LMDE BREAKAGES - tracking TESTING

[devicerandom]

devicerandom, are those mysql > sqlite replaces similar to the ones jackmetal saw on the top of this page?

Yes, but I see no actual statement if this is a problem and/or if there are solutions...

[mockturtl]

devicerandom, are those mysql > sqlite replaces similar to the ones jackmetal saw on the top of this page?

Yes, but I see no actual statement if this is a problem and/or if there are solutions...

The [2012-05-30] release of mysql 5.5 wanted to remove mysql 5.1. This is probably okay (try installing it by itself, and see if anything else will be removed).

But the [2012-06-08] update to version 5.5.24+dfsg-2 has a critical bug and should be skipped. The patch 5.5.24+dfsg-3 will enter wheezy tomorrow.

[mockturtl]

gnome-shell 3.4 migrated to testing
check, please, your extensions and themes (both shell and gtk) compatibility.

If you need to rebuild an extension from a git repo, and it doesn't provide a debian/ folder, use

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./autogen.sh --prefix=/usr && make && sudo checkinstall

You probably want to tweak the default package name and version. (It uses the directory name; something like "gnome-shell-extension-weather-neroth-3.4" will provide good defaults.) You can remove it later with dpkg or apt-get, inspect it with apt-cache, etc.

You may need to mkdir -p /usr/share/gnome-shell/extensions for checkinstall to succeed.

[BostonPeng]

A quick question for folks on Testing + KDE. This am I saw there were 102 upgrades, mostly updated KDE 4.7.4 packages. Has anyone taken these updates and had problems or should I be the semi-official guinea pig? I was going to switch to Sid today but when I saw these packages coming in I decided I'd better deal with these first.

ETA: Here's my update report:

The following NEW packages will be installed:
aptitude-common
The following packages will be upgraded:
aptitude aptitude-doc-en at dolphin geoip-database kde-baseapps
kde-baseapps-bin kde-baseapps-data kde-plasma-desktop
kde-runtime kde-runtime-data kde-wallpapers
kde-wallpapers-default kdebase-runtime kdelibs-bin
kdelibs5-data kdelibs5-dev kdelibs5-plugins kdepasswd
kdepimlibs-kio-plugins kdoctools kfind khelpcenter4
konq-plugins konqueror konqueror-nsplugins libakonadi-contact4
libakonadi-kabc4 libakonadi-kcal4 libakonadi-kde4
libakonadi-kmime4 libatk-adaptor libatk-adaptor-data
libgpgme++2 libkabc4 libkactivities-bin libkactivities6
libkcal4 libkcalcore4 libkcalutils4 libkcmutils4
libkde3support4 libkdeclarative5 libkdecore5 libkdesu5
libkdeui5 libkdewebkit5 libkdnssd4 libkemoticons4 libkfile4
libkholidays4 libkhtml5 libkidletime4 libkimap4 libkimproxy4
libkio5 libkjsapi4 libkjsembed4 libkldap4 libkmediaplayer4
libkmime4 libknewstuff2-4 libknewstuff3-4 libknotifyconfig4
libkntlm4 libkonq-common libkonq5-dev libkonq5-templates
libkonq5abi1 libkonqsidebarplugin4a libkontactinterface4
libkparts4 libkpimidentities4 libkpimtextedit4 libkpimutils4
libkprintutils4 libkpty4 libkresources4 libkrosscore4
libkrossui4 libktexteditor4 libktnef4 libkunitconversion4
libkutils4 libmailtransport4 libmicroblog4 libnepomuk4
libnepomukquery4a libnepomukutils4 libplasma3 libqgpgme1
libselinux1 libsemanage-common libsemanage1 libsolid4
libsyndication4 libthreadweaver4 oxygen-icon-theme
plasma-scriptengine-javascript plasma-widget-folderview
ssl-cert
101 upgraded, 1 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Need to get 157 MB of archives.
After this operation, 1,406 kB of additional disk space will be used.

