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Re: LMDE BREAKAGES - tracking Testing - read here first-6/o

Postby viking777 on Sat Oct 08, 2011 12:10 pm

Thanks to GeneC's link in an earlier post I finally got a handle on what it causing this Nvidia/xorg problem. It seems that the new xorg

caused a performance regression because previously, miTrapezoids
would render its mask image into a scratch pixmap and then perform the
final composite using a possibly-accelerated RENDER Composite call.
Now, fbTrapezoids does the final composite in software,


Now why couldn't you have told me that before?

Really, what is the matter with you dummies :shock: :? :lol:
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Re: LMDE BREAKAGES - tracking Testing - read here first-6/o

Postby GeneC on Sat Oct 08, 2011 12:29 pm

viking

I just hate it when my miTrapezoids :?: :shock: don't render correctly.... :lol: :lol:

I have no idea what any of that means. :?
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Need a bit of advice :)

Postby xircon on Sat Oct 08, 2011 4:06 pm

This looks do-able, am I going to bork my machine? :)
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sudo apt-get upgrade
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree       
Reading state information... Done
The following packages have been kept back:
  blueman deskbar-applet gdesklets libreoffice libreoffice-base libreoffice-base-core libreoffice-calc libreoffice-core libreoffice-draw libreoffice-filter-binfilter   libreoffice-gtk libreoffice-impress libreoffice-math libreoffice-writer lilypond lilypond-data python python-all python-all-dev python-brlapi python-dev python-gudev   python-imobiledevice python-minimal python-plist python-protobuf python-uno xorg xserver-xorg xserver-xorg-core xserver-xorg-input-evdev xserver-xorg-input-synaptics   xserver-xorg-input-wacom xserver-xorg-video-ati xserver-xorg-video-fbdev xserver-xorg-video-mach64 xserver-xorg-video-nouveau xserver-xorg-video-r128   xserver-xorg-video-radeon xserver-xorg-video-vesa xserver-xorg-video-vmware
The following packages will be upgraded:
  libgl1-mesa-dev libgl1-mesa-dri libgl1-mesa-glx libgladeui-1-9 libglapi-mesa libglu1-mesa libglu1-mesa-dev libreoffice-common libreoffice-emailmerge   libreoffice-filter-mobiledev libreoffice-help-en-gb libreoffice-java-common libreoffice-l10n-en-gb libreoffice-pdfimport libreoffice-report-builder-bin   libreoffice-style-galaxy libreoffice-style-hicontrast libreoffice-style-oxygen libreoffice-style-tango lilypond-doc mesa-common-dev uno-libs3 ure x11-common xbase-clients xserver-common xserver-xephyr xserver-xorg-input-all
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Re: LMDE BREAKAGES - tracking Testing - read here first-6/o

Postby tdockery97 on Sat Oct 08, 2011 4:25 pm

I don't even use nvidia and it's still holding back a gazillion xorg updates. :shock: Not sure if I even need them anyway, as everything works just like it's supposed to. :P
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Re: LMDE BREAKAGES - tracking Testing - read here first-6/o

Postby zerozero on Sat Oct 08, 2011 7:26 pm

viking, and now the english version please :lol:

xircon, i dunno, looks a bit fishy to me, LO may broke, you have pkgs been hold back and others updated, the same goes to some of the xserver stuff, depends how well those v. differences are going to impact :shock: backup backup
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Re: LMDE BREAKAGES - tracking Testing - read here first-6/o

Postby xircon on Sun Oct 09, 2011 4:01 am

Nothing worse than getting your Trapezoids in a tangle as all blokes know ;)

Yeh, will probably, on balance, leave it, think it would be optimistic at best :D
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Re: LMDE BREAKAGES - tracking Testing - read here first-6/o

Postby wyrdoak on Sun Oct 09, 2011 10:13 am

If'n ya'll don't stop playing with them Trapezoids thingys you'll go blind, ya know.
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Re: LMDE BREAKAGES - tracking Testing - read here first-6/o

Postby CapitalG on Sun Oct 09, 2011 5:28 pm

wyrdoak wrote:If'n ya'll don't stop playing with them Trapezoids thingys you'll go blind, ya know.




