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Re: LMDE BREAKAGES - read here first - Update 12 july 2011

Postby NeoMint on Fri Jul 15, 2011 1:25 pm

Those nvidia (non-free) driver breakages look to be what recently got fixed; in unstable (due to multi-arch adjustment folder errors). If your nvidia, direct graphics has failed, the easiest thing, might be, to Google, and install the smxi scripts (helps with managing your entire system; immensely), including it's graphics card install section. If the debian way, for nvidia, doesn't work, there are other options (about 3 major, and automated ways, to make nvidia just work). Then, in a few days, you can just set it back, to the Debian way, for nvidia install.
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Re: LMDE BREAKAGES - read here first - Update 12 july 2011

Postby josefg on Fri Jul 15, 2011 6:30 pm

fliteshare wrote:
gcp wrote:RE: python-imaging will break software manager
I never go backwards. python-imaging 1.1.7-4 in the SID repository will fix the problem. :lol:


Just a newbie question
How do I get Synaptic to install "python-imaging 1.1.7-4" ?


You wait until it gets released... :(
That's why fliteshare put the smiley behind his remark :wink:
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Re: LMDE BREAKAGES - read here first - Update 12 july 2011

Postby NRI on Fri Jul 15, 2011 6:34 pm

[quote]can you see in /var/log/apt/history.log which pkgs where updated/installed last time and also can you give us the output of
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inxi -r

Thanks, zerozero. Here we go:
History.log is the following:
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Start-Date: 2011-07-13  23:00:38
Commandline: /usr/sbin/synaptic --hide-main-window --non-interactive --parent-window-id 58720292 -o Synaptic::closeZvt=true --progress-str Please wait, this can take some time --finish-str Update is complete --set-selections-file /tmp/tmpOQvA8a
Install: live-config-doc:amd64 (3.0~a23-1, automatic)
Upgrade: sysvinit-utils:amd64 (2.88dsf-13.10, 2.88dsf-13.11), live-config:amd64 (3.0~a22-1, 3.0~a23-1), live-config-sysvinit:amd64 (3.0~a22-1, 3.0~a23-1), grep:amd64 (2.8-2, 2.9-1), sysv-rc:amd64 (2.88dsf-13.10, 2.88dsf-13.11), initscripts:amd64 (2.88dsf-13.10, 2.88dsf-13.11), sysvinit:amd64 (2.88dsf-13.10, 2.88dsf-13.11)
End-Date: 2011-07-13  23:01:15

Start-Date: 2011-07-14  19:43:25
Commandline: /usr/sbin/synaptic --hide-main-window --non-interactive --parent-window-id 62914596 -o Synaptic::closeZvt=true --progress-str Please wait, this can take some time --finish-str Update is complete --set-selections-file /tmp/tmpuqbMzK
Upgrade: libgtk2.0-common:amd64 (2.24.4-3, 2.24.5-2), libgail18:amd64 (2.24.4-3, 2.24.5-2), python-gobject-cairo:amd64 (2.28.6-2, 2.28.6-4), libcupsppdc1:amd64 (1.4.6-11+b1, 1.4.7-1), libcupsimage2:amd64 (1.4.6-11+b1, 1.4.7-1), libcupscgi1:amd64 (1.4.6-11+b1, 1.4.7-1), libcupsdriver1:amd64 (1.4.6-11+b1, 1.4.7-1), cups-client:amd64 (1.4.6-11+b1, 1.4.7-1), gir1.2-gtk-3.0:amd64 (3.0.10-1, 3.0.11-1), cups-ppdc:amd64 (1.4.6-11+b1, 1.4.7-1), libgtk-3-bin:amd64 (3.0.10-1, 3.0.11-1), cups-common:amd64 (1.4.6-11, 1.4.7-1), libcups2:amd64 (1.4.6-11+b1, 1.4.7-1), libgtk-3-0:amd64 (3.0.10-1, 3.0.11-1), cups:amd64 (1.4.6-11+b1, 1.4.7-1), libgail-common:amd64 (2.24.4-3, 2.24.5-2), python-gobject:amd64 (2.28.6-2, 2.28.6-4), gtk2-engines-pixbuf:amd64 (2.24.4-3, 2.24.5-2), libgtk2.0-bin:amd64 (2.24.4-3, 2.24.5-2), libcupsmime1:amd64 (1.4.6-11+b1, 1.4.7-1), libjs-jquery:amd64 (1.6.1-1, 1.6.2-1), libgtk-3-common:amd64 (3.0.10-1, 3.0.11-1), libgtk2.0-0:amd64 (2.24.4-3, 2.24.5-2)
End-Date: 2011-07-14  19:45:06