[jlsmith722]

BP
I took the update this morning.
For me it was an update from 4.7.? to 4.8.4-1

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kde-baseapps:
  Installed: 4:4.8.4-1
  Candidate: 4:4.8.4-1
  Version table:
 *** 4:4.8.4-1 0
        500 http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ testing/main amd64 Packages
        100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
jim@newdeb ~ $


the folder view is not working for me and some widgets do not work. But maybe it is me as I am just beginning to explore KDE.

Jim

[BostonPeng]

@jlsmith:
Thanks for the quick response. That version change looks right to me. I'm currently on 4.8.3 so when I saw the bump to 4.8.4 I had to smile. I'm not on 4.7.x anymore because I moved to the kde-qt repos a week or so ago. The folder view issue doesn't bother me since I don't use it but I'll have to check out the plsamoids I do use. Luckily some of what I use was compiled from source so if I need to I can just build them again. I'll just have to make sure how to remove them before I rebuild. I think it's just sudo make uninstall from my build folder but I'll confirm before I run it.

If I have any plasmoid issues after the upgrade I'll post an update with which ones don't want to play well with the new packages for anyone who needs the info.

[zerozero]

just a "FYI" on this kde4.8.4 it's not the most stable kde seen specially with nepomuk enabled.

[BostonPeng]

Based on System Settings > Help > About KDE I'm still at 8.4.3, even after taking this am's dist-upgrades. The good news is that it looks like my plasmoids are all behaving properly so far.

@zerozero:
Thanks for the warning. I'll make sure nepo is disabled, although it usually is on my boxes. And I'll be extra careful when I move to Sid, now looking like it will tomorrow before I pull that trigger.

[zerozero]

Based on System Settings > Help > About KDE I'm still at 8.4.3, even after taking this am's dist-upgrades. The good news is that it looks like my plasmoids are all behaving properly so far.

yeahh because of this:

kdelibs is still at 4.8.3 because of upstream issues. Stay tuned for more info...........................

Unfortunately because of kdelibs still being at 4.8.3 inxi -S shows 4.8.3 as do the about tabs on most apps.

[BostonPeng]

D'oh! I completely forgot about that. Thanks for the reminder zero. Add another round on my tab.

[BostonPeng]

I snagged my DU today and found somethings with the xml-core and kernel upgrade that I'm not sure are issues or not. The upgrade list is

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The following packages will be upgraded:
  aptdaemon aptdaemon-data dnsmasq-base docbook-xml fonts-cantarell fonts-liberation foomatic-db-engine
  iptables libgraphicsmagick3 libvirtodbc0 linux-headers-3.2.0-2-486 linux-headers-3.2.0-2-common
  linux-image-3.2.0-2-486 linux-libc-dev python-aptdaemon python-aptdaemon.gtk3widgets python-defer
  synaptic virtuoso-minimal virtuoso-opensource-6.1-bin virtuoso-opensource-6.1-common xml-core
22 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.

As the upgrade was being performed I noticed these messages in my terminal

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Preparing to replace xml-core 0.13 (using .../xml-core_0.13+nmu1_all.deb) ...
update-catalog: Suppressing action on super catalog. Invoking trigger instead.
update-catalog: Please rebuild the package being set up with a version of debhelper fixing #477751.
Unpacking replacement xml-core ...

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Setting up linux-image-3.2.0-2-486 (3.2.20-1) ...
Running depmod.
Examining /etc/kernel/postinst.d.
run-parts: executing /etc/kernel/postinst.d/dkms 3.2.0-2-486 /boot/vmlinuz-3.2.0-2-486
dkms.conf: Error! No 'BUILT_MODULE_NAME' directive specified for record #0.
Error! Bad conf file.
File:
does not represent a valid dkms.conf file.
run-parts: executing /etc/kernel/postinst.d/initramfs-tools 3.2.0-2-486 /boot/vmlinuz-3.2.0-2-486
update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-3.2.0-2-486
 run-parts: executing /etc/kernel/postinst.d/pm-utils 3.2.0-2-486 /boot/vmlinuz-3.2.0-2-486
run-parts: executing /etc/kernel/postinst.d/update-notifier 3.2.0-2-486 /boot/vmlinuz-3.2.0-2-486
run-parts: executing /etc/kernel/postinst.d/zz-update-grub 3.2.0-2-486 /boot/vmlinuz-3.2.0-2-486
Generating grub.cfg ...
Found background image: linuxmint.png
Found Debian background: linuxmint.png
Found linux image: /boot/vmlinuz-3.2.0-2-486
Found initrd image: /boot/initrd.img-3.2.0-2-486
done

