I've been using and loving Linux Mint for a while now, and I thought it might be good for me to cut the Ubuntu apron-strings and have a look at LMDE. I installed it, and all went well for a few hours. Then I tried to install K9copy, and found myself in the kind of dependency-hell that I thought was a thing of the past. In a short time, not only did I fail to get it working, but I managed to break all sorts of other stuff too (I'm quite talented at doing that!)
I know that in a rolling distro, inevitably there'll be times when one thing isn't compatible with another, and things will break from time to time. I'm fine with that. But I'm just wondering how often it happens. Should I regard LMDE as a 'how to learn about Linux' experience, and only put it on a non-essential machine, while running LM on the mission-critical PCs?
Did I just happen to jump in at a bad moment, or are dependency issues pretty much a constant with LMDE?
(Please don't take any of this as even a slight criticism of LMDE - I'm just wondering if I lack the Linux know-how to use it without hurting myself!!!)
Am I too dumb for LMDE?
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Am I too dumb for LMDE?
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Re: Am I too dumb for LMDE?
I'm having similar problems trying to get Wine running under LMDE. I think LMDE is great Idea but it's not at least for me ready for everyday use.
So I would say we are both in the same fix. Perhaps for different reasons. I'll continue to check LMDE but will have to use LM 11 for now on my mission critical systems.
Can't believe they would take something out of Debian that had been working great over many release cycles. OH well I'll wait and see what happens next.
Not that Wine can't be installed but I don't have the time to chase down and install all the dependencies that are needed.
Keep good courage and don't give up
So I would say we are both in the same fix. Perhaps for different reasons. I'll continue to check LMDE but will have to use LM 11 for now on my mission critical systems.
Can't believe they would take something out of Debian that had been working great over many release cycles. OH well I'll wait and see what happens next.
Not that Wine can't be installed but I don't have the time to chase down and install all the dependencies that are needed.
Keep good courage and don't give up
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Re: Am I too dumb for LMDE?
I'll answer that question this way. The following is from the download page for LMDE:
* Those who have the experience and knowledge required to handle this type of thing.
* Those who want to eventually have the knowledge and experience to handle this sort of thing.
On the other side of the argument is the standard non-Debian based Linux Mint. In my mind there are two types of users that would be interested in this type of distribution:
* Those who do not have the experience and knowledge required to handle the LMDE offering.
* Those who have been at this a while and have gotten to the point where they see Linux and it's desktop environment as just that. An operating system - a platform to get something done other than the care and feeding of the OS itself.
In my mind there are two types of users that would be interested in this type of distribution:LMDE continuously changes as it receives updates and new software. Compared to a frozen version of Linux Mint which changes very little once it's publicly released, it's not as stable. Things are likely to break more often but fixes can also come quicker. For this reason, LMDE requires a deeper knowledge and experience with Linux, dpkg and APT.
* Those who have the experience and knowledge required to handle this type of thing.
* Those who want to eventually have the knowledge and experience to handle this sort of thing.
On the other side of the argument is the standard non-Debian based Linux Mint. In my mind there are two types of users that would be interested in this type of distribution:
* Those who do not have the experience and knowledge required to handle the LMDE offering.
* Those who have been at this a while and have gotten to the point where they see Linux and it's desktop environment as just that. An operating system - a platform to get something done other than the care and feeding of the OS itself.
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Re: Am I too dumb for LMDE?
well said , think I'm currently in the those who have been at this awhile and have to get the work done now. Like LMDE but don't have the spare time for it now.altair4 wrote:I'll answer that question this way. The following is from the download page for LMDE:In my mind there are two types of users that would be interested in this type of distribution:LMDE continuously changes as it receives updates and new software. Compared to a frozen version of Linux Mint which changes very little once it's publicly released, it's not as stable. Things are likely to break more often but fixes can also come quicker. For this reason, LMDE requires a deeper knowledge and experience with Linux, dpkg and APT.
* Those who have the experience and knowledge required to handle this type of thing.
* Those who want to eventually have the knowledge and experience to handle this sort of thing.
On the other side of the argument is the standard non-Debian based Linux Mint. In my mind there are two types of users that would be interested in this type of distribution:
* Those who do not have the experience and knowledge required to handle the LMDE offering.
* Those who have been at this a while and have gotten to the point where they see Linux and it's desktop environment as just that. An operating system - a platform to get something done other than the care and feeding of the OS itself.
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Re: Am I too dumb for LMDE?
