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New UP? A new interesting challenge!

Postby palimmo on Wed Feb 05, 2014 5:57 pm

Yesterday evening I found that UP8 was finally here, therefore I read accurately the UP notes and then started it via Upload Manager.
It downloaded everything and then, when it started installing, after 2 minutes it gave me an error (segmentation fault, if I remember well) and the process suddenly stopped.
I had to reboot the machine, relogin again and continue the update process via recovery mode. This time successfully.

Now I can report some issues discovered so far: :D

1) Splash screen (that one after Grub): it is disapperead. Now I have only a long river of commands on my screen for about 20 seconds. How to fix it?

2) Login screen (this is the funniest): it is the new one, with a grey-green background. Nice. The user box is on the center-left. But in it I can see an anonymous picture and no user name. Quite ugly.
Therefore I type my password in the blank field and press enter.

3) Google-talk-plugin: it doesn't work. I have tried to reinstall it, relaunch Firefox or reboot the laptop.... No way to have a video chat with my girlfriend anymore. I terribly need it again, my friends! :)

Finally... a good news... one thing that has been fixed from UP7: now usb devices are recognized "out-of-the-box". No need to downgrade gvfs anymore. 8)

I look forward to hearing from you.
thanks in advance!
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Re: New UP? A new interesting challenge!

Postby kurotsugi on Wed Feb 05, 2014 6:14 pm

1. the splash screen is using plymouth. you can use debian-plymouth manager to configure it.
2. I'm not using mdm but I'm sure this issue is configureable via mdm config
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Re: New UP? A new interesting challenge!

Postby GeneBenson on Wed Feb 05, 2014 11:52 pm

Hi palimmo,
2) Login screen (this is the funniest): it is the new one, with a grey-green background. Nice. The user box is on the center-left. But in it I can see an anonymous picture and no user name. Quite ugly.
Therefore I type my password in the blank field and press enter.

You can change the MDM theme with the app: Login Window.
Or in a terminal with: mdmsetup.

Hope this helps. :D
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Re: New UP? A new interesting challenge!

Postby Monsta on Thu Feb 06, 2014 2:42 am

palimmo wrote:after 2 minutes it gave me an error (segmentation fault, if I remember well)

:shock: That's something new, I haven't seen any segfaults during the UP8 testing. Can you remember what package it was?

palimmo wrote:I had to reboot the machine, relogin again and continue the update process via recovery mode.

You were lucky that a half-upgraded system booted fine.

palimmo wrote:Google-talk-plugin: it doesn't work. I have tried to reinstall it, relaunch Firefox or reboot the laptop.... No way to have a video chat with my girlfriend anymore. I terribly need it again, my friends!

Where that plugin is used? I mean, where do you plug it in? :)
Also please tell where did you install it from.

palimmo wrote:Finally... a good news... one thing that has been fixed from UP7: now usb devices are recognized "out-of-the-box". No need to downgrade gvfs anymore.

That's strange because gvfs is essentially the same as before. Maybe the problem was in some other package that's now upgraded...
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Re: New UP? A new interesting challenge!

Postby palimmo on Thu Feb 06, 2014 5:31 pm

Monsta wrote:
palimmo wrote:after 2 minutes it gave me an error (segmentation fault, if I remember well)

:shock: That's something new, I haven't seen any segfaults during the UP8 testing. Can you remember what package it was?

Unfortunately I haven't taken note of the package name.

Monsta wrote:
palimmo wrote:Google-talk-plugin: it doesn't work. I have tried to reinstall it, relaunch Firefox or reboot the laptop.... No way to have a video chat with my girlfriend anymore. I terribly need it again, my friends!

Where that plugin is used? I mean, where do you plug it in? :)
Also please tell where did you install it from.

