LMDE BREAKAGES - tracking TESTING
Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2011 8:15 am
debian wheezy is expected to be released as the next debian 7 next weekend (4th/5th may http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-an ... 00006.html)
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this means (for us tracking directly testing) that we will see again the awakening of Testing (this time with codename Jessie) in the day(s) immediately after.
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this topic (more than 2 years long) fulfilled its purpose and will be locked then. it's better (with Jessie's cycle) to start afresh; the new topic is here >>
Upgrade Warnings: LMDE tracking TESTING
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Update 15 may 2012- cinnamon is to be removed with today's updates.
Update 7 may 2012- iceweasel12 is uninstallable in testing, see http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.p ... 50#p576744
Update 12 march 2012- nvidia and VB fail against the new 3.2.0-2 kernel; reinstall the correspondent dkms modules http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.p ... 88#p553773
Update 10 february 2012- kernel 3.2 enters testing - for now we have reports of breakages with nvidia http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.p ... 53#p539934
Update 8 november 2011- GNOME-SHELL migrated to testing in today's updates.
Update 6 october 2011- don't update at the moment the python update brings several breakages
Update 28 september 2011- be careful with the xorg updates, there's severe issues both with ATI and nvidia follow them from here on
Update 10 august 2011- the 3.0 series kernel hits testing and brings issues, follow them from here http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.p ... 60#p458899
Update 5 august 2011- watch the new package dnet-common: it may break your wireless http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.p ... 54#p457254
Update 12 july 2011- if you are not using latest or incoming watch out python-imaging upgrade - it will break MintInstall http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.p ... 71#p447217
Update 2 july 2011- better hold the upgrades for now the new xorg and mesa will break the nvidia and ati drivers http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.p ... 80#p442574
Update 22 june 2011- Kernel updated to 39.2, in 32bit system the update will be to a 39.2-pae kernel; watch some issues with linux-headers not been automatically installed http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.p ... 53#p438314
Update 15 june 2011- Adobe Flash update- if after the update, flash stops working, see Clem's post for troubleshooting http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.p ... 40#p435212 - and many thanks Clem for providing this support
Update 4 june 2011- xchat is to be removed http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.p ... 82#p431082
Update 17 May 2011- F-Spot fails to update http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.p ... 40#p423021
Update 13 May 2011- issues with legacy nvidia-cards: one report here http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.p ... 18#p421407
Update 30 Apr 2011- a couple of updates are due: first grub was updated to v. rc1-13 what brought a few bugs in special setups (raid and multi-hdd systems) and the "error: symbol not found: grub_env_export" see here: http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?f=141&t=71374 here http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.p ... 40#p414088 and here http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?f=141&t=71603 , and lately gstreamer http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.p ... 60#p415117
Update 12 Apr 2011- The .38 kernel arrived to LMDE, together with xorg updates, so expect some issues and follow the thread from this point http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.p ... 00#p407043;
- Also mintsystem pkg was updated to v. 7.7.5 and for now the most notorious change was the removal of the "mark all upgrades" button in synaptic, this thread covers the issue http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.p ... 49&start=0
Update 30 Mar 2011- MintMenu v 5.1.7 has a bug in the show recent document plugin, already fixed in v. 5.1.8 http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.p ... 14#p401735, so please upgrade your system;
Update 23 Mar 2011- the upgrade of kexec-tools to version 2.0.1-4, disabled the ability of reboot into grub, the system reboots, to boot again without going though grub;
Chech viking777 post for more info about the issue
http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.p ... 60#p398542
Update 20 Mar 2011- Attention ATI users: refer to these posts please:
http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.p ... 78#p397258
http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.p ... 78#p397374
http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?f=141&t=68729
Update 16 Mar 2011- LibreOffice came in today's updates, it will ask you to remove part of OpenOffice (even if in the same process other part of OO will be updated -the process is not so clean as in sid, where the change was made in one move).
Depending on the customizations you made on your system the change should be smooth, ending with a full replacement of OO with LO, if for some some reason that doesn't happen there's a new metapackage called libreoffice that should take care of it.
