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Firefox and Thunderbird 12
Hi new to Linux mint Debian and wondering when will version 12 come out for Linux Debian 2012-4. If anyone could tell me that would be great thank you=].
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Re: Firefox and Thunderbird 12
You can add Firefox yourself via instructions here: http://palupix.blogspot.ca/2012/04/how- ... 12-on.html
I don't see Firefox / Thunderbird 12 on any of the repositories.. so we will have to wait for a while if you want it do be done automatically.
I don't see Firefox / Thunderbird 12 on any of the repositories.. so we will have to wait for a while if you want it do be done automatically.
Re: Firefox and Thunderbird 12
these instructions are for ubuntu, not debianGodwin wrote:You can add Firefox yourself via instructions here: http://palupix.blogspot.ca/2012/04/how- ... 12-on.html
I don't see Firefox / Thunderbird 12 on any of the repositories.. so we will have to wait for a while if you want it do be done automatically.
- don't give instructions that might break others installs!
- as a general rule don't use ppa's in debian (if you do, you break it for sure)
firefox12 might take some time to come to lmde because is packaged by the mint team (there's no firefox in debian);
if you want to stay absolutely uptodate add http://mozilla.debian.net/ to your sources.list and pick wheezy in the first drop-down box and release for the current version, or beta or aurora in the second (and you have iceweasel, firefox unbranded)
Re: Firefox and Thunderbird 12
Or just do it the easy way, download both Firefox and Thunderbird from Mozilla. Much easier than relying on any repo, and they both get updated any time Mozilla releases a new version. Firefox updated for me yesterday, Thunderbird today.zerozero wrote:these instructions are for ubuntu, not debianGodwin wrote:You can add Firefox yourself via instructions here: http://palupix.blogspot.ca/2012/04/how- ... 12-on.html
I don't see Firefox / Thunderbird 12 on any of the repositories.. so we will have to wait for a while if you want it do be done automatically.
- don't give instructions that might break others installs!
- as a general rule don't use ppa's in debian (if you do, you break it for sure)
firefox12 might take some time to come to lmde because is packaged by the mint team (there's no firefox in debian);
if you want to stay absolutely uptodate add http://mozilla.debian.net/ to your sources.list and pick wheezy in the first drop-down box and release for the current version, or beta or aurora in the second (and you have iceweasel, firefox unbranded)
download, extract, create a shortcut and you are good to go.
Tech Patterns :: Switching from Debian Iceweasel to Firefox, permanently : http://techpatterns.com/forums/about1435.html
Re: Firefox and Thunderbird 12
craigevil, I can't help but comment on the disconnect between what you just said in your post and the quote in your signature. Given the sentiment in your signature, I'd have thought you would encourage the use of the mozilla.debian.net repos.
To actually contribute productively to the conversation, I have used the mozilla.debian.net repos for a long time and never been disappointed. You get updates much faster than through the regular Debian repos (for Iceweasel) or the Mint repos (for Firefox). I have never found any actual difference between Iceweasel and Firefox other than the name and icon.
To actually contribute productively to the conversation, I have used the mozilla.debian.net repos for a long time and never been disappointed. You get updates much faster than through the regular Debian repos (for Iceweasel) or the Mint repos (for Firefox). I have never found any actual difference between Iceweasel and Firefox other than the name and icon.
Re: Re: Firefox and Thunderbird 12
for a long time after Debian switched to iceweasel it lagged behind Firefox, Icedove still does, even in experimental it lags. much easier to stay current using them both straight from Mozilla.gavinhc wrote:craigevil, I can't help but comment on the disconnect between what you just said in your post and the quote in your signature. Given the sentiment in your signature, I'd have thought you would encourage the use of the mozilla.debian.net repos.
To actually contribute productively to the conversation, I have used the mozilla.debian.net repos for a long time and never been disappointed. You get updates much faster than through the regular Debian repos (for Iceweasel) or the Mint repos (for Firefox). I have never found any actual difference between Iceweasel and Firefox other than the name and icon.
