation http://lin.me.uk/pics/anim-sd.gif
I seemed to be restricted to one page of dials with Midori but I expect it's me not configuring it correctly. :oops:
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Re: Browser recommendation

Postby anamnesis on Mon Oct 04, 2010 12:59 pm

ukbrian wrote:
spead dial is implemented in midori >= 0.2.6. Just click on the shiny yellow icon on the very left. :)

I loaded it but was unable to create multiple tabs/groups as I do with the Firefox add-on. I run with 21 tabs with 42 dials on each so that's 882 dials I have available.
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Impressive. Say, is that a "speed dial" or does it take ages to find the right botton?
Just curious
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Re: Browser recommendation

Postby chi-kitory on Mon Oct 04, 2010 1:12 pm

i personally rather see people use Links
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Re: Browser recommendation

Postby ukbrian on Mon Oct 04, 2010 2:04 pm

Impressive. Say, is that a "speed dial" or does it take ages to find the right botton?
Just curious
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I just right click on a web page to create a dial.
You can't search your dials for text at the moment, you have got to remember where you put them but you can drag n drop from one group to another or drag bookmarks into a dial, you can launch apps or gadgets from a dial.
I helped the guy with the GUI a bit at the start and I've watched him add to it the last two years, he knows his onions when it comes to coding, he started with a good base he could expand from without hitting brick walls.
It's become an essential for me, I'm just amazed the Mozilla devs have not picked up on it and built something similar into Firefox.
It really is worth looking at, there's a video of the basics at http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?f=141&t=56180

His next big upgrade is to sync your diald in the cloud like xmarks, I think he's using Weave to do it.
At the moment I use FEBE to backup my profile into a Dropbox folder which works OK on multiple machines.
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Re: Browser recommendation

Postby secipolla on Tue Oct 05, 2010 9:28 am

Hello, ukbrian.
Midori is a nice alternative browser with nice features but of course it can't compare with Firefox when it comes to add-ons (I think no browser can).
Regarding the spped dial add-on not being incorporated in FF I think that's the way things should be, as long as the add-on works well then keep it as an add-on. That's what makes FF such a powerful and customizable browser.
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Re: Browser recommendation

Postby ukbrian on Tue Oct 05, 2010 12:20 pm

secipolla wrote:Hello, ukbrian.
Midori is a nice alternative browser with nice features but of course it can't compare with Firefox when it comes to add-ons (I think no browser can).

I agree with you, there is no one browser that is perfect for all it depends on the users needs, in my case I'm a mouse man and I want to be able to see and click on links, others spend most of their time on a keyboard and access links that way.
Regarding the speed dial add-on not being incorporated in FF I think that's the way things should be, as long as the add-on works well then keep it as an add-on. That's what makes FF such a powerful and customizable browser

Firefox generally integrates the worthwhile (lacking the word to describe them) add-ons, a case in point is an add-on I have used for many years,Compact Menu 2, that is incorporated into the next version and I'm very pleased to see them using the top line of the window at last as Songbird shows and the Maxthon Asian clone of IE has been doing for quite sometime.Image
But I prefer putting file,edit, controls etc as a drop down from an icon or in my case I just use the text "Menu" and that means soon I will be able to put my nav bar on the top line with no waste of real estate by the windows title bar.
This is just a mockup of what I want that I want in Paint Shop Pro 5 :lol: Image
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Re: Browser recommendation

Postby mikhou on Wed Oct 06, 2010 1:33 pm

Having played with Midori a bit (albeit very briefly), I'll stick with Chromium as my mainstay. In a browser, the most important features for me are speed, rss links, speed, tabbed browsing, and speed. (Did I mention speed?) Anything that doesn't render well in Chromium usually does so in Firefox. And if I am downloading something large, I'll jump over to Firefox just to be able to use DownThemAll as a download manager as I live in a part of the world where internet is not very consistent and I can lose it at anytime. DTA allows me to pick it back up where it left off.

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Re: Browser recommendation

Postby leonbnu on Wed Oct 06, 2010 4:32 pm

I just installed Midori 0.2.7. It does seem to render the fonts nicer. But it seems to use too much CPU, especially when it's rendering a new page, not very responsive.
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Re: Browser recommendation

Postby anamnesis on Thu Oct 07, 2010 2:43 am

leonbnu wrote:I just installed Midori 0.2.7. It does seem to render the fonts nicer. But it seems to use too much CPU, especially when it's rendering a new page, not very responsive.


