Update manager wants to uninstall MATE [SOLVED]
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LMDE 2 has reached end of support as of 1-1-2019
LMDE 2 has reached end of support as of 1-1-2019
Update manager wants to uninstall MATE [SOLVED]
I've never used anything but the MATE version of LMDE on this machine, but when I try to use the upgrade manager it wants to uninstall all of MATE and replace it with Cinnamon. I double checked and it looks like apt-get dist-upgrade is trying to do the same thing. According to the upgrade manager it's pointing at UP8, although it's been a *very* long time since i did an upgrade. I have no idea what upgrade pack I have actually installed.
Is there something I've done to make it think that I'm a Cinnamon user?
How can I do an upgrade and keep MATE? I suppose I could let the upgrade proceed and then spend days fixing the breakage and reinstalling MATE, but if I had time to do that I'd have stuck with Gentoo.
Is there something I've done to make it think that I'm a Cinnamon user?
How can I do an upgrade and keep MATE? I suppose I could let the upgrade proceed and then spend days fixing the breakage and reinstalling MATE, but if I had time to do that I'd have stuck with Gentoo.
Last edited by LockBot on Wed Dec 28, 2022 7:16 am, edited 2 times in total.
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Re: Update manager wants to uninstall MATE
It could be easier if you could post the results of We would have a better understanding of the situation. Which software did you install recently?
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apt dist-upgrade
Re: Update manager wants to uninstall MATE
I actually haven't installed any software for months. One of the reasons I haven't updated in so long is that I saw that MATE was about to be uninstalled, and I didn't have time to deal with it. It may be close to a year since I've made any changes to the system.
I don't know about using plain old apt. I don't see a "simulate" option, and I'm not willing to launch an update that will really change the system until I know why this is happening. Here is what an apt-get dist-update gives me:
I don't know about using plain old apt. I don't see a "simulate" option, and I'm not willing to launch an update that will really change the system until I know why this is happening. Here is what an apt-get dist-update gives me:
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friday steve # apt-get -s dist-upgrade
Reading package lists...
Building dependency tree...
Reading state information...
The following packages will be REMOVED:
firefox-l10n-en-us gnome-desktop-data libaudit0 libcheese-gtk21 libcheese3
libcogl-pango0 libcogl9 libmarco libmatedesktop libmatekbd libmatekeyring
libmatepanelapplet libmateweather libmatewnck libmutter0 libperl5.14
libreoffice-filter-mobiledev libvlccore5 libxvmcnvidia1 mate-core
mate-desktop-environment texlive-common texlive-doc-base
xserver-xorg-video-apm xserver-xorg-video-ark xserver-xorg-video-chips
xserver-xorg-video-i128 xserver-xorg-video-i740 xserver-xorg-video-rendition
xserver-xorg-video-s3 xserver-xorg-video-s3virge xserver-xorg-video-sis
xserver-xorg-video-tseng xserver-xorg-video-voodoo
The following NEW packages will be installed:
attr cinnamon-desktop-data cpp-4.8 cracklib-runtime g++-4.8 gcc-4.8
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The following packages will be upgraded:
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1157 upgraded, 165 newly installed, 34 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Re: Update manager wants to uninstall MATE
Obsolete MATE libs are removed, MATE itself is upgraded, some Cinnamon-related packages are installed (you can investigate further later and possibly remove them), Cinnamon itself is not installed.
Looks like a normal upgrade from UP6 (or maybe 7) to UP8.
Careful reading of apt dist-upgrade output is all you need.
Looks like a normal upgrade from UP6 (or maybe 7) to UP8.
Careful reading of apt dist-upgrade output is all you need.
Re: Update manager wants to uninstall MATE
I agree with Monsta. This is an upgrade to UP8.
This confused me. Clearly It says that UP8 is available, not that you have itunkilbeeg wrote: According to the upgrade manager it's pointing at UP8, although it's been a *very* long time since i did an upgrade. I have no idea what upgrade pack I have actually installed.
Re: Update manager wants to uninstall MATE
Well, a careful, or maybe an informed reading. This makes sense and sets my mind at ease. Now that I know what to look for I can see what you're saying.Monsta wrote: Careful reading of apt dist-upgrade output is all you need.
Yeah. I had no idea what I have installed, only that the upgrade was pointing at UP8.killer de bug wrote: This confused me. Clearly It says that UP8 is available, not that you have it
Thanks! I'll start the upgrade now.
Re: Update manager wants to uninstall MATE [SOLVED]
It's better to read UP notes first (either here or in mintUpdate).
Re: Update manager wants to uninstall MATE [SOLVED]
You're right, and I should have. To be fair, however, nothing in the notes indicates this issue. They *do* indicate some changes in Cinnamon, but why would that affect me? I've never installed or used any part of Cinnamon.
That was part of what fooled me. Mate components were being removed and Cinnamon components were being added. Sure, if I looked further down the list (a lot further down) other Mate components were being updated. I didn't look that far down. And I still don't know why any Cinnamon stuff would be added.
Anyway, the upgrade seems to have gone fine, and I'm making the changes the upgrade notes suggest for APT sources.
Except it looks like I had to install mintsources by hand, and it's not working...
That was part of what fooled me. Mate components were being removed and Cinnamon components were being added. Sure, if I looked further down the list (a lot further down) other Mate components were being updated. I didn't look that far down. And I still don't know why any Cinnamon stuff would be added.
Anyway, the upgrade seems to have gone fine, and I'm making the changes the upgrade notes suggest for APT sources.
Except it looks like I had to install mintsources by hand, and it's not working...
Re: Update manager wants to uninstall MATE [SOLVED]
did you install mint-mirrors also?
look here http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.p ... 57#p822185
And Monsta was telling you to read the UP notes before upgrading. Because in order to avoid troubles you may have to perform a few steps before upgrading. But it was too late for you
look here http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.p ... 57#p822185
And Monsta was telling you to read the UP notes before upgrading. Because in order to avoid troubles you may have to perform a few steps before upgrading. But it was too late for you
Re: Update manager wants to uninstall MATE [SOLVED]
If you installed LMDE in 2012 this would have been a hybrid system with both Mate and Cinnamon (you could decide between MATE- and Cinnamon-sessions). In this case the new versions of your old cinnamon packages on your system might cause additional cinnamon-packages to be installed.unkilbeeg wrote:Is there something I've done to make it think that I'm a Cinnamon user?
Re: Update manager wants to uninstall MATE [SOLVED]
Yep, I found the mint-mirrors thread, and that solved that problem.killer de bug wrote:did you install mint-mirrors also?
look here http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.p ... 57#p822185
And Monsta was telling you to read the UP notes before upgrading. Because in order to avoid troubles you may have to perform a few steps before upgrading. But it was too late for you
I did go over the UP notes after the fact, and they did help me fix some things. But they didn't address most of what I was having trouble with, including the requirement for mint-mirrors, so even if I had read them in advance, I'd have still been here, asking the same questions I did.
The initial install was probably 2010. If some subsequent update added the cinnamon packages in, they might have already been here. Otherwise probably not.py-thon wrote:If you installed LMDE in 2012 this would have been a hybrid system with both Mate and Cinnamon (you could decide between MATE- and Cinnamon-sessions). In this case the new versions of your old cinnamon packages on your system might cause additional cinnamon-packages to be installed.