Update 4 Mar 2011- The vlc/libva1 issue is solved. If you pinned/unmarked libva1 from update, can now proceed safely; if you chose to remove vlc, look in synaptic for the new vlc 1.1.7 and install it; if you didn't update your system at all in these days can now do it.
## SOME RANDOM IDEAS ##
And for the ones that come here looking for help, remember a few things:
1- LMDE is based in debian testing (wheezy), so it's not by definition a stable, rock-solid, trouble-free system, as it was said in the blog several times
2- it's not a good idea, just because something broke or a pkg was removed during an upgrade, to pull new pkgs from sid or squeeze (we are confusing the system) and future updates may not come as smooth as they should;
This Debian tool http://release.debian.org/migration/ can give us an idea why a certain pkg/version is not in testing/LMDE
3- MintUpdate is not designed for LMDE yet; if you want a safe experience during updates, please use synaptic or the terminal.
although MU has been probably the Mint tool with more versions and code revisions in the last weeks, and overall it's a lot better than it was in september, we see below that even Clem admits that until the monthly snapshots arrive, the best and safe way to update LMDE will be the use of apt:
now watch the output, sometimes, something is broken (it's testing remember ), if you see something odd, apt wanting to remove half of your installation (can happen), don't panic answer n and wait for a better day to update, it will come soon
## WORTH READING ##
http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?f=141&t=67561
http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?f=34&t=69859
http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debia ... 02.en.html
====
this means (for us tracking directly testing) that we will see again the awakening of Testing (this time with codename Jessie) in the day(s) immediately after.
====
this topic (more than 2 years long) fulfilled its purpose and will be locked then. it's better (with Jessie's cycle) to start afresh; the new topic is here >>
Upgrade Warnings: LMDE tracking TESTING
================
Update 2 Dec 2012- multiarch in testing: convert your system asapDISCLAIMER
this is the thread to report update warnings about LMDE tracking Debian Testing;
for the latest update packs, go here http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewforum.php?f=186 - for the incoming update packs, you should report here http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewforum.php?f=187
if you're using sid/experimental, refer here http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?f=141&t=70230
Update 15 may 2012- cinnamon is to be removed with today's updates.
Update 7 may 2012- iceweasel12 is uninstallable in testing, see http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.p ... 50#p576744
Update 12 march 2012- nvidia and VB fail against the new 3.2.0-2 kernel; reinstall the correspondent dkms modules http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.p ... 88#p553773
Update 10 february 2012- kernel 3.2 enters testing - for now we have reports of breakages with nvidia http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.p ... 53#p539934
Update 8 november 2011- GNOME-SHELL migrated to testing in today's updates.
Update 6 october 2011- don't update at the moment the python update brings several breakages
Update 28 september 2011- be careful with the xorg updates, there's severe issues both with ATI and nvidia follow them from here on
Update 10 august 2011- the 3.0 series kernel hits testing and brings issues, follow them from here http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.p ... 60#p458899
Update 5 august 2011- watch the new package dnet-common: it may break your wireless http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.p ... 54#p457254
Update 12 july 2011- if you are not using latest or incoming watch out python-imaging upgrade - it will break MintInstall http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.p ... 71#p447217
Update 2 july 2011- better hold the upgrades for now the new xorg and mesa will break the nvidia and ati drivers http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.p ... 80#p442574
Update 22 june 2011- Kernel updated to 39.2, in 32bit system the update will be to a 39.2-pae kernel; watch some issues with linux-headers not been automatically installed http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.p ... 53#p438314
Update 15 june 2011- Adobe Flash update- if after the update, flash stops working, see Clem's post for troubleshooting http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.p ... 40#p435212 - and many thanks Clem for providing this support
Update 4 june 2011- xchat is to be removed http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.p ... 82#p431082
Update 17 May 2011- F-Spot fails to update http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.p ... 40#p423021
Update 13 May 2011- issues with legacy nvidia-cards: one report here http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.p ... 18#p421407