0.2.8 is another step forward. It's in the frickelplatz-repo.
deb http://frickelplatz.de/debian/ sid main non-free contrib
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Re: Browser recommendation

Postby z06gal on Thu Oct 07, 2010 9:52 pm

I have not tried another since trying Iron. Great browser in my opinion.
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Re: Browser recommendation

Postby anamnesis on Fri Oct 08, 2010 2:26 am

z06gal wrote:I have not tried another since trying Iron. Great browser in my opinion.


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Re: Browser recommendation

Postby SteveHoffmanUK on Fri Oct 08, 2010 6:58 am

kei84 wrote:
Which version of Midori are using? Did you compile, use Synaptic or deb package?
I use Midori 0.2.6 + couple of scripts like Flaskblock and works great.


I am using the version in the LMDE repos, in other words, I'm just doing a straight install from the LMDE package manager. I am far too much of a newbie to do anything clever like compiling!

When I try to run it from the terminal I get this:

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steve@kt600-8237-desktop ~ $ midori
*** glibc detected *** midori: free(): invalid pointer: 0x09bd5d18 ***
======= Backtrace: =========
/lib/i686/cmov/libc.so.6(+0x6b281)[0xb5d75281]
/lib/i686/cmov/libc.so.6(+0x6cad8)[0xb5d76ad8]
/lib/i686/cmov/libc.so.6(cfree+0x6d)[0xb5d79bbd]
/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0(g_free+0x36)[0xb7074c56]
midori(main+0x117d)[0x8063eb4]
/lib/i686/cmov/libc.so.6(__libc_start_main+0xe6)[0xb5d20c76]
midori[0x805f8f1]
======= Memory map: ========
08048000-080c7000 r-xp 00000000 08:08 284137     /usr/bin/midori
080c7000-080c9000 rw-p 0007e000 08:08 284137     /usr/bin/midori
09b0f000-09bd7000 rw-p 00000000 00:00 0          [heap]
b2d00000-b2d21000 rw-p 00000000 00:00 0
b2d21000-b2e00000 ---p 00000000 00:00 0
b2e8a000-b2ea1000 r--s 00000000 08:08 292729     /var/lib/aspell/en_GB-ise-wo_accents-only.rws
b2ea1000-b3129000 r--s 00000000 08:08 292721     /var/lib/aspell/en-common.rws
b3129000-b31bf000 r-xp 00000000 08:08 273007     /usr/lib/libaspell.so.15.1.4
b31bf000-b31c3000 rw-p 00095000 08:08 273007     /usr/lib/libaspell.so.15.1.4
b31c3000-b31c7000 rw-p 00000000 00:00 0
b31d9000-b31e1000 r-xp 00000000 08:08 275400     /usr/lib/enchant/libenchant_hspell.so
b31e1000-b31e3000 rw-p 00008000 08:08 275400     /usr/lib/enchant/libenchant_hspell.so
b31e3000-b3223000 r-xp 00000000 08:08 273598     /usr/lib/libhunspell-1.2.so.0.0.0
b3223000-b3227000 rw-p 00040000 08:08 273598     /usr/lib/libhunspell-1.2.so.0.0.0
b322a000-b322c000 r-xp 00000000 08:08 275399     /usr/lib/enchant/libenchant_aspell.so
b322c000-b322d000 rw-p 00001000 08:08 275399     /usr/lib/enchant/libenchant_aspell.so
b322d000-b3238000 r-xp 00000000 08:08 275401     /usr/lib/enchant/libenchant_ispell.so
b3238000-b3239000 rw-p 0000a000 08:08 275401     /usr/lib/enchant/libenchant_ispell.so
b3239000-b323d000 r-xp 00000000 08:08 275402     /usr/lib/enchant/libenchant_myspell.so
b323d000-b323e000 rw-p 00003000 08:08 275402     /usr/lib/enchant/libenchant_myspell.so
b323e000-b3249000 r--p 00000000 08:08 5294       /usr/share/locale/en_GB/LC_MESSAGES/glib20.mo
b3249000-b324d000 r--p 00000000 08:08 4210       /usr/share/locale/en_GB/LC_MESSAGES/webkit.mo
b324d000-b324e000 ---p 00000000 00:00 0
b324e000-b3b6e000 rw-p 00000000 00:00 0
b3b6e000-b3b6f000 ---p 00000000 00:00 0
b3b6f000-b436f000 rw-p 00000000 00:00 0
b436f000-b4389000 r-xp 00000000 08:08 277170     /usr/lib/gtk-2.0/2.10.0/engines/libaurora.so
b4389000-b438a000 rw-p 00019000 08:08 277170     /usr/lib/gtk-2.0/2.10.0/engines/libaurora.so
b438a000-b4391000 r-xp 00000000 08:08 273696     /usr/lib/libltdl.so.7.2.1
b4391000-b4392000 rw-p 00007000 08:08 273696     /usr/lib/libltdl.so.7.2.1
b4392000-b439f000 r-xp 00000000 08:08 274032     /usr/lib/libtdb.so.1.2.1