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Re: Firefox and Thunderbird 12
I should post an apology.. yes don't use PPA.
This is how I upgrade.
0. Verify that your firefox / thunderbird is installed in /opt directory
1. sudo apt-get remove your firefox / thunderbird (so it is removed from the apt source).
2. Download the latest tar.gz from Mozilla website.
3. Extract the archive to any directory you have access to, and just drag and drop the firefox or thunderbird directory into /opt
4. Since you haven't change the location of either binaries from the default location, all your exisiting short cuts / launchers should work as before.
The built in upgrading for firefox and thunderbird seems to work fairly well. However for Thunderbird updates to work properly you have to use gksu. See http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.p ... 0&t=101067
This is how I upgrade.
0. Verify that your firefox / thunderbird is installed in /opt directory
1. sudo apt-get remove your firefox / thunderbird (so it is removed from the apt source).
2. Download the latest tar.gz from Mozilla website.
3. Extract the archive to any directory you have access to, and just drag and drop the firefox or thunderbird directory into /opt
4. Since you haven't change the location of either binaries from the default location, all your exisiting short cuts / launchers should work as before.
The built in upgrading for firefox and thunderbird seems to work fairly well. However for Thunderbird updates to work properly you have to use gksu. See http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.p ... 0&t=101067
Re: Firefox and Thunderbird 12
Just one question zerozero,zerozero wrote: firefox12 might take some time to come to lmde because is packaged by the mint team (there's no firefox in debian);
if you want to stay absolutely uptodate add http://mozilla.debian.net/ to your sources.list and pick wheezy in the first drop-down box and release for the current version, or beta or aurora in the second (and you have iceweasel, firefox unbranded)
If I add the repos for icewesel release suggested by mozilla.debian.net for testing (deb http://your-mirror.debian.org/debian experimental main),my whole system gets upgraded to experimental on an upgrade.
What's going on?
I could install iceweasel beta fine because its repo is deb http://mozilla.debian.net/ experimental iceweasel-beta, and not a repo for the whole of debian....
Re: Firefox and Thunderbird 12
i can test this later, but my guess is that since iceweasel (release) is now in experimental, mozilla gives you that repo to install from, while the beta and aurora v. are still from their repo.gothmog123 wrote: What's going on?
but you should do
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$ apt-get update
$ apt-get install -t experimental iceweasel
Re: Firefox and Thunderbird 12
Oh ok thanks, I will use this method. Didn't know it was that simple.zerozero wrote: explicitly install iceweasel from experimental and then better disable again the repo (as you only want iceweasel from there and until a new v. is available there's no point having it enabled)
Re: Firefox and Thunderbird 12
or you can add this rule to
this way you can keep experimental repo on but becaues you set a lower priority only if you explicitly install from there you are going to see those pkgs, otherwise they will "hidden"
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/etc/apt/preferences
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Package: *
Pin: release a=experimental
Pin-Priority: 50
Re: Firefox and Thunderbird 12
Packages in experimental are automatically set to 1. They do not get installed unless you specifically install them, similar to backports on Debian Stable. Having it in your sources.list does absolutely nothing until you specifically tell apt to install from there.
Installs exactly 3 packages.
No need to use pinning or to remove it from your sources.list.
