Media content not available in Linux, but it is in Windows 7

[Pierre]

Same websites
http://mediacenter.dw.de/english/live/
or
http://www.spiegel.tv/filme/gefahrengebiet-hamburg/

Same laptop, same browser (Firefox 26).

interesting that on this PC which is running FF 26 on Mint 10
it has the mint-flash plugin v10.2.161

& both of those sites work - just fine.

[palimmo]

Same websites
http://mediacenter.dw.de/english/live/
or
http://www.spiegel.tv/filme/gefahrengebiet-hamburg/

Same laptop, same browser (Firefox 26).

interesting that on this PC which is running FF 26 on Mint 10
it has the mint-flash plugin v10.2.161

& both of those sites work - just fine.

don't know why... but now i'm in italy and both links work.....
the flash version is the same as before......

[py-thon]

http://mediacenter.dw.de/english/live/
works with me with Opera 12.16 and Firefox 26, both using mint-flashplugin 11.2.202

[killer de bug]

adobe flash player for linux which is used in firefox and other browsers (except chrome) is unmaintained and discontinued. updates will only be available for chrome's pepper-based flash player. sorry, but that's the policy of adobe.

Stop with this. This is not even true...
This is a story for nasty kids...

[perham]

adobe flash player for linux which is used in firefox and other browsers (except chrome) is unmaintained and discontinued. updates will only be available for chrome's pepper-based flash player. sorry, but that's the policy of adobe.

Stop with this. This is not even true...
This is a story for nasty kids...

did you read the link I posted?

[killer de bug]

did you read the link I posted?

Yes and ?

First:

posted by Thom Holwerda on Wed 22nd Feb 2012

Second: people can just take pepper and make a deb with it, and you will have flash with Chromium... http://www.webupd8.org/2014/01/pepper-f ... r-for.html

Third: For Firefox nothing is changing. Security update will be done until 2017. Then we will discuss the relevance of your post

[perham]

did you read the link I posted?

Yes and ?

read it again until you understand it.

First:

posted by Thom Holwerda on Wed 22nd Feb 2012

Second: people can just take pepper and make a deb with it, and you will have flash with Chromium... http://www.webupd8.org/2014/01/pepper-f ... r-for.html

Third: For Firefox nothing is changing. Security update will be done until 2017. Then we will discuss the relevance of your post

First: Chromium IS chrome. it's the development version. besides, if someone is not happy with using chrome, chances are he doesn't like chromium either.
Second: since when "security updates" means a product is not discontinued? yes, it would be secure until 2017 but it would not support any new feature. hence "discontinued".

[killer de bug]

First: Chromium IS chrome. it's the development version.

I stopped here.

[kurotsugi]

sadly, what perham said is true. chromium is chrome's open source version without any propietary parts. flash plugin is propietary software and only adobehold the right to distribute it. they've stopped release linux version since 11.2 and never provide any update again. the solution is quite simple. anyone can extract flash from pepper but, no one is permitted to distribute it. all flash plugin on any linux distro is 11.2.

anyway, who cares
HTML5 have becomes new web standard and flash will get replaced soon.

@palimmo: your ISP might block flash content from that site. I usually change my DNS to google's DNS to get the stream again.

[killer de bug]

sadly, what perham said is true. chromium is chrome's open source version without any propietary parts.

That is true! But it's not what he said:

First: Chromium IS chrome. it's the development version.

And this is just a joke.

anyone can extract flash from pepper but, no one is permitted to distribute it. all flash plugin on any linux distro is 11.2.

Looks like Canonical is taking this right. And it will not be 11.2 since 11.2 will not work anymore in Chromium

Of course Firefox will not get any new version of Flash for the moment. But it's working fine now, and for 3 years you will be able to use flash with Firefox without any problem!
So why asking anyone to use the s**t provided by Google? There is absolutely no reasons! In 3 years, Flash will probably not be used anymore.

Once again: There is no need of Chrome for flash. People can stick with Chromium or Firefox.

[palimmo]

Second: people can just take pepper and make a deb with it, and you will have flash with Chromium... http://www.webupd8.org/2014/01/pepper-f ... r-for.html

How could we do it in LMDE? As I stated before, it seems that sometimes Chrome (and I hope Chromium) +newer version of Flash can stream videos that FF+11.2Flash cannot.