b439f000-b43a0000 rw-p 0000c000 08:08 274032     /usr/lib/libtdb.so.1.2.1
b43a0000-b43c7000 r-xp 00000000 08:08 274104     /usr/lib/libvorbis.so.0.4.4
b43c7000-b43c8000 rw-p 00026000 08:08 274104     /usr/lib/libvorbis.so.0.4.4
b43c8000-b43cf000 r-xp 00000000 08:08 274108     /usr/lib/libvorbisfile.so.3.3.2
b43cf000-b43d0000 rw-p 00006000 08:08 274108     /usr/lib/libvorbisfile.so.3.3.2
b43d0000-b43de000 r-xp 00000000 08:08 273090     /usr/lib/libcanberra.so.0.2.3
b43de000-b43df000 rw-p 0000e000 08:08 273090     /usr/lib/libcanberra.so.0.2.3
b43e1000-b43f1000 rw-p 00000000 00:00 0
b43f1000-b4417000 r--p 00000000 08:08 5326       /usr/share/locale/en_GB/LC_MESSAGES/gtk20-properties.mo
b4417000-b4421000 r-xp 00000000 08:08 270818     /lib/i686/cmov/libnss_files-2.11.2.so
b4421000-b4422000 r--p 00009000 08:08 270818     /lib/i686/cmov/libnss_files-2.11.2.so
b4422000-b4423000 rw-p 0000a000 08:08 270818     /lib/i686/cmov/libnss_files-2.11.2.so
b4423000-b442b000 r-xp 00000000 08:08 264628     /lib/i686/cmov/libnss_nis-2.11.2.so
b442b000-b442c000 r--p 00008000 08:08 264628     /lib/i686/cmov/libnss_nis-2.11.2.so
b442c000-b442d000 rw-p 00009000 08:08 264628     /lib/i686/cmov/libnss_nis-2.11.2.so
b442d000-b4440000 r-xp 00000000 08:08 275926     /lib/i686/cmov/libnsl-2.11.2.so
b4440000-b4441000 r--p 00012000 08:08 275926     /lib/i686/cmov/libnsl-2.11.2.so
b4441000-b4442000 rw-p 00013000 08:08 275926     /lib/i686/cmov/libnsl-2.11.2.so
b4442000-b4444000 rw-p 00000000 00:00 0
b4444000-b444a000 r-xp 00000000 08:08 264602     /lib/i686/cmov/libnss_compat-2.11.2.so
b444a000-b444b000 r--p 00006000 08:08 264602     /lib/i686/cmov/libnss_compat-2.11.2.so
b444b000-b444c000 rw-p 00007000 08:08 264602     /lib/i686/cmov/libnss_compat-2.11.2.so
b444d000-b4452000 r-xp 00000000 08:08 273816     /usr/lib/libogg.so.0.7.0
b4452000-b4453000 rw-p 00004000 08:08 273816     /usr/lib/libogg.so.0.7.0
b4453000-b4457000 r-xp 00000000 08:08 273088     /usr/lib/libcanberra-gtk.so.0.1.6
b4457000-b4458000 rw-p 00003000 08:08 273088     /usr/lib/libcanberra-gtk.so.0.1.6
b4458000-b445d000 r-xp 00000000 08:08 277223     /usr/lib/gtk-2.0/modules/libcanberra-gtk-module.so
b445d000-b445e000 rw-p 00004000 08:08 277223     /usr/lib/gtk-2.0/modules/libcanberra-gtk-module.so
b445e000-b4471000 r--p 00000000 08:08 5327       /usr/share/locale/en_GB/LC_MESSAGES/gtk20.mo
b4471000-b45e7000 r--p 00000000 08:08 262510     /usr/lib/locale/locale-archive
b45e7000-b45ea000 rw-p 00000000 00:00 0
b45ea000-b45ed000 r-xp 00000000 08:08 264655     /lib/libuuid.so.1.3.0
b45ed000-b45ee000 rw-p 00002000 08:08 264655     /lib/libuuid.so.1.3.0
b45ee000-b45ef000 rw-p 00000000 00:00 0
b45ef000-b4604000 r-xp 00000000 08:08 272882     /usr/lib/libICE.so.6.3.0
b4604000-b4605000 rw-p 00014000 08:08 272882     /usr/lib/libICE.so.6.3.0
b4605000-b4607000 rw-p 00000000 00:00 0
b4607000-b460e000 r-xp 00000000 08:08 272922     /usr/lib/libSM.so.6.0.1
b460e000-b460f000 rw-p 00006000 08:08 272922     /usr/lib/libSM.so.6.0.1
b460f000-b544c000 r--p 00000000 08:08 278759     /usr/lib/libicudata.so.44.1
b544c000-b544d000 rw-p 00e3c000 08:08 278759     /usr/lib/libicudata.so.44.1
b544d000-b5450000 r-xp 00000000 08:08 273462     /usr/lib/libgpg-error.so.0.4.0
b5450000-b5451000 rw-p 00002000 08:08 273462     /usr/lib/libgpg-error.so.0.4.0
b5451000-b5452000 rw-p 00000000 00:00 0
b5452000-b5461000 r-xp 00000000 08:08 274029     /usr/lib/libtasn1.so.3.1.9
b5461000-b5462000 rw-p 0000e000 08:08 274029     /usr/lib/libtasn1.so.3.1.9
b5462000-b5466000 r-xp 00000000 08:08 272945     /usr/lib/libXdmcp.so.6.0.0
b5466000-b5467000 rw-p 00003000 08:08 272945     /usr/lib/libXdmcp.so.6.0.0
b5467000-b5469000 r-xp 00000000 08:08 283398     /usr/lib/libXau.so.6.0.0
b5469000-b546a000 rw-p 00001000 08:08 283398     /usr/lib/libXau.so.6.0.0Aborted
steve@kt600-8237-desktop ~ $