Note the output of apt-cache policy
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apt-get install -t experimental iceweasel
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The following NEW packages will be installed:
libmozjs12d xulrunner-12.0
The following packages will be upgraded:
iceweasel
1 upgraded, 2 newly installed
Note the output of apt-cache policy
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1 http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ experimental/non-free i386 Packages
release o=Debian,a=experimental,n=experimental,l=Debian,c=non-free
origin ftp.us.debian.org
1 http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ experimental/contrib i386 Packages
release o=Debian,a=experimental,n=experimental,l=Debian,c=contrib
origin ftp.us.debian.org
1 http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ experimental/main i386 Packages
release o=Debian,a=experimental,n=experimental,l=Debian,c=main
origin ftp.us.debian.org
Re: Firefox and Thunderbird 12
craigevil,
unfortunately with lmde is not like that because as default lmde has this preferences filewhat makes all pkgs from debian jump to 500
so if the user adds in order to get just iceweasel, needs as well the rule i posted above in the preferences file
tested with
ahh, and adding experimental to latest/incoming at this moment would result in
(not to bad but a breakage for sure)
unfortunately with lmde is not like that because as default lmde has this preferences file
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amadeu@zerozero:~$ cat /etc/apt/preferences
Package: *
Pin: release o=linuxmint
Pin-Priority: 700
Package: *
Pin: origin packages.linuxmint.com
Pin-Priority: 700
Package: *
Pin: release o=Debian
Pin-Priority: 500
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amadeu@zerozero:~$ apt policy iceweasel
iceweasel:
Installed: (none)
Candidate: 12.0-3
Version table:
12.0-3 0
500 http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ experimental/main amd64 Packages
10.0.2-1 0
500 http://debian.linuxmint.com/latest/ testing/main amd64 Packages
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deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian experimental main
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Package: *
Pin: release a=experimental
Pin-Priority: 50
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amadeu@zerozero:~$ inxi -r
Repos: Active apt sources in file: /etc/apt/sources.list
deb http://packages.linuxmint.com/ debian main upstream import
deb http://debian.linuxmint.com/latest testing main contrib non-free
deb http://debian.linuxmint.com/latest/security testing/updates main contrib non-free
deb http://debian.linuxmint.com/latest/multimedia testing main non-free
deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian experimental main
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amadeu@zerozero:~$ apt dist-upgrade
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
Calculating upgrade... Done
The following packages will be REMOVED:
evince gs-cjk-resource gthumb libgl1-mesa-dev libreoffice libreoffice-base
libreoffice-filter-mobiledev libreoffice-java-common
libreoffice-report-builder-bin nvidia-glx nvidia-kernel-dkms
The following NEW packages will be installed:
bootlogd libblas3 libcmis-0.2-0 libcogl9 libexiv2-11 libexttextcat-data
libexttextcat0 libgxps2 liblapack3 libpoppler19 libservlet2.4-java
python-dbus-dev tcl8.6
The following packages have been kept back:
accountsservice apache2.2-bin brasero brasero-common compiz-core compiz-gtk
compiz-plugins compizconfig-backend-gconf compizconfig-settings-manager cpp
g++ gcc gir1.2-clutter-1.0 gir1.2-evince-3.0 gir1.2-gnomebluetooth-1.0
gnome-bluetooth libaccountsservice0 libbrasero-media3-1 libclutter-1.0-0
libclutter-gst-1.0-0 libclutter-gtk-1.0-0 libcompizconfig0 libgcj-bc
libgl1-mesa-glx libglapi-mesa libmission-control-plugins0 libmutter0
libpurple0 libreoffice-base-core libreoffice-calc libreoffice-common
libreoffice-core libreoffice-draw libreoffice-gnome libreoffice-gtk
libreoffice-impress libreoffice-math libreoffice-style-galaxy
libreoffice-style-tango libreoffice-writer python-compizconfig python-uno
telepathy-mission-control-5 xserver-xorg-video-fbdev
xserver-xorg-video-nouveau xserver-xorg-video-r128
The following packages will be upgraded:
debian-archive-keyring evince-common exiv2 findutils fonts-opensymbol
gir1.2-accountsservice-1.0 gir1.2-clutter-gst-1.0 gir1.2-cogl-1.0
gir1.2-coglpango-1.0 gir1.2-gtkclutter-1.0 gir1.2-mutter-3.0
gir1.2-totem-1.0 gthumb-data ifupdown initscripts libblas3gf libcogl-common
libcogl-pango0 libdecoration0 libevince3-3 libfftw3-3 libgcj-common
libgl1-mesa-dri libglu1-mesa libhsqldb-java liblapack3gf libpixman-1-0
libpostproc52 libpurple-bin libqt4-dbus libqt4-network libqt4-xml libqtcore4
libqtgui4 libreoffice-emailmerge libshout3 libsigsegv2 libsvga1 libtotem0
linux-libc-dev make mesa-common-dev mutter-common patch pidgin pidgin-data
poppler-data poppler-utils python-dbus qdbus sysv-rc sysvinit sysvinit-utils
tcl totem totem-common totem-mozilla totem-plugins ttf-opensymbol uno-libs3
ure
61 upgraded, 13 newly installed, 11 to remove and 46 not upgraded.