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Re: LMDE BREAKAGES - tracking Testing - read here first-6/o

Postby tdockery97 on Sun Oct 09, 2011 6:05 pm

I think my trapezoids escaped. I haven't seen them around lately. :shock:
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Re: LMDE BREAKAGES - tracking Testing - read here first-6/o

Postby ghostdawg on Mon Oct 10, 2011 11:44 am

After doing a safe-upgrade over the weekend, which didn't offer to upgrade those x files, and rebooting, now my GDM comes up huge, the fonts are large it seems. The screen also moves as I move the mouse. I have a usb mouse and keyboard, so when I try to sign in, I can't type anything. I can choose the user and when I try to type in the password, nothing appears in the password box. I have an ATI video card but use the default driver that's included with LMDE.

I dual boot LMDE with another distro, so after doing the safe-update, I booted into the second distro until today is when I see this issue.

Any ideas what could be going on?
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Re: LMDE BREAKAGES - tracking Testing - read here first-6/o

Postby Gerd50 on Mon Oct 10, 2011 6:42 pm

viewtopic.php?f=198&t=70230&start=260

there gcp wrote:

[SOLVED] Slowdown with Xorg 1.11 and Nvidia Driver 285.05.09

install Nvidia Driver 285.05.09 from repo experimental and reboot
install Xorg 1.11 and reboot
you will now experience a slowdown (some "Trapezoid" stuff), but graphics are ok

open Synaptic Package Manager
add this repository:
deb http://frickelplatz.de/debian/ sid main contrib non-free

open this url in a browser:
http://keyserver.ubuntu.com:11371/pks/l ... 08151E2489
and save the key (only the key!) in a file like frickelplatz.gpg
import the key-file in the Authentication tab

reload the repositories

Upgrade:
xserver-xorg-core:amd64 (1.11.1-1, 1.11.1-1+c0.frickel.1)
xserver-common:amd64 (1.11.1-1, 1.11.1-1+c0.frickel.1)
xvfb:amd64 (1.11.1-1, 1.11.1-1+c0.frickel.1)
xnest:amd64 (1.11.1-1, 1.11.1-1+c0.frickel.1)

dont know if you need all 4 packages, but i have done it.
reboot

you should see now a fast accelerated Desktop
with Xorg 1.11 and Nvidia Driver 285.05.09 !! :lol: :lol: :lol:

disable the frickelplatz repository.

Thanks to "towo" who uploaded the patched Xorg files


I tried it on my 32bit system today and it's working :) what i had to do before installing the Xorg 1.11 stuff was disable the
Mint repos and after sharpen the frickelplatz repos disable the testing repos. Otherwise nvidia-glx 285 would have gone over
the Jordan again. Instead of xnest i choosed xserver-xephyr. After sharpend the frickelplatz repo the keyring was available
in synaptic.

Thanks to gcp, towo and GeneC who posted this possibility in this thread :D
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Re: LMDE BREAKAGES - tracking Testing - read here first-6/o

Postby zerozero on Mon Oct 10, 2011 7:46 pm

ghostdawg wrote:After doing a safe-upgrade over the weekend,

what happens if you do a full-upgrade? what pkgs are waiting to be updated? safe-upgrade is not the way to go with a rolling release, at least not as a rule.
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Re: LMDE BREAKAGES - tracking Testing - read here first-6/o

Postby theophrastus on Mon Oct 10, 2011 11:13 pm

what happens if you do a full-upgrade? what pkgs are waiting to be updated? safe-upgrade is not the way to go with a rolling release, at least not as a rule.


does "apt-get dist-upgrade" amount to a "full-upgrade"? because that's what i did and ended up like the rest of these poor souls. the pkgs that were "held back" were everything with "xserver-..." as a prefix (and that was perhaps two dozen packages)

haven't tried the frickelplatz maneuver yet, but will try it soon. thank you all for looking into this rather annoying issue. mine was a nearly pristine install when it hit this event.
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Re: LMDE BREAKAGES - tracking Testing - read here first-6/o