And this is what inxi -r says:
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Repos:     Active apt sources in file: /etc/apt/sources.list
           deb http://packages.linuxmint.com/ debian main upstream import
           deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian testing main contrib non-free
           deb http://security.debian.org/ testing/updates main contrib non-free
           deb http://www.debian-multimedia.org testing main non-free
           Active apt sources in file: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/dropbox.list
           deb http://linux.dropbox.com/ubuntu maverick main
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Re: LMDE BREAKAGES - read here first - Update 12 july 2011

Postby zerozero on Fri Jul 15, 2011 7:05 pm

well, NRI, that's what gives playing with unstable, you get better support here viewtopic.php?f=141&t=70230&start=160
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Re: LMDE BREAKAGES - read here first - Update 12 july 2011

Postby NRI on Fri Jul 15, 2011 7:13 pm

Thanks, zerozero. Lesson learned. Hopefully, debian will fix this problem soon. :(
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Re: LMDE BREAKAGES - read here first - Update 12 july 2011

Postby zerozero on Fri Jul 15, 2011 7:24 pm

i wouldn't trust that much, unfortunately :(
this is other of the Gnome3 signs creping in into debian, and there's no way to stop it; the next couple months are going to be very disruptive in gnome-land;
you can either do the whole jump and install the shell ( viewtopic.php?f=141&t=65745&start=120 ), turn back to xfce (debian based as well) or if you want to stick with gnome, follow at least for now the safe way and go with the update packs ( viewtopic.php?f=141&t=76556 )
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Re: LMDE BREAKAGES - read here first - Update 12 july 2011

Postby NRI on Fri Jul 15, 2011 8:17 pm

Thanks again, zerozero. Right now, I have edit my sources list to go with the stable version. Also, I am trying to roll back the changes and revert back to the old versions. If this doesn't work, I have to find out how to either put XFCE or LXDE on my machine. If all of that fails, I might just go the shell route for Gnome 3. :cry:
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Re: LMDE BREAKAGES - read here first - Update 12 july 2011

Postby tux-sven on Sat Jul 16, 2011 6:30 am

NR1: If you (or somebody else) want to run LMDE with Debian stable, you can read about how to do here: http://community.linuxmint.com/tutorial/view/497

You will get a super-stable Linux Mint Debian system! :lol:

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Re: LMDE BREAKAGES - read here first - Update 12 july 2011

Postby delinquent on Sat Jul 16, 2011 11:00 am

Hi guys,
like some of you, the latest updates broke my shinny LMDE, because I was using Nvidia proprietary drivers, and was too stupid to notice that the update was going to remove them! Damn.
So after the next reboot, I'm stuck with a black screen asking me to login... :(
I did some research on the Internet and found out that it's still possible to reinstall packages if the ".deb" files are still on the system, even an older version. I also checked the history in Synaptics to know what packages have been upgraded before the breakage.
Here is a list of files and versions you have to "restore".
libgl1-mesa-dev (7.10.2-3)
libgl1-mesa-dri (7.10.2-3)
libgl1-mesa-glx (7.10.2-3)
libglu1-mesa (7.10.2-3)
mesa-common-dev (7.10.2-3)
xserver-common (2:1.10.2-1+wheezy1)
xserver-xorg-core (2:1.10.2-1+wheezy1)

Then you'll be able to reinstall:
libgl1-nvidia-alternatives
libgl1-nvidia-glx
nvidia-glx

Now, all the installed packages (and all versions) are supposed to be stored in "/var/cache/apt/archives", so if you are stuck at the black screen, do the following (change the "i386" in the commands below if you use a 64 bit system):
- Login with the usual username
- type "cd /var/cache/apt/archives"
- type "sudo dpkg -i libgl1-mesa-glx_7.10.2-3_i386.deb"
- type "sudo dpkg -i libglu1-mesa_7.10.2-3_i386.deb"
- type "sudo dpkg -i mesa-common-dev_7.10.2-3_i386.deb"
- type "sudo dpkg -i xserver-common_2%3a1.10.2-1+wheezy1_all.deb"
- type "sudo dpkg -i xserver-xorg-core_2%3a1.10.2-1+wheezy1_i386.deb"
- type "sudo dpkg -i libgl1-mesa-dri_7.10.2-3_i386.deb"
- type "sudo dpkg -i libgl1-mesa-dev_7.10.2-3_i386.deb"

Once it's done, you can reinstall the Nvidia packages by typing:
- sudo apt-get install libgl1-nvidia-alternatives
- sudo apt-get install libgl1-nvidia-glx
- sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx

what's happen if I don't have it /var/cache/apt/archives cause I did apt-get autoremove for example. how can I fix it?
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Re: LMDE BREAKAGES - read here first - Update 12 july 2011

Postby NRI on Sat Jul 16, 2011 11:17 am

Thank you , zerozero and Sven. Great insights and very helpful links.