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Setting up linux-headers-3.2.0-2-common (3.2.20-1) ...
Setting up linux-headers-3.2.0-2-486 (3.2.20-1) ...
Examining /etc/kernel/header_postinst.d.
run-parts: executing /etc/kernel/header_postinst.d/dkms 3.2.0-2-486
dkms.conf: Error! No 'BUILT_MODULE_NAME' directive specified for record #0.
Error! Bad conf file.
File:
does not represent a valid dkms.conf file.
Setting up linux-libc-dev:i386 (3.2.20-1) ...

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Setting up docbook-xml (4.5-7.1) ...
Processing triggers for menu ...
W: Operation was interrupted before it could finish
:~$

Is this something I need to address? I tried to attach the complete text file I created of the DU in case it's needed but I kept getting extension not allowed errors so I threw it up on my Dropbox so it can be accessed.

[GeneBenson]

Hi BostonPeng,

Running depmod.
Examining /etc/kernel/postinst.d.
run-parts: executing /etc/kernel/postinst.d/dkms 3.2.0-2-486 /boot/vmlinuz-3.2.0-2-486
dkms.conf: Error! No 'BUILT_MODULE_NAME' directive specified for record #0.
Error! Bad conf file.
File:
does not represent a valid dkms.conf file.

I used to get this error as well. For me it was caused by ndiswrapper-dkms being installed as part of the initial LMDE setup. I don't need ndiswrapper-dkms since I have a wired connection. After removing it I have not seen this error again. The message seems to be just a warning because I never had any problems resulting from a new kernel being installed.

Preparing to replace xml-core 0.13 (using .../xml-core_0.13+nmu1_all.deb) ...
update-catalog: Suppressing action on super catalog. Invoking trigger instead.
update-catalog: Please rebuild the package being set up with a version of debhelper fixing #477751.

Also saw this as well, but can't offer any help with this one. I believe it's referring to this bug report:
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=477751

[BostonPeng]

Thanks Gene. I had a feeling I didn't need to worry too much but it's good to see what prompted the errors. I can't remove ndiswrapper-dkms since I use WiFi as my net access but it's evidently not that big a deal if it hasn't raised more cries. As far as bug #477751 goes I'm sure it will be fixed eventually. Until I see problems arising from it I won't worry about it either.

I hope you and everyone has a nice weekend, without the gully washer I found when I waled out of the door this morning. It's moved out but it was definitely a ducky start to the day.

[defcon]

Cant install mint-artwork-xfce
It depends on mint-artwork-debian, and this one depends on gtk2-engines-clearlooks which is not available

[GregE]

Cant install mint-artwork-xfce
It depends on mint-artwork-debian, and this one depends on gtk2-engines-clearlooks which is not available

Are you trying to add Xfce to an existing LMDE that is Cinnamon/Gnome/Mate? It has always been difficult to recreate the look and feel of LMDE Xfce Edition when retrofitted. A clean install of the Xfce Edition will work.

If someone has an easy way to convert an existing install to Xfce it would be helpful to share. It is easy to just add Xfce and start with the standard Xfce layout of a toolbar at the top and the second toolbar launcher at the bottom and normal Xfce menus. But that is not the same as the Linuxmint setup. You could remove half of your installed system, but instead it is probably better to new install.

[defcon]

No, it was the Xfce edition. Updated from latest to testing.

[GregE]

No, it was the Xfce edition. Updated from latest to testing.