As usual, I need it for the videochat/hangout in the browser via my google gmail account.
When I login into my gmail account, the chat on the main page (if the google-talk-plugin is correctly installed) enables me to make videocalls.
This time, it appears like I have not installed it...hence I can do only text chat (quite frustrating...).
The package is delivered directly by google clicking on the chat icon... This should be the specific page for the download
http://www.google.com/tools/dlpage/hang ... html?hl=en
In Firefox -> about:plugins it seems correctly installed
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Google Talk Plugin Video Accelerator

    File: libnpgtpo3dautoplugin.so
    Path: /opt/google/talkplugin/libnpgtpo3dautoplugin.so
    Version:
    State: Enabled
    Google Talk Plugin Video Accelerator version:0.1.44.29

MIME Type   Description   Suffixes
application/vnd.gtpo3d.auto   O3D MIME   
Google Talk Plugin

    File: libnpgoogletalk.so
    Path: /opt/google/talkplugin/libnpgoogletalk.so
    Version:
    State: Enabled
    Version: 4.9.1.0

MIME Type   Description   Suffixes
application/googletalk   Google Talk Plugin   googletalk
Google Talk Plugin Video Renderer

    File: libnpo1d.so
    Path: /opt/google/talkplugin/libnpo1d.so
    Version:
    State: Enabled
    Version: 4.9.1.0

MIME Type   Description   Suffixes
application/o1d   Google Talk Plugin Video Renderer   o1d
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Re: New UP? A new interesting challenge!

Postby palimmo on Thu Feb 06, 2014 5:56 pm

kurotsugi wrote:1. the splash screen is using plymouth. you can use debian-plymouth manager to configure it.
2. I'm not using mdm but I'm sure this issue is configureable via mdm config


thanks kurotsugi. But in synaptic there is no debian plymouth related package. Is there no plymouth manager in cinnamon?

mdm: I'll try to play with it a little bit.
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Re: New UP? A new interesting challenge!

Postby killer de bug on Thu Feb 06, 2014 6:20 pm

palimmo wrote:thanks kurotsugi. But in synaptic there is no debian plymouth related package. Is there no plymouth manager in cinnamon?


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apt install plymouth


palimmo wrote:mdm: I'll try to play with it a little bit.

The absence of name is a bug. Clem has just announced it will be corrected tomorrow. Best thing is to use a GDM theme until then.
viewtopic.php?f=198&t=158419&p=819517#p819517
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Re: New UP? A new interesting challenge!

Postby palimmo on Thu Feb 06, 2014 6:27 pm

killer de bug wrote:
palimmo wrote:thanks kurotsugi. But in synaptic there is no debian plymouth related package. Is there no plymouth manager in cinnamon?


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apt install plymouth

uhm...
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~ $ apt install plymouth
[sudo] password for alessio:
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree       
Reading state information... Done
plymouth is already the newest version.

Well.. it is installed. But how can I manage it?
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palimmo wrote:mdm: I'll try to play with it a little bit.

The absence of name is a bug. Clem has just announced it will be corrected tomorrow. Best thing is to use a GDM theme until then.
viewtopic.php?f=198&t=158419&p=819517#p819517


Excellent! Already updated to the new version. it works!
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Re: New UP? A new interesting challenge!

Postby killer de bug on Thu Feb 06, 2014 6:35 pm

palimmo wrote:Well.. it is installed. But how can I manage it?


Do you have plymouth-manager installed?

http://community.linuxmint.com/tutorial/view/37
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Re: New UP? A new interesting challenge!

Postby palimmo on Thu Feb 06, 2014 6:43 pm

killer de bug wrote:
palimmo wrote:Well.. it is installed. But how can I manage it?


Do you have plymouth-manager installed?

http://community.linuxmint.com/tutorial/view/37

Yes, i have.
But my problem is different, 'cause I do not see plymouth splash screen at all. Only text.
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Re: New UP? A new interesting challenge!

Postby killer de bug on Thu Feb 06, 2014 6:45 pm

do you have plymouth-themes-all installed ?

or plymouth-theme-mint ?
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Re: New UP? A new interesting challenge!

Postby palimmo on Thu Feb 06, 2014 6:56 pm

killer de bug wrote:do you have plymouth-themes-all installed ?

or plymouth-theme-mint ?

I had plymouth-theme-mint installed. Now I've added the others.
How can I try them?
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Re: New UP? A new interesting challenge!

Postby killer de bug on Thu Feb 06, 2014 7:12 pm

I don't know, I don't use plymouth. But google may help you...
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Re: New UP? A new interesting challenge!