Was going to quote stuff from the lmde download page too. But altair beat me to it ... day late n a dollar short. Story of ma friggin life ! Arghhhh. D:
Guessing if you don't meet the criteria LM HQ stipulates on the download page. Then someone is better off knowing their limits. People with the experience and know how seem to speak highly of LM's Debian stuff. Otherwise, guess people are setting themselves up for a bad experience. Software is supposed to make your life easier, not make ya pull your hair out.
Though, jmo ... sounds like you're onto something too and other peeps mentioned it. Guess it could be a good learning experience and kept on its own partition not cause someone wanting to test drive it too much grief. Esp if someone learns how to make incremental backups and restore them when updatitus or rampant borkage sets in and they want a new start. Backups seem like a good idea with whatever OS someone is using. Then some other common sense tricks to avoid borkage hell also occur to me. Getting things where ya want and freezing em, repos to stable or whichever and/or doing a bit of looking around before applying updates. I mean if you check up on the lmde breakage thread and 20 people are saying this latest round really messed me up !
Then might want to be more cautious in applying those updates until a solution is produced ?
This is all just random babbling, as I've actually never tried lmde/etc yet myself. Keep planning on it ... but really can't think of what advantages it might offer me over what I have now, shrugs. Though am sure there are some, newer this n that ... Just don't feel like risking having to deal with borkage. Even if I think I'm to the point where I could do ok with it. To end this book ... nope ya not too stupid to do it. The fact that you're experimenting with gnu/Linux tells us that much. May just want to reassess your approach or whatnot.
Guessing if you don't meet the criteria LM HQ stipulates on the download page. Then someone is better off knowing their limits. People with the experience and know how seem to speak highly of LM's Debian stuff. Otherwise, guess people are setting themselves up for a bad experience. Software is supposed to make your life easier, not make ya pull your hair out.
Though, jmo ... sounds like you're onto something too and other peeps mentioned it. Guess it could be a good learning experience and kept on its own partition not cause someone wanting to test drive it too much grief. Esp if someone learns how to make incremental backups and restore them when updatitus or rampant borkage sets in and they want a new start. Backups seem like a good idea with whatever OS someone is using. Then some other common sense tricks to avoid borkage hell also occur to me. Getting things where ya want and freezing em, repos to stable or whichever and/or doing a bit of looking around before applying updates. I mean if you check up on the lmde breakage thread and 20 people are saying this latest round really messed me up !
Then might want to be more cautious in applying those updates until a solution is produced ?
This is all just random babbling, as I've actually never tried lmde/etc yet myself. Keep planning on it ... but really can't think of what advantages it might offer me over what I have now, shrugs. Though am sure there are some, newer this n that ... Just don't feel like risking having to deal with borkage. Even if I think I'm to the point where I could do ok with it. To end this book ... nope ya not too stupid to do it. The fact that you're experimenting with gnu/Linux tells us that much. May just want to reassess your approach or whatnot.
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wyrdoak
Re: Am I too dumb for LMDE?
I've been using LMDE for a few months now. I haven't had too may problems with my system, Messed up good once so far and Clonezilla was my friend. In 20min it was over.
I've had my bifocals for twice as long and still haven't figured out how to use them with the computer.
I've had my bifocals for twice as long and still haven't figured out how to use them with the computer.
Re: Am I too dumb for LMDE?
That's sorta the feeling here, too. Curious about it, just haven't gotten around to it yet. Starting to wonder if straight Debian Testing wouldn't be less trouble, in the end; but, again, haven't installed LMDE yet, so I don't know.lmintnewb wrote:I've actually never tried lmde/etc yet myself. Keep planning on it ... but really can't think of what advantages it might offer me over what I have now
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zerozero
Re: Am I too dumb for LMDE?
LMDE is like a living being, with changes every day (what is true today, some update will make false tomorrow) and this unique feature is the charm (and the problem).
now on topic, regarding k9copy, with the testing repos it installs just fine
(this is a dry-run)
so, i would say that the issue is:
1- the UP
2- are your repos in sync with the last recommendations (multimedia and security mirrored by Mint)
3- was the system fully dist-upgraded before you tried install k9copy?