Need to get 99.3 MB of archives.
After this operation, 39.0 MB disk space will be freed.
Do you want to continue [Y/n]? n
Re: Firefox and Thunderbird 12
Nice didn't know that.
In that case pin experimental
Package: *
Pin: release a=experimental
Pin-Priority: 1
Or you can pin it so it tracks only the packages you want.
Aptpinning - Debian Wiki - http://wiki.debian.org/AptPinning
In that case pin experimental
Package: *
Pin: release a=experimental
Pin-Priority: 1
Or you can pin it so it tracks only the packages you want.
AptPreferences - Debian Wiki - http://wiki.debian.org/AptPreferencesOptionally, if you want to track a given package from experimental, add the following to /etc/apt/preferences:
Package: iceweasel
Pin: release a=experimental
Pin-Priority: 800
Aptpinning - Debian Wiki - http://wiki.debian.org/AptPinning
Re: Firefox and Thunderbird 12
I tried this and both worked, but Thunderbird looked ugly. So I deleted the folders firefox and thunderbird from /opt and re-installed both from apt-get install. Now neither of them work. Thunderbird crashes on start and Firefox simply wont start at all. Any ideas?Godwin wrote:I should post an apology.. yes don't use PPA.
This is how I upgrade.
0. Verify that your firefox / thunderbird is installed in /opt directory
1. sudo apt-get remove your firefox / thunderbird (so it is removed from the apt source).
2. Download the latest tar.gz from Mozilla website.
3. Extract the archive to any directory you have access to, and just drag and drop the firefox or thunderbird directory into /opt
4. Since you haven't change the location of either binaries from the default location, all your exisiting short cuts / launchers should work as before.
The built in upgrading for firefox and thunderbird seems to work fairly well. However for Thunderbird updates to work properly you have to use gksu. See http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.p ... 0&t=101067
Re: Firefox and Thunderbird 12
Tech Patterns :: Switching from Debian Iceweasel to Firefox, permanently - http://techpatterns.com/forums/about1435.html
Since I am the only one that uses my laptop all I do is download Firefox/Thunderbird to /home/craig/Downloads, extract, then I copy the Iceweasel/Icedove desktop file that is in /usr/share/applications edit the files to the proper names and the Exec= and Icon= lines , and poof I have Firefox/Thunderbird both of which autoupgrade without messing with su/sudo/gksu.
Makes much more sense to me to deal with Mozilla than to worry about when Debian will update Iceweasel/Icedove or in this case when LMDE will update Firefox/Thunderbird.
They show up on the menu, and I set Firefox as my default browser, and Thunderbird as my mail client.
my firefox.desktop file
Since I am the only one that uses my laptop all I do is download Firefox/Thunderbird to /home/craig/Downloads, extract, then I copy the Iceweasel/Icedove desktop file that is in /usr/share/applications edit the files to the proper names and the Exec= and Icon= lines , and poof I have Firefox/Thunderbird both of which autoupgrade without messing with su/sudo/gksu.
Makes much more sense to me to deal with Mozilla than to worry about when Debian will update Iceweasel/Icedove or in this case when LMDE will update Firefox/Thunderbird.