Postby Ken_g6 on Fri Feb 07, 2014 2:26 pm

Google Talk plugin hasn't worked for me in Firefox for months. I haven't upgraded to UP8 yet, but in UP7 with Firefox installed separately so it constantly updates, something broke between Firefox and Google Talk awhile back. Have you tried Chromium? It's still working fine in Chromium for me, but we shall see what happens with UP8.
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Re: New UP? A new interesting challenge!

Postby palimmo on Fri Feb 07, 2014 6:34 pm

killer de bug wrote:do you have plymouth-themes-all installed ?

or plymouth-theme-mint ?


I have installed plymouth-themes-all and other packages related and now it works. The theme is not excellent (is that one with the big linux mint icon in the center) but it's ok.
How could I change it?
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Re: New UP? A new interesting challenge!

Postby palimmo on Fri Feb 07, 2014 6:36 pm

Ken_g6 wrote:Google Talk plugin hasn't worked for me in Firefox for months. I haven't upgraded to UP8 yet, but in UP7 with Firefox installed separately so it constantly updates, something broke between Firefox and Google Talk awhile back. Have you tried Chromium? It's still working fine in Chromium for me, but we shall see what happens with UP8.


Until a few days ago (UP7 and FF26) google talk plugin has worked as always.
Now, UP8 and FF26 (since a few minutes FF27) it doesn't work.. even if I can see it in about:plugins.
Same situation in Chrome! :|
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Re: New UP? A new interesting challenge!

Postby palimmo on Sat Feb 08, 2014 5:46 am

palimmo wrote:
Ken_g6 wrote:Google Talk plugin hasn't worked for me in Firefox for months. I haven't upgraded to UP8 yet, but in UP7 with Firefox installed separately so it constantly updates, something broke between Firefox and Google Talk awhile back. Have you tried Chromium? It's still working fine in Chromium for me, but we shall see what happens with UP8.


Until a few days ago (UP7 and FF26) google talk plugin has worked as always.
Now, UP8 and FF26 (since a few minutes FF27) it doesn't work.. even if I can see it in about:plugins.
Same situation in Chrome! :|


SOLVED! Now google-talk-plugin works again in Firefox (27 in my case).
Here I found the solution:
https://productforums.google.com/forum/ ... ZzFG6or9Tw
removing libudev0.
This breaks Google Chrome. But you should be able to fix it by unistall/reinstall it again.
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Re: New UP? A new interesting challenge!

Postby kurotsugi on Sat Feb 08, 2014 6:00 am

I never use mint's plymouth manager but debian have their own tool called 'debian-plymouth-manager' you can install it via 'sudo aptitude install debian-plymouth-manager'. with this tool we can see all installed them, change the theme, or even install a new theme. you'll also need to make sure that grub has 'splash' on his parameter.
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Re: New UP? A new interesting challenge!

Postby Monsta on Sat Feb 08, 2014 6:19 am

kurotsugi wrote:debian have their own tool called 'debian-plymouth-manager'

It's not from Debian, it's from SolydXK. Originally this tool appeared here (before the author went to create SolydXK).
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Re: New UP? A new interesting challenge!

Postby palimmo on Sat Feb 08, 2014 6:31 am

kurotsugi wrote:I never use mint's plymouth manager but debian have their own tool called 'debian-plymouth-manager' you can install it via 'sudo aptitude install debian-plymouth-manager'. with this tool we can see all installed them, change the theme, or even install a new theme. you'll also need to make sure that grub has 'splash' on his parameter.

Unfortunately
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 $ sudo aptitude install debian-plymouth-manager
[sudo] password for alessio:
Couldn't find any package whose name or description matched "debian-plymouth-manager"
Couldn't find any package whose name or description matched "debian-plymouth-manager"
No packages will be installed, upgraded, or removed.
0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Need to get 0 B of archives. After unpacking 0 B will be used.
                                         
alessio@alessio-laptop ~ $ sudo apt-get install debian-plymouth-manager
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree       
Reading state information... Done
E: Unable to locate package debian-plymouth-manager
alessio@alessio-laptop ~ $
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