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Availability of Debian packages in LMDE

Postby msbln on Mon Oct 21, 2013 12:38 pm

An example:

I can remember that I was once able to install the package

totem-plugin-arte

with the LMDE package manager.

Now I'm running LMDE UP7 Testing. I believe that is equivalent to the current Debian Jessie. Is that right?

If so, why does the package manager not show the package as it can be found in

http://packages.debian.org/de/jessie/totem-plugin-arte

I'm confused :?
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Re: Availability of Debian packages in LMDE

Postby Monsta on Mon Oct 21, 2013 1:10 pm

Oh, it's very easy to tell. Look at its PTS page. See the line "[2013-07-08] totem-plugin-arte REMOVED from testing"?

The Update Packs are prepared from the frozen snapshots of Testing (so they're never equivalent to the current Testing). This one was frozen at the time when the package you need has been removed from Testing.
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Re: Availability of Debian packages in LMDE

Postby msbln on Mon Oct 21, 2013 1:25 pm

Ok, I understand it better now.

For a try I copied the incoming-repos into the sources.list
(just for having a peek, they are inactive again)
but there seems to be the same "time lag"
as it is in the Debian Sid packages
http://packages.debian.org/de/sid/totem-plugin-arte
but not in the LMDE incoming repos.

If I wanted to experiment, could I use Debian Jessie repos for installing the package?
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Re: Availability of Debian packages in LMDE

Postby Monsta on Mon Oct 21, 2013 1:30 pm

Switching to Incoming is useless, there won't be anything new until the next UP arrives there for testing.
Yes, you can install that package from Testing, it's available there again.
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Re: Availability of Debian packages in LMDE

Postby msbln on Mon Oct 21, 2013 2:36 pm

Where can I find the current repos for Debian (jessie)?
All I could find is

Package Repository: http://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/jessie/

So temporarily I could paste
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http://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/jessie/

into the sources.list and then the above package should be found by the package manager, right?
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Re: Availability of Debian packages in LMDE

Postby grizzler on Mon Oct 21, 2013 2:50 pm

I'm tracking Testing and my sources.list has:
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deb ftp://ftp.nl.debian.org/debian/ testing main contrib non-free

You can either leave out the nl part or replace it with another country code if you want to use a mirror close to you.
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Re: Availability of Debian packages in LMDE

Postby msbln on Mon Oct 21, 2013 3:21 pm

grizzler wrote:I'm tracking Testing and my sources.list has:
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deb ftp://ftp.nl.debian.org/debian/ testing main contrib non-free

You can either leave out the nl part or replace it with another country code if you want to use a mirror close to you.


That worked. After deactivating temporarily LMDE repos the package
totem-plugin-arte
could be found. Due to many dependencies I decided not to install.
But I understood how to pull in Debian packages.

How can I find out if the desired package is to be found in any of the LMDE repos (latest, incoming, testing, experimental...)?
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Re: Availability of Debian packages in LMDE

Postby grizzler on Mon Oct 21, 2013 3:42 pm

msbln wrote:How can I find out if the desired package is to be found in any of the LMDE repos (latest, incoming, testing, experimental...)?

Good question. I usually start here if I want to know about a package in the Mint repositories, but that page doesn't seem to have an entry for Incoming or Latest (Testing and Experimental are 'pure' Debian, so I would start here).
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Re: Availability of Debian packages in LMDE

Postby msbln on Mon Oct 21, 2013 4:20 pm

Interesting links. Thanks.

What would happen if I pasted all current LMDE and Debian repos in the sources.list and let the package manager search?
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Re: Availability of Debian packages in LMDE

Postby rop75 on Mon Oct 21, 2013 8:00 pm

msbln wrote:Interesting links. Thanks.

What would happen if I pasted all current LMDE and Debian repos in the sources.list and let the package manager search?


If you want to use Debian testing packages "safely"you need to change your sources properly. I advise you to read this thread
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Re: Availability of Debian packages in LMDE

Postby Monsta on Tue Oct 22, 2013 2:47 am

There's also http://http.debian.net/ which selects the best mirror for you automatically.

For example, for Testing you should change
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deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ testing main contrib non-free
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deb http://http.debian.net/debian/ testing main contrib non-free
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