OK. sorry to assume.

gtk2-engines-clearlooks is an imaginary package that is part of gtk2-engines and the update to gtk2-engines is what kills the dependency. If you go back and search this forum you will find a discussion of this issue. I will butt out now. ZeroZero may be able to give you a better answer.

[zerozero]

gtk2-engines-clearlooks doesn't exists (anymore) but mint-artwork-* depends on it. the issue is old

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amadeu@zerozero:~$ apt policy gtk2-engines
gtk2-engines:
  Installed: 1:2.20.2-1
  Candidate: 1:2.20.2-1
  Version table:
 *** 1:2.20.2-1 0
        500 http://debian.linuxmint.com/latest/ testing/main amd64 Packages
        100 /var/lib/dpkg/status


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amadeu@zerozero:~$ apt content gtk2-engines
/.
/usr
/usr/lib
/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu
/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/gtk-2.0
/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/gtk-2.0/2.10.0
/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/gtk-2.0/2.10.0/engines
/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/gtk-2.0/2.10.0/engines/libredmond95.so
/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/gtk-2.0/2.10.0/engines/libhcengine.so
/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/gtk-2.0/2.10.0/engines/libthinice.so
/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/gtk-2.0/2.10.0/engines/libglide.so
/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/gtk-2.0/2.10.0/engines/libmist.so
/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/gtk-2.0/2.10.0/engines/libindustrial.so
/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/gtk-2.0/2.10.0/engines/libcrux-engine.so
/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/gtk-2.0/2.10.0/engines/libclearlooks.so
/usr/share
/usr/share/doc
/usr/share/doc/gtk2-engines
/usr/share/doc/gtk2-engines/copyright
/usr/share/doc/gtk2-engines/changelog.Debian.gz
/usr/share/doc/gtk2-engines/changelog.gz
/usr/share/doc/gtk2-engines/README
/usr/share/doc/gtk2-engines/NEWS.gz
/usr/share/doc/gtk2-engines/AUTHORS
/usr/share/gtk-engines
/usr/share/gtk-engines/glide.xml
/usr/share/gtk-engines/industrial.xml
/usr/share/gtk-engines/hcengine.xml
/usr/share/gtk-engines/thinice.xml
/usr/share/gtk-engines/crux-engine.xml
/usr/share/gtk-engines/redmond95.xml
/usr/share/gtk-engines/clearlooks.xml
/usr/share/gtk-engines/mist.xml
/usr/share/themes
/usr/share/themes/Crux
/usr/share/themes/Crux/gtk-2.0
/usr/share/themes/Crux/gtk-2.0/gtkrc
/usr/share/themes/Clearlooks
/usr/share/themes/Clearlooks/gtk-2.0
/usr/share/themes/Clearlooks/gtk-2.0/gtkrc
/usr/share/themes/ThinIce
/usr/share/themes/ThinIce/gtk-2.0
/usr/share/themes/ThinIce/gtk-2.0/gtkrc
/usr/share/themes/Redmond
/usr/share/themes/Redmond/gtk-2.0
/usr/share/themes/Redmond/gtk-2.0/gtkrc
/usr/share/themes/Mist
/usr/share/themes/Mist/gtk-2.0
/usr/share/themes/Mist/gtk-2.0/gtkrc
/usr/share/themes/Industrial
/usr/share/themes/Industrial/gtk-2.0
/usr/share/themes/Industrial/gtk-2.0/gtkrc
amadeu@zerozero:~$


and mint-artwork-* depends on clearlooks
all is fine (for now) in latest/incoming but the updates to gtk2-engines conflict with mint-artwork-*
will be interesting to see the solution for UP5

[defcon]

When UP5 is planned?

[iLobster]

In short: evolution update to 3.4.3. tries to remove cinnamon (I use half-unoffical 1.4-UP2 with libcogl5 dependeicy fix). As I know UP3 is almost same as UP2.
So there is need for "cinnamon1.4-UP4" or whatever.