[solved] Are there any updates in between update packs?

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[solved] Are there any updates in between update packs?

Postby pythonscript on Sun Aug 05, 2012 8:27 pm

I have run

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sudo aptitude update;sudo aptitude dist-upgrade


twice daily since I installed LMDE a few weeks ago, and I have received virtually no updates. I read online that LMDE is normally fairly "quiet" in between update packs, but *no* updates whatsoever? Not even security updates? Is this a problem with my system, or does LMDE simply not release updates as frequently as other rolling release distros?
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Re: Are there any updates in between update packs?

Postby nunol on Sun Aug 05, 2012 9:56 pm

UP have (very) few updates. If security updates are important for you don't stay with the UP! Point to stable, testing or even unstable.
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Re: Are there any updates in between update packs?

Postby zerozero on Sun Aug 05, 2012 10:43 pm

the easiest answer, is: yes, almost all the packages >> here can be updated any time regardless of the UP's for all the rest this gives you an idea
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Re: Are there any updates in between update packs?

Postby pythonscript on Sun Aug 05, 2012 11:32 pm

By my reckoning, I'm already pointed at testing. Here is my sources.list:

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deb http://packages.linuxmint.com/ debian main upstream import
deb http://debian.linuxmint.com/latest testing main contrib non-free
deb http://debian.linuxmint.com/latest/security testing/updates main contrib non-free
deb http://debian.linuxmint.com/latest/multimedia testing main non-free


Should I be receiving more frequent updates when I run dist-upgrade? Am I missing something?
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Re: Are there any updates in between update packs?

Postby squeezy on Mon Aug 06, 2012 1:10 am

pythonscript wrote:By my reckoning, I'm already pointed at testing. Here is my sources.list:


Nope, you're pointing at Mint's snapshot of Testing, taken for UP4 around April, I think. As zerozero mentioned, the packages located in the packages.linuxmint.com repo can be updated any time since they are Mint's own packages (mostly). There have been Firefox and Thunderbird updates lately to ver 14.

If you change your sources to the following you can get a sneak preview of UP5 :D

I bolded the relevant changes.

deb http://packages.linuxmint.com/ debian main upstream import incoming
deb http://debian.linuxmint.com/incoming testing main contrib non-free
deb http://debian.linuxmint.com/incoming/security testing/updates main contrib non-free
deb http://debian.linuxmint.com/incoming/multimedia testing main non-free
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Re: Are there any updates in between update packs?

Postby pythonscript on Mon Aug 06, 2012 6:42 am

Excellent. 3 GB of updates is more along the lines of what I was looking for. Coming from Arch, I'm accustomed to many more updates than I was receiving. I take it the incoming packages aren't terribly stable? (I know they're less stable than the testing snapshot, but probably less bleeding-edge than Arch).
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Re: Are there any updates in between update packs?

Postby zerozero on Mon Aug 06, 2012 6:45 am

pythonscript, i still think you should read the FAQ i linked above (i know it's a bit lengthy but :wink: )
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Re: Are there any updates in between update packs?

Postby pythonscript on Mon Aug 06, 2012 7:12 am

I didn't see that, but reading through it, it's a lot of good information. It sounds like the incoming repositories are nowhere close to the bleeding-edge nature of the Arch ones, which has its positives and negatives, of course.
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Re: [solved] Are there any updates in between update packs?

Postby zerozero on Mon Aug 06, 2012 7:15 am

the closest to the arch bleeding-edge in debian is sid (with the ups and downs that living in the edge brings)
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Re: Are there any updates in between update packs?

Postby squeezy on Mon Aug 06, 2012 9:31 am

pythonscript wrote:I didn't see that, but reading through it, it's a lot of good information. It sounds like the incoming repositories are nowhere close to the bleeding-edge nature of the Arch ones, which has its positives and negatives, of course.


Incoming only differs from Latest during the time a new UP is being developed. That's when a new snapshot of the Debian repos is taken and bugs are worked out before it's pushed to Latest for the masses.

Running a stock LMDE installation you will never be bleeding edge, even using the Incoming repos. What you will have is a nice Debian installation that looks and works well, gets major updates 3-4 times a year and minor app updates slightly more often.
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