They show up on the menu, and I set Firefox as my default browser, and Thunderbird as my mail client.
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# update-alternatives --config x-www-browser
There are 7 choices for the alternative x-www-browser (providing /usr/bin/x-www-browser).
Selection Path Priority Status
------------------------------------------------------------
0 /usr/bin/google-chrome 200 auto mode
* 1 /home/craig/Downloads/firefox/firefox 100 manual mode
2 /usr/bin/google-chrome 200 manual mode
3 /usr/bin/iceweasel 70 manual mode
4 /usr/bin/konqueror 100 manual mode
5 /usr/bin/midori 50 manual mode
6 /usr/bin/uzbl-browser 10 manual mode
7 /usr/bin/xlinks2 69 manual mode
my thunderbird.desktop file#!/usr/bin/env xdg-open
[Desktop Entry]
Categories=Network;WebBrowser;
Comment[en_US]=Browse the World Wide Web
Comment=Browse the World Wide Web
Encoding=UTF-8
Exec=/home/craig/Downloads/firefox/firefox '%u'
GenericName[en_US]=Firefox
GenericName=Firefox
Icon=/home/craig/Downloads/firefox/icons/mozicon128.png
MimeType=text/html;image/png;image/jpeg;image/gif;application/xml;application/xml;application/xhtml+xml;application/vnd.mozilla.xul+xml;application/rss+xml;application/rdf+xml;
Name[en_US]=firefox
Name=firefox
Path=
StartupNotify=true
StartupWMClass=Firefox-bin
Terminal=false
TerminalOptions=
Type=Application
X-DBUS-ServiceName=
X-DBUS-StartupType=
X-GNOME-FullName=Firefox
X-KDE-SubstituteUID=false
X-KDE-Username=Firefox
X-MultipleArgs=false
#!/usr/bin/env xdg-open
[Desktop Entry]
Categories=Network;Email;News;GTK;
Comment[en_US]=Read/Write Mail/News with Thunderbird
Comment=Read/Write Mail/News with Thunderbird
Exec=/home/craig/Downloads/thunderbird/thunderbird %u
GenericName[en_US]=Mail Client
GenericName=Mail Client
Icon=/home/craig/Downloads/thunderbird/chrome/icons/default/default32.png
MimeType=message/rfc822;
Name[en_US]=Thunderbird Mail/News
Name=Thunderbird Mail/News
Path=
StartupNotify=true
StartupWMClass=thunderbird
Terminal=false
TerminalOptions=
Type=Application
X-DBUS-ServiceName=
X-DBUS-StartupType=
X-KDE-SubstituteUID=false
X-KDE-Username=
X-MultipleArgs=false
Re: Firefox and Thunderbird 12
Have you thought of starting both at safe mode in CLI? http://kb.mozillazine.org/Safe_mode It should tell you wants wrong.
I seem to recall there is some extensions and search engine settings that might be changed if you do direct download vs apt-get
I seem to recall there is some extensions and search engine settings that might be changed if you do direct download vs apt-get
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Yes, I tried this and it did not work. Luckily this was a new install and I have a seperate /home partition, so a 15 minute re-install did the trick.Godwin wrote:Have you thought of starting both at safe mode in CLI? http://kb.mozillazine.org/Safe_mode It should tell you wants wrong.
I seem to recall there is some extensions and search engine settings that might be changed if you do direct download vs apt-get
I have now upgraded Thunderbird using the 'gksu thunderbird' approach, and this worked fine.
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Aaargh!
Already, installing the debian mozilla recommended package from experimental for iceweasel is broken. I think the difference between LMDE and testing is already too big. xulrunner 12 cannot be installed....
Already, installing the debian mozilla recommended package from experimental for iceweasel is broken. I think the difference between LMDE and testing is already too big. xulrunner 12 cannot be installed....
Re: Firefox and Thunderbird 12
what is the error message, when you do
post the output here
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apt install iceweasel