now on topic, regarding k9copy, with the testing repos it installs just fine
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Conf phonon (4:4.6.0really4.5.0-5 Debian:testing [all])
Conf kdebase-runtime-data (4:4.6.5-1 Debian:testing [all])
Conf libkatepartinterfaces4 (4:4.6.5-2+b1 Debian:testing [amd64])
Conf libqt4-designer (4:4.7.3-5 Debian:testing [amd64])
Conf libqt4-qt3support (4:4.7.3-5 Debian:testing [amd64])
Conf libkde3support4 (4:4.6.5-2+b1 Debian:testing [amd64])
Conf libkjsembed4 (4:4.6.5-2+b1 Debian:testing [amd64])
Conf libkntlm4 (4:4.6.5-2+b1 Debian:testing [amd64])
Conf libkrosscore4 (4:4.6.5-2+b1 Debian:testing [amd64])
Conf libpolkit-qt-1-1 (0.99.0-3 Debian:testing [amd64])
Conf kdelibs5-data (4:4.6.5-2 Debian:testing [all])
Conf kdoctools (4:4.6.5-2+b1 Debian:testing [amd64])
Conf kdelibs-bin (4:4.6.5-2+b1 Debian:testing [amd64])
Conf kdelibs5-plugins (4:4.6.5-2+b1 Debian:testing [amd64])
Conf oxygen-icon-theme (4:4.6.2-2 Debian:testing [all])
Conf shared-desktop-ontologies (0.6.0-1 Debian:testing [all])
Conf plasma-scriptengine-javascript (4:4.6.5-1+b1 Debian:testing [amd64])
Conf kdebase-runtime (4:4.6.5-1+b1 Debian:testing [amd64])
Conf libxine1-bin (1:1.1.19-3.3 Unofficial Multimedia Packages:None/testing [amd64])
Conf libxine1-ffmpeg (1:1.1.19-3.3 Unofficial Multimedia Packages:None/testing [amd64])
Conf libgraphicsmagick3 (1.3.12-1.1 Debian:testing [amd64])
Conf libdnet (2.57 Debian:testing [amd64])
Conf libroar1 (0.4~rc0-1 Debian:testing [amd64])
Conf libroar-compat1 (0.4~rc0-1 Debian:testing [amd64])
Conf libxine1-misc-plugins (1:1.1.19-3.3 Unofficial Multimedia Packages:None/testing [amd64])
Conf libxine1-plugins (1:1.1.19-3.3 Unofficial Multimedia Packages:None/testing [all])
Conf libxine1-x (1:1.1.19-3.3 Unofficial Multimedia Packages:None/testing [amd64])
Conf libxine1-console (1:1.1.19-3.3 Unofficial Multimedia Packages:None/testing [amd64])
Conf libxine1 (1:1.1.19-3.3 Unofficial Multimedia Packages:None/testing [amd64])
Conf mencoder (3:1.0~rc4+svn20110926-0.1 Unofficial Multimedia Packages:None/testing [amd64])
Conf k9copy (2.3.7-3+b1 Debian:testing [amd64])
Conf virtuoso-opensource-6.1-common (6.1.3+dfsg1-2 Debian:testing [amd64])
Conf libvirtodbc0 (6.1.3+dfsg1-2 Debian:testing [amd64])
Conf virtuoso-opensource-6.1-bin (6.1.3+dfsg1-2 Debian:testing [amd64])
Conf virtuoso-minimal (6.1.3+dfsg1-2 Debian:testing [all])
Conf dnet-common (2.57 Debian:testing [all])
Conf docbook-xsl-doc-html (1.75.2-1 Debian:testing [all])so, i would say that the issue is:
1- the UP
2- are your repos in sync with the last recommendations (multimedia and security mirrored by Mint)
3- was the system fully dist-upgraded before you tried install k9copy?
Re: Am I too dumb for LMDE?
The title of this topic is "Am I too dumb for LMDE". I think my response and the response of others is very much on topic.zerozero wrote:now on topic .....
The only actual question posed by the OP was:
And on that question I could have just posted:Should I regard LMDE as a 'how to learn about Linux' experience, and only put it on a non-essential machine, while running LM on the mission-critical PCs?
Yes
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zerozero
Re: Am I too dumb for LMDE?
well, i'm sorry you misread that "now on topic", it was more for my post than for anyone else's
and the OP has 2 questions there, one more general (to which i'm not going to answer - i'm not going to tell Whitefort if s/he has the skills to run LMDE) and another one specific (k9copy) and to that one, yes, i can give some assistance.
and the OP has 2 questions there, one more general (to which i'm not going to answer - i'm not going to tell Whitefort if s/he has the skills to run LMDE) and another one specific (k9copy) and to that one, yes, i can give some assistance.
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DrHu
Re: Am I too dumb for LMDE?
Rolling releases sometimes break badly, because they tend to be experimental, read that as most up-to-date..
