recent update about boot dependencies???

All Gurus once were Newbies
Forum rules
There are no such things as "stupid" questions. However if you think your question is a bit stupid, then this is the right place for you to post it. Please stick to easy to-the-point questions that you feel people can answer fast. For long and complicated questions prefer the other forums within the support section.
Before you post please read this

recent update about boot dependencies???

Postby houndhen on Sat Jan 15, 2011 10:23 pm

Not sure what it was about but it gave me a choice whether to except it or not. Said it was recommended and that I could do it later by entering a command from the console. It said something about more efficient or faster booting. I was unsure of what it was about so I unchecked the check box. I thought it might mess with grub and didn't want that. I know this is vague but does anyone know what this was about and what it was supposed to make better?
Thanks,
Harold
houndhen
Level 2
Level 2
 
Posts: 65
Joined: Sat Dec 08, 2007 9:58 pm
Location: Alabama

Linux Mint is funded by ads and donations.
 

Re: recent update about boot dependencies???

Postby viking777 on Sun Jan 16, 2011 6:54 am

The last update I got that might affect grub was grub itself. (grub-common and grub-pc). That was yesterday (15th).

1.98+20100804-13 is the version I have now.

I can't notice any difference in the boot process because of that though.
Fujitsu Lifebook AH532. Intel i5 processor, 6Gb ram, Intel HD3000 graphics, Intel Audio/wifi. Realtek RTL8111/8168B Ethernet.Lubuntu 13.10,Ubuntu12.10 (Unity), Mint16 (Cinnamon), Manjaro (Xfce).
Image
User avatar
viking777
Level 14
Level 14
 
Posts: 5153
Joined: Mon Dec 01, 2008 11:21 am

Re: recent update about boot dependencies???

Postby rivenathos on Sun Jan 16, 2011 8:54 am

I remember seeing that boot option. I left mine checked for the new stuff and accepted it. Nothing has exploded or caught fire on my desk yet. I had already forgotten about it, actually. ;-)
Debian 7 with GNOME 64-bit
User avatar
rivenathos
Level 6
Level 6
 
Posts: 1066
Joined: Wed May 06, 2009 7:32 am
Location: USA

Re: recent update about boot dependencies???

Postby mph on Sun Jan 16, 2011 10:25 am

I didn't uncheck those check boxes during the installation. After booting the system, my dual boot Ubuntu wasn't found anymore. I tried to reconfigure the GRUB with the command 'sudo update-grub' but it finds only the LMDE. I'm not very familiar with the GRUB, can somebody help me how to reconfigure it (if needed, I can provide more data about my partitioning etc.).
mph
Level 1
Level 1
 
Posts: 6
Joined: Mon Jun 22, 2009 10:52 am

Re: recent update about boot dependencies???

Postby houndhen on Sun Jan 16, 2011 10:35 am

mph wrote:I didn't uncheck those check boxes during the installation. After booting the system, my dual boot Ubuntu wasn't found anymore. I tried to reconfigure the GRUB with the command 'sudo update-grub' but it finds only the LMDE. I'm not very familiar with the GRUB, can somebody help me how to reconfigure it (if needed, I can provide more data about my partitioning etc.).
This is what I was afraid of because I still run grub legacy as my boot manager. I just chainload the distros that insist on using grub2. I may have to use grub2 at some point in the future but I prefer the simplicity of grub legacy.

To answer you question about reconfiguring grub; I am not the one to give an answer. I don't understand all the ins and outs of installing, using, reconfiguring either grub. I just know enough to get me in trouble. But it looks like I may have made the right choice with this update.
Thanks,
Harold
houndhen
Level 2
Level 2
 
Posts: 65
Joined: Sat Dec 08, 2007 9:58 pm
Location: Alabama

Re: recent update about boot dependencies???

Postby viking777 on Sun Jan 16, 2011 10:42 am

houndhen wrote:This is what I was afraid of because I still run grub legacy as my boot manager. I just chainload the distros that insist on using grub2. I may have to use grub2 at some point in the future but I prefer the simplicity of grub legacy.