Last night I rebuilt the system, because trying to roll back the updates totally didn't work. Then, I changed the dependencies to a more stable version and hopefully, this will have taken care of the problem. It would be great if LMDE would come out every once in a while with a new ISO. Downloading more than 500MB of new packages/updates can be a very long project for people with slower connections.
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Re: LMDE BREAKAGES - read here first - Update 12 july 2011

Postby Gerd50 on Sat Jul 16, 2011 6:41 pm

@delinquent,

if you don't have the files to restore, add 'unstable' repos temporarily to your sources.list.

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deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian unstable main contrib non-free

install nvidia-glx and don't forget

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sudo nvidia-xconfig

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Re: LMDE BREAKAGES - read here first - Update 12 july 2011

Postby hinto on Mon Jul 18, 2011 9:00 am

These forums are great!!!. (this thread in particular solved my initramfs problem during an update)
I've been in Linux now for 8 years after having no/0/zip/nada experience in *nix (except for "HelloWorld" in college). I "cut my teeth" as a Windows 3.0 developer way back when.
Since 2003 (when I started using 64-bit Linux), forums like this, have helped me not only develop valuable Linux expertise, but also evangelize Linux and get rid of a lot of the FUD out there.
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Re: LMDE BREAKAGES - read here first - Update 12 july 2011

Postby zerozero on Tue Jul 19, 2011 1:50 pm

just to report that the issue with nvidia is now solved in testing, v.07-5 has migrated from sid, so if you are tracking the testing repo, the dist-upgrade should be clean now;
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Re: LMDE BREAKAGES - read here first - Update 12 july 2011

Postby viking777 on Tue Jul 19, 2011 2:14 pm

zerozero wrote:just to report that the issue with nvidia is now solved in testing, v.07-5 has migrated from sid, so if you are tracking the testing repo, the dist-upgrade should be clean now;


It is.

All you need is patience :D
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Re: LMDE BREAKAGES - read here first - Update 12 july 2011

Postby zerozero on Tue Jul 19, 2011 5:32 pm

very true, patience 8)

and what about ATI, can someone update the status? is the 11-6-2 v. that migrated to testing in the 15th safe?
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Re: LMDE BREAKAGES - read here first - Update 12 july 2011

Postby gazza on Tue Jul 19, 2011 8:12 pm

just a thank you to zerozero for the heads up on the latest nvidia issue being fixed. I did the 'backport' option and used old packages. Today I updated the several hundred meg, with a little trepidation, and was pleasently surprized to find after a "full" reboot (shutdown, startup, I personally hate kexec) no apparent issues :D
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Re: LMDE BREAKAGES - read here first - Update 12 july 2011

Postby mandeep on Wed Jul 20, 2011 12:29 am

This update worked for me on AMD 64 bit with nvidia graphics. :D
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Re: LMDE BREAKAGES - read here first - Update 12 july 2011

Postby Gerd50 on Wed Jul 20, 2011 7:13 pm

Todays update was the first one after about four weeks without trouble shootings necessary within or afterwards. Good times
for a new ISO :)
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Re: LMDE BREAKAGES - read here first - Update 12 july 2011

Postby viking777 on Thu Jul 21, 2011 5:51 am

Gerd50 wrote:Todays update was the first one after about four weeks without trouble shootings necessary within or afterwards. Good times
for a new ISO :)


I will tell you something Gerd50, it never ceases to amaze me how different peoples experiences can be with virtually the same product. For me today's update was the first one in months that I even had to think about (the mesa/nvidia thing needed no thought it was so obvious). I had to think about this one because it changed grub - something which I had already modified myself.

I guess this is the thinking behind the new monthly update packs idea, trying to iron out these differences, although I have to say it is not an idea that appeals to me in the least.

Anyway I am glad you are happy with LMDE as it was originally produced, I am too :D
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Re: LMDE BREAKAGES - read here first - Update 12 july 2011

Postby xircon on Thu Jul 21, 2011 9:00 am

ATI update of today successfully applied - mesa packages un-ignored (is that a word :))all working as expected. (ATI Mobilty Radeon HD5400 series)
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