Update 30 Apr 2011- a couple of updates are due: first grub was updated to v. rc1-13 what brought a few bugs in special setups (raid and multi-hdd systems) and the "error: symbol not found: grub_env_export" see here: http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?f=141&t=71374 here http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.p ... 40#p414088 and here http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?f=141&t=71603 , and lately gstreamer http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.p ... 60#p415117
Update 12 Apr 2011- The .38 kernel arrived to LMDE, together with xorg updates, so expect some issues and follow the thread from this point http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.p ... 00#p407043;
- Also mintsystem pkg was updated to v. 7.7.5 and for now the most notorious change was the removal of the "mark all upgrades" button in synaptic, this thread covers the issue http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.p ... 49&start=0
Update 30 Mar 2011- MintMenu v 5.1.7 has a bug in the show recent document plugin, already fixed in v. 5.1.8 http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.p ... 14#p401735, so please upgrade your system;
Update 23 Mar 2011- the upgrade of kexec-tools to version 2.0.1-4, disabled the ability of reboot into grub, the system reboots, to boot again without going though grub;
Chech viking777 post for more info about the issue
http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.p ... 60#p398542
Update 20 Mar 2011- Attention ATI users: refer to these posts please:
http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.p ... 78#p397258
http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.p ... 78#p397374
http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?f=141&t=68729
Update 16 Mar 2011- LibreOffice came in today's updates, it will ask you to remove part of OpenOffice (even if in the same process other part of OO will be updated -the process is not so clean as in sid, where the change was made in one move).
Depending on the customizations you made on your system the change should be smooth, ending with a full replacement of OO with LO, if for some some reason that doesn't happen there's a new metapackage called libreoffice that should take care of it.
Update 4 Mar 2011- The vlc/libva1 issue is solved. If you pinned/unmarked libva1 from update, can now proceed safely; if you chose to remove vlc, look in synaptic for the new vlc 1.1.7 and install it; if you didn't update your system at all in these days can now do it.
## SOME RANDOM IDEAS ##
And for the ones that come here looking for help, remember a few things:
1- LMDE is based in debian testing (wheezy), so it's not by definition a stable, rock-solid, trouble-free system, as it was said in the blog several times
We have to understand that it's here that debian tests the next stable release, so issues can happen, but they are often solved quicker than in the *buntu versionsThings are likely to break more often but fixes can also come quicker. For this reason, LMDE requires a deeper knowledge and experience with Linux, dpkg and APT.
2- it's not a good idea, just because something broke or a pkg was removed during an upgrade, to pull new pkgs from sid or squeeze (we are confusing the system) and future updates may not come as smooth as they should;
This Debian tool http://release.debian.org/migration/ can give us an idea why a certain pkg/version is not in testing/LMDE
3- MintUpdate is not designed for LMDE yet; if you want a safe experience during updates, please use synaptic or the terminal.
although MU has been probably the Mint tool with more versions and code revisions in the last weeks, and overall it's a lot better than it was in september, we see below that even Clem admits that until the monthly snapshots arrive, the best and safe way to update LMDE will be the use of apt:
The terminal it's the fastest and easiest way, just open it and doclem wrote:Well, the rationale is different for Ubuntu and Debian Testing.
On Ubuntu, it's about filtering per level to prevent novice users from upgrading sensitive parts of their system. On Debian Testing, since it's rolling, it's about skipping temporary issues until they get resolved... so it's not a matter of filtering per level, but snapshoting the flow of updates and releasing it when it's stable.
With this in mind, mintupdate in its current form is still very much designed for an Ubuntu base. You can enable all 5 levels in it and get the same level of functionality as with apt itself, but what's really needed is a snapshot repository of Debian Testing and a fork of mintupdate designed specifically for LMDE. This will be designed and released after Mint 11.
Code: Select all
sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
## WORTH READING ##
http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?f=141&t=67561
http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?f=34&t=69859
http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debia ... 02.en.html