I work exactly the same as you do (ie multiboot with grub legacy chainloading several grub2 distros). My system has been fine and I have installed all available LMDE updates.
Fujitsu Lifebook AH532. Intel i5 processor, 6Gb ram, Intel HD3000 graphics, Intel Audio/wifi. Realtek RTL8111/8168B Ethernet.Lubuntu 13.10,Ubuntu12.10 (Unity), Mint16 (Cinnamon), Manjaro (Xfce).
Image
User avatar
viking777
Level 14
Level 14
 
Posts: 5153
Joined: Mon Dec 01, 2008 11:21 am

Re: recent update about boot dependencies???

Postby houndhen on Sun Jan 16, 2011 11:25 am

It didn't seem to me that there was enough information in the help section for me to be sure of the outcome for my system. I realize that a lot of people just go with grub2 but I think simpler is better. That's just me. Linux is about choice and I am not a computer guru but sometimes I have learned enough to know that some choices (changes) might not be good for me.
Thanks,
Harold
houndhen
Level 2
Level 2
 
Posts: 65
Joined: Sat Dec 08, 2007 9:58 pm
Location: Alabama

Re: recent update about boot dependencies???

Postby viking777 on Sun Jan 16, 2011 1:18 pm

houndhen wrote:It didn't seem to me that there was enough information in the help section for me to be sure of the outcome for my system. I realize that a lot of people just go with grub2 but I think simpler is better. That's just me. Linux is about choice and I am not a computer guru but sometimes I have learned enough to know that some choices (changes) might not be good for me.


I only made the previous post for information purposes, I am not trying to convince you of anything. If you are canny enough to know that using grub legacy is preferable to using grub2, you should be confident in your other choices as well. :)
Fujitsu Lifebook AH532. Intel i5 processor, 6Gb ram, Intel HD3000 graphics, Intel Audio/wifi. Realtek RTL8111/8168B Ethernet.Lubuntu 13.10,Ubuntu12.10 (Unity), Mint16 (Cinnamon), Manjaro (Xfce).
Image
User avatar
viking777
Level 14
Level 14
 
Posts: 5153
Joined: Mon Dec 01, 2008 11:21 am

Re: recent update about boot dependencies???

Postby mph on Sun Jan 16, 2011 3:40 pm

I managed to solve my booting problem. I ran the command 'sudo update-grub' several times, and I also mounted my Ubuntu partition.

I'm not sure which one was the actual solution: maybe running 'sudo update-grub' only once is enough if the partition including the another Linux system (to be dual booted) is mounted?
mph
Level 1
Level 1
 
Posts: 6
Joined: Mon Jun 22, 2009 10:52 am

Re: recent update about boot dependencies???

Postby awong on Sun Jan 16, 2011 7:43 pm

The culprit is:
sysv-rc and three other packages

"This package provides support for the System-V like system for booting, changing runlevels, and shutting down, configured through symbolic links in /etc/rc?.d/."

I haven't heard any reviews of this at all, but I haven't actively been searching for it. I unchecked the box as well.
awong
Level 2
Level 2
 
Posts: 62
Joined: Sat Jun 02, 2007 3:06 pm

Re: recent update about boot dependencies???

Postby viking777 on Mon Jan 17, 2011 5:43 am

awong wrote:The culprit is:
sysv-rc and three other packages

"This package provides support for the System-V like system for booting, changing runlevels, and shutting down, configured through symbolic links in /etc/rc?.d/."

I haven't heard any reviews of this at all, but I haven't actively been searching for it. I unchecked the box as well.


Oh OK Thanks for that.

I have that update as well, it makes no discernible difference to either the boot process or the stability of the system, so if you haven't updated it then don't fret - you aren't missing much. On the other hand if you do decide to update you are unlikely to burst into flames at the first reboot :lol:
Fujitsu Lifebook AH532. Intel i5 processor, 6Gb ram, Intel HD3000 graphics, Intel Audio/wifi. Realtek RTL8111/8168B Ethernet.Lubuntu 13.10,Ubuntu12.10 (Unity), Mint16 (Cinnamon), Manjaro (Xfce).
Image
User avatar
viking777
Level 14
Level 14
 
Posts: 5153
Joined: Mon Dec 01, 2008 11:21 am

Linux Mint is funded by ads and donations.
 

Return to Newbie Questions

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 2 guests