LMDE 201109 - Important INFO

[michaelzap]

Then i still wonder what you're going to do when Debian Testing hits the freezing stage for several weeks or even months afaik and a few or maybe to no updates will be released.... except for the release-critical bug fixes in Debian.

6.5.1 What about "testing"? How is it `frozen'?

When the "testing" distribution is mature enough, the release manager starts `freezing' it. The normal propagation delays are increased to ensure that as little as possible new bugs from "unstable" enter "testing".

After a while, the "testing" distribution becomes truly `frozen'. This means that all new packages that are to propagate to the "testing" are held back, unless they include release-critical bug fixes. The "testing" distribution can also remain in such a deep freeze during the so-called `test cycles', when the release is imminent.

We keep a record of bugs in the "testing" distribution that can hold off a package from being released, or bugs that can hold back the whole release. For details, please see current testing release information.

Once that bug count lowers to maximum acceptable values, the frozen "testing" distribution is declared "stable" and released with a version number.

With each new release, the previous "stable" distribution becomes obsolete and moves to the archive. For more information please see Debian archive.

http://www.debian.org/doc/FAQ/ch-ftparchives

With that LMDE isn't really a fully true rolling distro imho, correct me if i'm wrong... i'm also still learning stuff. But... it's still a great distro which i love to use.

Sorry for going offtopic guys and ladies.

Well, that just happened with Squeeze and in that case all I did was wait it out. I might switch to Sid next time. I don't update obsessively, but sometimes I do want or need newer packages.

I'm not against the update pack strategy that LMDE is trying now. On the contrary, I think it's a great idea and it will make updating a lot less stressful for most people. Personally I'm comfortable with the Debian repos, especially if the update pack system is broken right now.

[michaelzap]

michaelzap: the issue is not updating from the latest (201108 or 201109) iso to the testing repos, the issue is the sudo update that comes with it, and that we in testing got it more than 20 days ago viewtopic.php?f=198&t=67502&start=1120
eventually, if you didn't fix your PATH, your sudo is still broken.

Hmm. I didn't have this problem with my #! system tracking testing (and updated through yesterday), but I suppose not every system has the same experience. I definitely was not asked whether or not to replace the sudoers file, since I would have done that. Once the updates finally did get applied, my sudoers file was correct and doesn't seem to need any fixing.

[dodgefan]

my sources.list looks like this

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deb http://packages.linuxmint.com/ debian main upstream import
deb http://debian.linuxmint.com/latest testing main contrib non-free
deb http://security.debian.org/ testing/updates main contrib non-free
deb http://www.debian-multimedia.org testing main non-free


i just installed it yesterday and have been doing all the updates that the Update Manager tells me i need, i havent disabled any repos and so far no issues (32bit xfce version)

[twa]

dodgefan,
your sources.list is the default one in the 201109 iso (if a'm not wrong)
sure that updates install and your update manager should now be like the one below.
problems will arise when update pack 3 is released since to my understanding pkgs in multimedia e security cud be
incompatible with pkgs in pack 2.
(or is my unerstanding wrong ??? pls correct me thxs)

[zerozero]

you have now in the blog all info needed to change the sources.list, update and upgrade and install pkgs
http://blog.linuxmint.com/?p=1836

and for the record only, your sources.list should look like this (if you are following latest)

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deb http://packages.linuxmint.com/ debian main upstream import
deb http://debian.linuxmint.com/latest testing main contrib non-free
deb http://debian.linuxmint.com/latest/security testing/updates main contrib non-free
deb http://debian.linuxmint.com/latest/multimedia testing main non-free

edit: proxima_centauri has it all very well explained here

[dodgefan]

thanks twa and zerozero! actually i had installed the PAE kernel and when i rebooted my keyboard stopped working, i like the 64 bit kernel more anyway so im doing a new install and just read the blog about what to do for this so i should be good to go

thanks!