Postby viking777 on Tue Oct 11, 2011 5:13 am

theophrastus wrote:
what happens if you do a full-upgrade? what pkgs are waiting to be updated? safe-upgrade is not the way to go with a rolling release, at least not as a rule.


does "apt-get dist-upgrade" amount to a "full-upgrade"? because that's what i did and ended up like the rest of these poor souls. the pkgs that were "held back" were everything with "xserver-..." as a prefix (and that was perhaps two dozen packages)

haven't tried the frickelplatz maneuver yet, but will try it soon. thank you all for looking into this rather annoying issue. mine was a nearly pristine install when it hit this event.


"apt-get dist-upgrade" does constitute a full upgrade provided you "apt-get update" first. The frickleplatz maneuver is meant for nvidia cards. So don't bother if you aren't using nvidia.
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Re: LMDE BREAKAGES - tracking Testing - read here first-6/o

Postby ghostdawg on Tue Oct 11, 2011 9:30 am

zerozero wrote:
ghostdawg wrote:After doing a safe-upgrade over the weekend,

what happens if you do a full-upgrade? what pkgs are waiting to be updated? safe-upgrade is not the way to go with a rolling release, at least not as a rule.

I normally do a full-upgrade but at times it wants to install or remove some packages, in this case the xserver group of packages. If I was to choose to install them, it would remove a few other packages, so I decided to do the safe-upgrade until the other packages would be solved. I believe it removes certain packages because of dependency issues.

I guess I can try to boot into expert mode and run the full-upgrade from cli to see what happens.

Are you saying instead of doing the safe-upgrade, one should just wait for everything to be fully upgraded when doing the full-upgrade?

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Re: LMDE BREAKAGES - tracking Testing - read here first-6/o

Postby ghostdawg on Tue Oct 11, 2011 10:05 am

When running the full-grade command this is what's showing:
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aptitude full-upgrade

The following NEW packages will be installed:
  gir1.2-cogl-1.0{a} gir1.2-coglpango-1.0{a} libcogl-common{a}
  libcogl-pango0{a} libcogl5{a} libjson0{a} rtkit{a}
The following packages will be upgraded:
  binfmt-support cpp-4.4 debhelper deskbar-applet dmidecode
  evolution evolution-common evolution-plugins g++-4.4 gcalctool
  gcc-4.4 gcc-4.4-base gimp gimp-data gir1.2-clutter-1.0
  gnome-system-monitor libburn4 libclutter-1.0-0
  libclutter-1.0-common libdbus-glib-1-2 libdjvulibre-text
  libdjvulibre21 libdvdread4 libevolution libflac8 libgimp2.0
  libgnome-keyring0 libgweather-3-0 libgweather-common libisofs6
  libp11-kit0 libpangomm-1.4-1 libpulse-mainloop-glib0 libpulse0
  libreoffice-base libreoffice-base-core libreoffice-calc
  libreoffice-core libreoffice-draw libreoffice-filter-binfilter
  libreoffice-gnome libreoffice-gtk libreoffice-impress
  libreoffice-math libreoffice-writer libsdl-ttf2.0-0
  libstdc++6-4.4-dev libswt-cairo-gtk-3-jni libswt-gnome-gtk-3-jni
  libswt-gtk-3-java libswt-gtk-3-jni libswt-webkit-gtk-3-jni
  libtalloc2 libunique-3.0-0 libwps-0.2-2 mint-meta-codecs{b}
  pulseaudio pulseaudio-esound-compat pulseaudio-module-gconf
  pulseaudio-module-x11 pulseaudio-module-zeroconf pulseaudio-utils
  python python-brlapi python-mako python-minimal python-uno
  xserver-xorg xserver-xorg-core{b} xserver-xorg-input-evdev
  xserver-xorg-input-synaptics xserver-xorg-input-wacom
  xserver-xorg-video-apm xserver-xorg-video-ark
  xserver-xorg-video-ati xserver-xorg-video-chips
  xserver-xorg-video-cirrus xserver-xorg-video-fbdev
  xserver-xorg-video-i128 xserver-xorg-video-i740
  xserver-xorg-video-intel xserver-xorg-video-mach64
  xserver-xorg-video-mga xserver-xorg-video-neomagic
  xserver-xorg-video-nouveau xserver-xorg-video-openchrome
  xserver-xorg-video-r128 xserver-xorg-video-radeon
  xserver-xorg-video-rendition xserver-xorg-video-s3
  xserver-xorg-video-s3virge xserver-xorg-video-savage
  xserver-xorg-video-siliconmotion xserver-xorg-video-sis
  xserver-xorg-video-sisusb xserver-xorg-video-tdfx
  xserver-xorg-video-trident xserver-xorg-video-tseng
  xserver-xorg-video-vesa xserver-xorg-video-vmware
  xserver-xorg-video-voodoo zenity zenity-common
103 packages upgraded, 7 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
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The following packages have unmet dependencies:
  python-beagle: Depends: python (< 2.7) but 2.7.2-8 is to be installed.
  python-aptdaemon: Depends: python (< 2.7) but 2.7.2-8 is to be installed.
  xserver-xorg-core: Depends: libpixman-1-0 (>= 0.21.6) but 0.20.2-0ubuntu1 is installed.
  libpulse-browse0: Depends: libpulse0 (= 0.9.23-1) but 1.0-4 is to be installed.
  mint-meta-codecs: Conflicts: gstreamer0.10-plugins-really-bad but 0.10.22-0.2 is installed.
The following actions will resolve these dependencies:

      Remove the following packages:                             
1)      aptdaemon                                                 
2)      gstreamer0.10-plugins-really-bad                         
3)      libpulse-browse0                                         
4)      mint-meta-common                                         
5)      mint-meta-debian                                         
6)      mintinstall                                               
7)      python-aptdaemon                                         
8)      python-beagle                                             
9)      xserver-xorg                                             
10)     xserver-xorg-core                                         
11)     xserver-xorg-input-all                                   
12)     xserver-xorg-input-evdev                                 
13)     xserver-xorg-input-synaptics                             
14)     xserver-xorg-input-wacom                                 
15)     xserver-xorg-video-apm                                   
16)     xserver-xorg-video-ark                                   
17)     xserver-xorg-video-ati                                   
18)     xserver-xorg-video-chips                                 
19)     xserver-xorg-video-cirrus                                 
20)     xserver-xorg-video-fbdev                                 
21)     xserver-xorg-video-i128                                   
22)     xserver-xorg-video-i740                                   
23)     xserver-xorg-video-intel                                 
24)     xserver-xorg-video-mach64                                 
25)     xserver-xorg-video-mga                                   
26)     xserver-xorg-video-neomagic                               
27)     xserver-xorg-video-nouveau                               
28)     xserver-xorg-video-openchrome                             
29)     xserver-xorg-video-r128                                   
30)     xserver-xorg-video-radeon                                 
31)     xserver-xorg-video-rendition
32)     xserver-xorg-video-s3
33)     xserver-xorg-video-s3virge
34)     xserver-xorg-video-savage
35)     xserver-xorg-video-siliconmotion
36)     xserver-xorg-video-sis
37)     xserver-xorg-video-sisusb
38)     xserver-xorg-video-tdfx
39)     xserver-xorg-video-trident
40)     xserver-xorg-video-tseng
41)     xserver-xorg-video-vesa
42)     xserver-xorg-video-vmware
43)     xserver-xorg-video-voodoo

      Leave the following dependencies unresolved:
44)     gdm3 recommends xserver-xorg
45)     xinit recommends xserver-xorg | xserver
46)     xserver-xorg-input-all recommends xserver-xorg-input-wacom

Accept this solution? Y/n/q/?

So I would abort this and run safe-upgrade and wait for the others to be resolved before running full-upgrade again.

Any idea what is happening?

