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by **100filloas** on Sat May 12, 2012 6:18 pm

Somewhat foolishly perhaps for a newbie I'm running LMDE, and on top of that this is my current sources list:

http://packages.linuxmint.com/

http://ftp.debian.org/debian

http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian

http://security.debian.org/

http://www.debian-multimedia.org

http://ppa.launchpad.net/shutter/ppa/ubuntu

A recent update has led to some strange intermittant problems with Epiphany and various other programs that use windows (buttons and scroll bars disappearing etc) and I was thinking the simple cure might be simply another update (136MB of updates are available). The problem is that Update Manager wants to remove 145 packages, including Epiphany, VLC, Audacious, Brasero, Deluge and Unetbootin among others.

Obviously I can avoid removing so many useful packages by simply not installing the updates (which include a new kernel) but it strikes me as very odd that so many packages are to be dumped. Is this normal? I think I'm missing something important here, can anyone fill me in?

Many thanks!

by **zerozero** on Sat May 12, 2012 7:35 pm

1- how are you updating the system? apt? aptitude? upgrade? dist-upgrade/full-upgrade? synaptic? mintupdate?
2- what is the content of /etc/apt/preferences?

by **100filloas** on Sat May 12, 2012 8:09 pm

1. I'm updating with the Update Manager (there's a button on the desktop labelled 'mintUpdate.py').

2. /etc/apt/preferences looks like this:

Package: *
Pin: release o=linuxmint
Pin-Priority: 700

Package: *
Pin: origin packages.linuxmint.com
Pin-Priority: 700

Package: *
Pin: release o=Debian
Pin-Priority: 500

by **zerozero** on Sat May 12, 2012 8:32 pm

just a couple ideas:
1- you are running lmde for some time now? or changed the repos to testing? either way tracking directly testing repos has its :oops:

sometimes, you can here viewtopic.php?f=198&t=67502

2 - suggestion: try to put all the values on the preferences file to 500,close, save and run (in the terminal)

Code: Select all: apt update && apt dist-upgrade

(don't answer "y", post back the output here in the forum >> use the code tags please :wink:

)

by **craigevil** on Sat May 12, 2012 9:44 pm

Comment the Ubuntu repo.

apt-get update
apt-get upgrade
apt-get dist-upgrade

What version of shutter is in the PPA?

$ apt-cache policy shutter
shutter:
Installed: (none)
Candidate: 0.88.1-1
Version table:
0.88.1-1 0
500 http://mirrors.kernel.org/debian/ unstable/main i386 Packages

If you must have the shiniest new version of Shutter, do not use a repo made for Ubuntu. Instead build it from source.
http://shutter-project.org/wp-content/u ... 8.3.tar.gz

by **100filloas** on Sun May 13, 2012 9:23 am

@ zerozero your suggestion of putting all the values on the preference file to 500 seems to have done the trick. Now when I start the update process using

Code: Select all: apt update && dist-upgrade

I get:

Code: Select all: Ign http://www.debian-multimedia.org testing InRelease Ign http://ppa.launchpad.net debian InRelease Get:1 http://security.debian.org testing/updates InRelease [87.8 kB] Hit http://ftp.de.debian.org testing InRelease Hit http://ftp.debian.org testing InRelease Get:2 http://www.debian-multimedia.org testing Release.gpg [198 B] Ign http://ppa.launchpad.net debian Release.gpg Get:3 http://www.debian-multimedia.org testing Release [32.1 kB] Ign http://ppa.launchpad.net debian Release Hit http://ftp.de.debian.org testing/main Sources/DiffIndex Ign http://packages.linuxmint.com debian InRelease Hit http://ftp.debian.org testing/main amd64 Packages/DiffIndex Hit http://ftp.de.debian.org testing/contrib Sources/DiffIndex Hit http://ftp.de.debian.org testing/non-free Sources/DiffIndex Ign http://ppa.launchpad.net debian/main TranslationIndex Get:4 http://www.debian-multimedia.org testing/main amd64 Packages/DiffIndex [2,023 B] Hit http://ftp.debian.org testing/contrib amd64 Packages/DiffIndex Hit http://ftp.debian.org testing/non-free amd64 Packages/DiffIndex Ign http://ftp.debian.org testing/contrib TranslationIndex Hit http://security.debian.org testing/updates/main Sources Hit http://www.debian-multimedia.org testing/non-free amd64 Packages/DiffIndex Ign http://www.debian-multimedia.org testing/main TranslationIndex Ign http://www.debian-multimedia.org testing/non-free TranslationIndex Hit http://ftp.debian.org testing/main TranslationIndex Ign http://ftp.debian.org testing/non-free TranslationIndex Hit http://security.debian.org testing/updates/contrib Sources Hit http://security.debian.org testing/updates/non-free Sources Hit http://security.debian.org testing/updates/main amd64 Packages Hit http://security.debian.org testing/updates/contrib amd64 Packages Hit http://security.debian.org testing/updates/non-free amd64 Packages Ign http://security.debian.org testing/updates/contrib TranslationIndex Ign http://security.debian.org testing/updates/main TranslationIndex Ign http://security.debian.org testing/updates/non-free TranslationIndex Get:5 http://www.debian-multimedia.org testing/main amd64 2012-05-13-1440.29.pdiff [239 B] Get:6 http://www.debian-multimedia.org testing/main amd64 2012-05-13-1440.29.pdiff [239 B] Hit http://ftp.debian.org testing/contrib Translation-en Hit http://ftp.debian.org testing/main Translation-en Hit http://ftp.debian.org testing/non-free Translation-en Err http://ppa.launchpad.net debian/main Sources 404 Not Found Err http://ppa.launchpad.net debian/main amd64 Packages 404 Not Found Ign http://ppa.launchpad.net debian/main Translation-en_GB Ign http://ppa.launchpad.net debian/main Translation-en Ign http://www.debian-multimedia.org testing/main Translation-en_GB Ign http://ftp.debian.org testing/contrib Translation-en_GB Ign http://www.debian-multimedia.org testing/main Translation-en Ign http://www.debian-multimedia.org testing/non-free Translation-en_GB Ign http://www.debian-multimedia.org testing/non-free Translation-en Ign http://security.debian.org testing/updates/contrib Translation-en_GB Ign http://security.debian.org testing/updates/contrib Translation-en Ign http://security.debian.org testing/updates/main Translation-en_GB Ign http://ftp.debian.org testing/non-free Translation-en_GB Ign http://security.debian.org testing/updates/main Translation-en Ign http://security.debian.org testing/updates/non-free Translation-en_GB Ign http://security.debian.org testing/updates/non-free Translation-en Get:7 http://packages.linuxmint.com debian Release.gpg [197 B] Get:8 http://packages.linuxmint.com debian Release [12.2 kB] Get:9 http://packages.linuxmint.com debian/main amd64 Packages [13.9 kB] Get:10 http://packages.linuxmint.com debian/upstream amd64 Packages [8,656 B] Get:11 http://packages.linuxmint.com debian/import amd64 Packages [55.3 kB] Ign http://packages.linuxmint.com debian/import TranslationIndex Ign http://packages.linuxmint.com debian/main TranslationIndex Ign http://packages.linuxmint.com debian/upstream TranslationIndex Ign http://packages.linuxmint.com debian/import Translation-en_GB Ign http://packages.linuxmint.com debian/import Translation-en Ign http://packages.linuxmint.com debian/main Translation-en_GB Ign http://packages.linuxmint.com debian/main Translation-en Ign http://packages.linuxmint.com debian/upstream Translation-en_GB Ign http://packages.linuxmint.com debian/upstream Translation-en Fetched 213 kB in 9s (21.9 kB/s) W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/shutter/ppa/ubuntu/dists/debian/main/source/Sources 404 Not Found W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/shutter/ppa/ubuntu/dists/debian/main/binary-amd64/Packages 404 Not Found E: Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead. Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done Calculating upgrade... Done The following packages will be REMOVED: gnome-netstatus-applet gnome-utils-common libgail-gnome-module libgnomepanel2.24-cil libpanel-applet2-0 python-gnomeapplet The following NEW packages will be installed: libexiv2-12 libgdict-common libx264-124 xbitmaps The following packages will be upgraded: apache2.2-bin banshee baobab cabextract calibre calibre-bin dconf-gsettings-backend dconf-service deb-multimedia-keyring debian-archive-keyring dnsmasq-base eog epiphany-browser epiphany-browser-data exiv2 fontconfig fontconfig-config gecko-mediaplayer gedit gedit-common gir1.2-gtk-3.0 gir1.2-panelapplet-4.0 gir1.2-pango-1.0 gir1.2-telepathylogger-0.2 gir1.2-upowerglib-1.0 gir1.2-vte-2.90 gnome-contacts gnome-desktop3-data gnome-dictionary gnome-mplayer gnome-panel gnome-panel-data gnome-power-manager gnome-system-log gnome-system-monitor gnome-themes-standard gthumb gtk2-engines-aurora gucharmap iso-codes kbd ksh libaacplus2 libaudiofile1 libcairo-gobject2 libcairo2 libcrystalhd3 libdconf0 libfaac0 libfontconfig1 libgail-3-0 libgdict-1.0-6 libglade2.0-cil libglib-perl libglib2.0-0 libglib2.0-bin libglib2.0-cil libglib2.0-data libgmlib0 libgmtk0 libgmtk0-data libgnome-desktop-3-2 libgtk-3-0 libgtk-3-bin libgtk-3-common libgtk2-perl libgtk2.0-cil libgtkmm-3.0-1 libgtkpod1 libgucharmap-2-90-7 libjavascriptcoregtk-1.0-0 libjavascriptcoregtk-3.0-0 libmjpegtools-2.0-0 libmp3lame0 libnautilus-extension1a libncurses5 libncursesw5 libnewt0.52 libnss3-1d libpanel-applet-4-0 libpango1.0-0 libpci3 libpcre3 libpopt0 libpulse-mainloop-glib0 libpulse0 libqt4-dbus libqt4-declarative libqt4-designer libqt4-help libqt4-network libqt4-opengl libqt4-script libqt4-scripttools libqt4-sql libqt4-sql-mysql libqt4-svg libqt4-test libqt4-xml libqt4-xmlpatterns libqtassistantclient4 libqtcore4 libqtgui4 libqtlocation1 libqtmultimediakit1 libsdl-image1.2 libsdl-mixer1.2 libslang2 libsmbclient libsqlite3-0 libtag1-vanilla libtag1c2a libtagc0 libtelepathy-logger2 libtinfo5 libupower-glib1 libvte-2.90-9 libvte-2.90-common libwbclient0 libwebkitgtk-1.0-0 libwebkitgtk-1.0-common libwebkitgtk-3.0-0 libwebkitgtk-3.0-common libwxbase2.8-0 libwxgtk2.8-0 libx11-6 libx11-data libx11-dev libx11-doc libx11-xcb1 libxi6 libxinerama1 libxkbfile1 libxrender1 libxres1 libxss1 libxtst6 libxxf86vm1 linux-headers-3.2.0-2-amd64 linux-headers-3.2.0-2-common linux-image-3.2.0-2-amd64 linux-libc-dev mplayer nautilus nautilus-data ncurses-base ncurses-bin pciutils ppp pulseaudio pulseaudio-esound-compat pulseaudio-module-gconf pulseaudio-module-x11 pulseaudio-module-zeroconf pulseaudio-utils python-qt4 qdbus samba samba-common samba-common-bin tzdata ufraw-batch uget upower whiptail x11-apps x11-utils x11-xfs-utils x11-xkb-utils x11-xserver-utils xauth xchat-common 172 upgraded, 4 newly installed, 6 to remove and 0 not upgraded. Need to get 216 MB of archives. After this operation, 12.3 MB of additional disk space will be used. Do you want to continue [Y/n]?

I've been using LMDE since about the release date, although I switched the repos only relatively recently. On the one hand I know it's not recommended for beginners, on the other if you never make mistakes or encounter problems you don't learn much either thus retain your newbie status indefinitely.

@ craig, that's a very good point thanks. I'm sure there was a reason why I did it that way to begin with but not necessarily one that makes a lot of sense!

by **zerozero** on Sun May 13, 2012 10:59 am

i would say that it's safe to go with that output, see here http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.p ... 80#p578392 (it's similar);
as for ppa's and lmde, craig has a good point.

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