However a fix usually appears fairly quickly, so if you are worried about it, you might keep a small partition for experiments (lmde and lmde1 or similar) and test the application(s) or system updates you intend to install
This idea is similar to how a server might be used; as a testing stage before internal release to users
--in your case you would be the test user and the normal user (after testing is finished..)
If you don't do it that way, you do have to pay more attention to update or application issues, read any messages, change-logs that kind of thing
--that said I have generally found most rolling releases (straight up Debian) were OK, except one time, and my system did also bork (system update..)
However a fix usually appears fairly quickly, so if you are worried about it, you might keep a small partition for experiments (lmde and lmde1 or similar) and test the application(s) or system updates you intend to install
This idea is similar to how a server might be used; as a testing stage before internal release to users
--in your case you would be the test user and the normal user (after testing is finished..)
If you don't do it that way, you do have to pay more attention to update or application issues, read any messages, change-logs that kind of thing
--that said I have generally found most rolling releases (straight up Debian) were OK, except one time, and my system did also bork (system update..)
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samriggs
Re: Am I too dumb for LMDE?
I had similar issues with wine so I went HEREkc1di wrote:I'm having similar problems trying to get Wine running under LMDE. I think LMDE is great Idea but it's not at least for me ready for everyday use.
Download the debs that are for your system (32 or 64) under binary packages, save them all in a folder and start installing them one by one (just right click on them and install) if they say they need one other package for dependency first then install that one first, they are all there but they have to be done in a certain order or they will cry foul and tell you which one to do before that one can be installed.
If I remember right I think wine-bin-unstable has to be first.
Nothing other that needs to be done to have wine working, there are 16 binary deb files to install in total.
Then you can go to wineHQ and download the latest winetricks and make it executable and install that also if you want winetricks.
I did this on 3 systems running LMDE and all worked fine.
It's been a while since I had install wine so unless something else changed this should work.
Hope this helps.
Sam
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dritzominous
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Re: Am I too dumb for LMDE?
Meh, just change your sources to debian sid, and install wine.
After you're done, change them back to LMDE.
I did it, no problems.
After you're done, change them back to LMDE.
I did it, no problems.
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samriggs
Re: Am I too dumb for LMDE?
Been a long time since I checked, that's cool.
Is it an updated version?
I know debian used to have an extremely outdated version at one time until they put them in deb files to download, which is why I did it the way I did it.
Hopefully it's all updated now
Is it an updated version?
I know debian used to have an extremely outdated version at one time until they put them in deb files to download, which is why I did it the way I did it.
Hopefully it's all updated now
Re: Am I too dumb for LMDE?
Thanks for the replies, guys.
In retrospect, my OP was kinda dumb in itself! However the comments here have really helped me to think things through. I'm going to put LMDE on a non-essential machine and keep using it as much as possible (with lots of backing up of data!), just turning to my other machines when I break LMDE or find that some dependency thing prevents me from installing a program I want or need.
It seems a bit silly to assess the distro after such a short time, so I'm going to stick with it for a few months and see how it goes. My only previous 'rolling distro' experience was with Arch - and that broke things spectacularly from time to time. But I learned a lot as a result.
Maybe the best way to learn to use LMDE is by using LMDE, so that's what I'm going to try.
Thanks again!
In retrospect, my OP was kinda dumb in itself! However the comments here have really helped me to think things through. I'm going to put LMDE on a non-essential machine and keep using it as much as possible (with lots of backing up of data!), just turning to my other machines when I break LMDE or find that some dependency thing prevents me from installing a program I want or need.
It seems a bit silly to assess the distro after such a short time, so I'm going to stick with it for a few months and see how it goes. My only previous 'rolling distro' experience was with Arch - and that broke things spectacularly from time to time. But I learned a lot as a result.
Maybe the best way to learn to use LMDE is by using LMDE, so that's what I'm going to try.
Thanks again!
Re: Am I too dumb for LMDE?
Sounds like a good plan, let us know how it goes from time to time things that might help others also.Whitefort wrote:Thanks for the replies, guys.
In retrospect, my OP was kinda dumb in itself! However the comments here have really helped me to think things through. I'm going to put LMDE on a non-essential machine and keep using it as much as possible (with lots of backing up of data!), just turning to my other machines when I break LMDE or find that some dependency thing prevents me from installing a program I want or need.
It seems a bit silly to assess the distro after such a short time, so I'm going to stick with it for a few months and see how it goes. My only previous 'rolling distro' experience was with Arch - and that broke things spectacularly from time to time. But I learned a lot as a result.
Maybe the best way to learn to use LMDE is by using LMDE, so that's what I'm going to try.
Thanks again!
Cheers,
dave
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