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Re: LMDE BREAKAGES - tracking Testing - read here first-6/o

Postby ghostdawg on Tue Oct 11, 2011 10:08 am

This is what show when I run safe-upgrade, and yes I do run aptitude update first.

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aptitude safe-upgrade

Resolving dependencies...
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  gir1.2-cogl-1.0{a} gir1.2-coglpango-1.0{a} libcogl-common{a}
  libcogl-pango0{a} libcogl5{a}
The following packages will be upgraded:
  binfmt-support cpp-4.4 debhelper dmidecode evolution
  evolution-common evolution-plugins g++-4.4 gcalctool gcc-4.4
  gcc-4.4-base gimp gimp-data gir1.2-clutter-1.0
  gnome-system-monitor libburn4 libclutter-1.0-0
  libclutter-1.0-common libdbus-glib-1-2 libdjvulibre-text
  libdjvulibre21 libdvdread4 libevolution libflac8 libgimp2.0
  libgnome-keyring0 libgweather-3-0 libgweather-common libisofs6
  libp11-kit0 libpangomm-1.4-1 libsdl-ttf2.0-0 libstdc++6-4.4-dev
  libswt-cairo-gtk-3-jni libswt-gnome-gtk-3-jni libswt-gtk-3-java
  libswt-gtk-3-jni libswt-webkit-gtk-3-jni libtalloc2
  libunique-3.0-0 libwps-0.2-2 python-mako zenity zenity-common
44 packages upgraded, 5 newly installed, 0 to remove and 59 not upgraded.
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Re: LMDE BREAKAGES - tracking Testing - read here first-6/o

Postby zerozero on Wed Oct 12, 2011 6:31 pm

ghostdawg,
i've been looking at your posts and can't find easy answers;

1- i've always learned (and used in all the rolling distros i been using) that full-upgrade (or similar) is the only way to go; if the update looks fishy or is broken, wait and update other day;

2- removals and additions are part of testing, you have to accept this (of course with the exception when those removals will broke clearly your system);

3- because of the above, hold a full-update for a long periods of time because some pkgs are to be removed, will only make things worst, problems will cumulate and some of the breakages easily solved in an early stage would be impossible later;
3-a) in testing the definition of long periods of time is very short (testing moves so fast that one week sometimes is to much);

now, your situation: you have these unmet deps
The following packages have unmet dependencies:
python-beagle: Depends: python (< 2.7) but 2.7.2-8 is to be installed.
python-aptdaemon: Depends: python (< 2.7) but 2.7.2-8 is to be installed.
xserver-xorg-core: Depends: libpixman-1-0 (>= 0.21.6) but 0.20.2-0ubuntu1 is installed.
libpulse-browse0: Depends: libpulse0 (= 0.9.23-1) but 1.0-4 is to be installed.
mint-meta-codecs: Conflicts: gstreamer0.10-plugins-really-bad but 0.10.22-0.2 is installed.

try the following (but use it at your own risk, and in doubt copy-paste the output here)
- disable for moments the mint repo, do a update and full-upgrade
- have to warn you that with this move you will loose the patched libcairo2 (responsible for the fonts, after that they may not look so great - i personally see no big difference)
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Re: LMDE BREAKAGES - tracking Testing - read here first-6/o

Postby tdockery97 on Wed Oct 12, 2011 6:43 pm

zerozero wrote:try the following (but use it at your own risk, and in doubt copy-paste the output here)
- disable for moments the mint repo, do a update and full-upgrade
- have to warn you that with this move you will loose the patched libcairo2 (responsible for the fonts, after that they may not look so great - i personally see no big difference)

Thanks for that post zerozero. I had the problem of held back xorg updates for a couple of weeks. I disabled the Mint repo temporarily, did a full upgrade, and re-enabled the Mint repo. All the upgrades were applied, and I also notice no difference in my font appearance.
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Re: LMDE BREAKAGES - tracking Testing - read here first-6/o

Postby zerozero on Wed Oct 12, 2011 6:46 pm

glad i could be of any help, tdock 8)
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