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LMDE Customisation kit?

Postby Fnux on Wed Jun 25, 2014 9:25 am

Hi all,

is there a tool to customize the LMDE DVD install similar to Ubuntu Customization Kit :?:

TIA for your advices :wink:
Last edited by karlchen on Wed Jun 25, 2014 10:01 am, edited 1 time in total.
Reason: Moved the thread from "Main Edition" (Ubuntu based) to "LMDE"
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Re: LMDE Customisation kit?

Postby millpond on Tue Jul 01, 2014 4:18 am

I was hoping there would be an answer, like a meta package for specific purposes, like there is for some sci-apps, etc.

What would you like to do ??

As 'noobies' we can at least claimi ignorance for dumb ideas....
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Re: LMDE Customisation kit?

Postby nascar64 on Fri Jul 04, 2014 6:52 am

well you can try Remastersys get it here http://www.remastersys.com/ i try it it work you can customize ur Os has you like.Ray
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Re: LMDE Customisation kit?

Postby millpond on Sat Jul 05, 2014 8:28 pm

Adding key and repo has no effect here.

Possibly because it has no Jesse option.

My two prime requirements, as i mentioned earlier: A multiboot Window Manager option (I dont know what this screen is called, or even if the latest LMDE has it!) . All i know is that the original LMDE (squeeze) had it, and I've been afraid to install some newer Mint updates in fear of losing it.
The second, is of course reasonable rolling releases. I refuse to reinstall entire systems ever again.

I'm between a rock and a hard place here. I'm basically both Jesse and Mint.
If I choose Jesse I risk a further GDM/KDM bifurcation and breakages.
If I choose Mint I get a snapshot fom Debian in January, which in my case truly sucked rocks as it was buggier than a hornets nest and not really fixed till the june updates.

Another major concern is what constitutes a 'breakage'.
Is it something that renders 2 software packages truly incompatible - such as software depending on differing (and diverging) versions of KDE or glibc.
Or, which might be fixed with a symlink or two....

Or even something that is really an issue with package managers scripts, but that actually installs normally (manually) and is usuable.
I am seeing that with Emacs, and the total mess they made with dependencies (like mmm-mode) - where it looks like its broken, but its not.

The problem with all distributions is that many have or *are* customizations just about all seem to be at least, nearly universal in capability. It depends on the degree of tweaking needed. You can have an entertainment system, but you can load it with CERN software to smash atoms with. You can have a headless web server based system - and turn it into a graphics editing station.

Ideally, none of those 'purposes' should conflict. But if they do, users should be aware of them, and in fairness there has been attempts made atdecent buglists.
But if they *must* conflict, such as with the mess between Debian and LMDE on the gnome-Mate/Cinnamon issues, it should be clear at install time what those issues are. One problem is that the buglists are basically incomprehensible to average users, including myself!

I've been running LMDE/Testing for years, and just learned of some of the major differences, which might have been stated previously, but never in a way as to be understandable until recently.
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Re: LMDE Customisation kit?

Postby Fnux on Sun Jul 06, 2014 6:52 pm

Hi millpond,

millpond wrote:I was hoping there would be an answer, like a meta package for specific purposes, like there is for some sci-apps, etc.

What would you like to do ??

As 'noobies' we can at least claimi ignorance for dumb ideas....

What I'd love to do is to create my own DVD install media of LMDE with several packages pre-installed and other removed exactly as I can do for Ubuntu using UCK.

This allows me to remove apps. that I don't need and add others that I want.

Hi nascar64,

nascar64 wrote:well you can try Remastersys get it here http://www.remastersys.com/ i try it it work you can customize ur Os has you like.Ray

I know Remastersys but it's not what I'm looking for. Remastersys is a very nice and powerfull tool that allows you to customize "your" own OS in order to save it "as is" and reinstall it "as is" including your own settings and apps as well as your user(s) account(s) and password(s) and so on...

As said to millpond, I'm looking for a similar tool of UCK that allows to create an install media that you can use to make a fresh install of LMDE from scratch, but with a selection of packages already installed, and other removed.

As an idea, I don't need any "Suite", e-mail or chat programs pre-installed.

However, I want the languages C++, Gnustep, Lua, Mono, Openjdk-7-jdk, PHP5, Ruby and Scala already installed as well as other stuffs like Eclipse or Code::Blocks.

That's exactly what UCK allows you to do for Ubuntu.

So, is there a similar tool available for LMDE?
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Re: LMDE Customisation kit?

Postby millpond on Mon Jul 07, 2014 2:06 am

What you are trying to do is a process typically referred to as 'slipstreaming.

http://askubuntu.com/questions/102671/m ... ntu-livecd
Basically it is adding packages to an install CD\DVD iso file, and this can be done with any good archiving manager.
The packages would need to be installed afterwards.


For a more customized live install:
http://www.linux-live.org/
https://github.com/Tomas-M/linux-live
You would need to slim down a copy of your system in a new directory/mount point.
It would need to be able to fit on a DVD or USB stick.

For a large installation, it may be possible to turn it into an ISO image on the hard drive :
http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions ... sk-294744/
I dont know if this would work on a large USB drive. Cloning might be a better option there.
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Re: LMDE Customisation kit?

Postby Fnux on Wed Jul 09, 2014 10:57 pm

Hi millpond,

Thanx for the different links.

millpond wrote:What you are trying to do is a process typically referred to as 'slipstreaming.

http://askubuntu.com/questions/102671/m ... ntu-livecd
Basically it is adding packages to an install CD\DVD iso file, and this can be done with any good archiving manager.
The packages would need to be installed afterwards.

I'll try the "Customiser" tool proposed by William if it can work with LMDE.

However, if this works, I hope that the new added packages won't have to be installed later.

If this is not the case, then this tool will not be appropriate for what I hope to do and that is exactly what is possible with UCK.

Now, maybe should I dig into the source of UCK and try to adapt it to LMDE. :roll:

millpond wrote:For a more customized live install:
http://www.linux-live.org/
https://github.com/Tomas-M/linux-live
You would need to slim down a copy of your system in a new directory/mount point.
It would need to be able to fit on a DVD or USB stick.

For a large installation, it may be possible to turn it into an ISO image on the hard drive :
http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions ... sk-294744/
I dont know if this would work on a large USB drive. Cloning might be a better option there.

Obviously, these two other solutions don't respond to what I expect to perform and look more like remastersys (i.e. customizing an already installed system that isn't my goal).

Thanks again.
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