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~ $ sudo apt-get install pepperflashplugin-nonfree
[sudo] password for alessio: 
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree       
Reading state information... Done
E: Unable to locate package pepperflashplugin-nonfree

Should I download and install this package? http://packages.debian.org/jessie/amd64 ... e/download

[Monsta]

Interesting. I didn't know this package is already in Testing. It's not available in UP7, but it is in UP8.

[palimmo]

Interesting. I didn't know this package is already in Testing. It's not available in UP7, but it is in UP8.

So.. I can wait UP8.. hopefully soon

[Monsta]

If you wish you can get it straight from Testing. The version in UP8 is a little outdated:

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$ apt-cache policy pepperflashplugin-nonfree 
pepperflashplugin-nonfree:
  Installed: (none)
  Candidate: 1.1
  Version table:
     1.1 0
        500 http://debian.lth.se/lmde/incoming/ testing/contrib amd64 Packages

[palimmo]

If you wish you can get it straight from Testing. The version in UP8 is a little outdated:

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$ apt-cache policy pepperflashplugin-nonfree 
pepperflashplugin-nonfree:
  Installed: (none)
  Candidate: 1.1
  Version table:
     1.1 0
        500 http://debian.lth.se/lmde/incoming/ testing/contrib amd64 Packages

excellent, I'll do it.
So, the right process should be:
- install the package
- run this sudo update-pepperflashplugin-nonfree --install
and chromium will start using pepperflash?

[Monsta]

I don't know, I haven't tried it.

[palimmo]

I don't know, I haven't tried it.

Yes, it works.
Just two questions:
1) why do I have Chromium browser 28.0??

chrom 28.png

In http://packages.debian.org/testing/ is Chromium 31.0 available!

chr 31.png

Even in Wheezy:

chr 31 wheezy.png

In fact, during the installation of Chromium via Synaptic (therefore the version 28.0) a message ask me if I was sure, because several important bugs on that package were found.
How can I fix it??

This is my sources.list

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deb http://packages.linuxmint.com/ debian main upstream import backport romeo
deb http://mirror.rts-informatique.fr/linuxmint/debian/latest testing main contrib non-free
deb http://mirror.rts-informatique.fr/linuxmint/debian/latest/security testing/updates main contrib non-free
deb http://mirror.rts-informatique.fr/linuxmint/debian/latest/multimedia testing main non-free

2) Will pepperflashplugin-nonfree automatically update to new flash player versions? Or not?

thanks!

[killer de bug]

Yes, it works.

Perfect!

1) why do I have Chromium browser 28.0??
In http://packages.debian.org/testing/ is Chromium 31.0 available!

31 is coming with UP8.

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KDB@KDB-laptop ~ $ apt policy chromium
chromium:
  Installé : (aucun)
  Candidat : 31.0.1650.63-1
 Table de version :
     31.0.1650.63-1 0
        500 http://debian.linuxmint.com/incoming/ testing/main amd64 Packages
     29.0.1547.57-3 0
        100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
  

In fact, during the installation of Chromium via Synaptic (therefore the version 28.0) a message ask me if I was sure, because several important bugs on that package were found.
How can I fix it??

Is it working? If yes, no worries. Next week you will have 31.0 with UP8

2) Will pepperflashplugin-nonfree automatically update to new flash player versions? Or not?

Yes! Every time a new version is available in Testing, it will be added to the next UP and pepperflash will be upgraded when applying the UP.
Of course if you prefer, you can install it manually from testing, every time a new version is available. But frankly I don't see the point to do so

[palimmo]

Thanks killer de bug.

Let me understand:

- e.g. for the Chromium browser, Debian stable is more up-to-date than LMDE (based on testing)?
Do the same happen with other packages?

- Even pepperflashplugin-nonfree won't automatically update flash player to a new version when this is available.

Hence is it not more "recommended", in this case, to use chrome via deb http://dl.google.com/linux/chrome/deb/ stable main ?
At least you have:
chrome (and pepperflash) always up-to-date.
Am I right?

thanks and excuse me if I mess up

[Monsta]

In http://packages.debian.org/testing/ is Chromium 31.0 available!

So what? You're using LMDE with Update Packs, not Debian Testing.
See LMDE FAQ, question Q3.