Does this shed any light on my problem? I do a straight Package Manager install and when I click on it in the menu, nothing happens.

Being such a newbie, I can't imagine that Midori is so wonderful that I want to go through the hassle of compiling or anything fancy, but maybe I am missing out on something?
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Re: Browser recommendation

Postby anamnesis on Fri Oct 08, 2010 7:32 am

SteveHoffmanUK wrote:kei84 wrote:
Which version of Midori are using? Did you compile, use Synaptic or deb package?
I use Midori 0.2.6 + couple of scripts like Flaskblock and works great.


I am using the version in the LMDE repos, in other words, I'm just doing a straight install from the LMDE package manager. I am far too much of a newbie to do anything clever like compiling!

When I try to run it from the terminal I get this:

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steve@kt600-8237-desktop ~ $ midori
*** glibc detected *** midori: free(): invalid pointer: 0x09bd5d18 ***



Does this shed any light on my problem? I do a straight Package Manager install and when I click on it in the menu, nothing happens.

Being such a newbie, I can't imagine that Midori is so wonderful that I want to go through the hassle of compiling or anything fancy, but maybe I am missing out on something?


Have you by any chance installed the "Open"jdk stuff (Java)? It seems that the openjdk-plugin doesn't work well with WebKit-gtk based browsers. Open synaptic and try to uninstall everything related to "openjdk" (complete removal) and then install the SUN-java stuff.
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Re: Browser recommendation

Postby SteveHoffmanUK on Fri Oct 08, 2010 4:58 pm

anamnesis wrote:
Have you by any chance installed the "Open"jdk stuff (Java)? It seems that the openjdk-plugin doesn't work well with WebKit-gtk based browsers. Open synaptic and try to uninstall everything related to "openjdk" (complete removal) and then install the SUN-java stuff.


I just used the standard LMDE install for everything. Have checked and no applications associated with openjdk have been installed.

Thanks for trying to help me on this. Any other suggestions from anyone?
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Re: Browser recommendation

Postby anamnesis on Sat Oct 09, 2010 11:32 am

SteveHoffmanUK wrote:anamnesis wrote:


I just used the standard LMDE install for everything. Have checked and no applications associated with openjdk have been installed.

Thanks for trying to help me on this. Any other suggestions from anyone?


Strange. I mean Midori (like any other browser) is not worth to brake a system of course. Maybe something went wrong during your installation. What you could try, and it's save: Open synaptic -> midori -> complete remove (purge...). After doing that, install midori again.
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