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Re: Mint Debian

Postby Orographic on Sun Sep 19, 2010 6:27 pm

secipolla wrote:
Orographic wrote:
randomizer wrote:Kernel 2.6.33 was the first to have full support for the i3, including the IGP. 2.6.32 may have some support for the CPU but I think IGP support is flaky at best.


So, would the 2.6.33 kernel be around any time soon on LMDE? I am happy to wait. :)

You can easily install 2.6.35 from experimental or from the Liquorix repository.
For the Debian kernel from experimental, just add a line to your /etc/apt/sources list exactly like the one you have for "testing" but with "experimental" in its place.
Then open Synaptic, reload the package information and install the 2.6.35 kernel. There's no problem since your current kernel won't be removed. Also you can leave the experimental repo enabled since packages from there can only be installed if you explicitly request.

If you prefer to install a Liquorix kernel, which is tweaked for desktop use rather than for server use, add to /etc/apt/sources.list
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deb http://liquorix.net/debian sid main

Then open Synaptic, reload the package information and install liquorix-keyring and the 2.6.35 kernel.



Hi there,

I'm a newbie to LMDE and Mint in general. Could you run exactly through the process of doing this via the Liquorix kernel way? I've made an image of LMDE via Clonezilla so I can easily restore the original install if something goes awry.

1/ What is the best way to add to my sources list in LMDE? How do I open this file at terminal in LMDE?

2/ So, then I open Synaptic and reload?

3/ Then install liquorix-keyring at terminal via that link you gave?

4/ Will the newer kernel just be in Synaptic now for me to download?

5/ Will I see the options to choose between the original kernel and the new one on boot?

Thanks! :)
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Re: Mint Debian

Postby tdockery97 on Sun Sep 19, 2010 6:47 pm

1. sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list

Switch steps 2 & 3

2. - 5. Yes
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Re: Mint Debian

Postby richyrich on Sun Sep 19, 2010 6:53 pm

@Orographic
1) if you don't like the terminal . . Menu -> Control Center -> Software Sources . . click the Third Party tab, see below . . :)
2) do number 3, then number 2 . . :?
4) yes.
5) yes.
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Re: Mint Debian

Postby Orographic on Sun Sep 19, 2010 7:03 pm

Ripper guys, thanks for your help.

Okay, I've got synaptic open now and have just entered 2.6.35 kernel in the quick search box.

Do I just select these two?

[] linux-headers-2.6.35-4.dmz.2-liquirox-686
[] linux-image-2.6.35.dmz2-liquirox-686
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Re: Mint Debian

Postby richyrich on Sun Sep 19, 2010 7:05 pm

I installed all 4 . . ?
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Re: Mint Debian

Postby Orographic on Sun Sep 19, 2010 7:12 pm

When I type '2.6.35 kernel' into synaptic I just get those two selections:

] linux-headers-2.6.35-4.dmz.2-liquirox-686
[] linux-image-2.6.35.dmz2-liquirox-686
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Re: Mint Debian

Postby richyrich on Sun Sep 19, 2010 7:14 pm

I use the Origin button , then choose liquorix in the upper left.
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Re: Mint Debian

Postby Orographic on Sun Sep 19, 2010 8:07 pm

Thanks guys, all seems well now with the newer kernel.

Does this effect standard updates or anything else in LMDE?

I can always resort to an earlier clonezilla image anyway.
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Re: Mint Debian

Postby secipolla on Sun Sep 19, 2010 10:37 pm

It doesn't affect anything else regarding the packages, except for kernel related ones, like the linux-headers. You need the linux-headers package if you need to build kernel modules like to install NVIDIA's proprietary video driver or VirtualBox kernel modules etc.

P.S. if later on you find out that a newer kernel has some betterment regarding your hardware, go and check Synaptic since from time to time the Liquorix kernel maintainer launches a new version. Then you can install it the same way and as usual the current kernels are kept. You can also remove an unused kernel through Synaptic or apt-get/aptitude.
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Re: Mint Debian

Postby Orographic on Mon Sep 20, 2010 12:09 am

Thanks secipolla. Just out of interest, are you able to add this newer Liquorix kernel in Mint Standard just as easily? Or is that not possible because that version is based on Ubuntu?

My newish core i3 CPU and onboard HD graphics seem to like this newer Liquorix kernel more than the default one.
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Re: Mint Debian

Postby vrkalak on Mon Sep 20, 2010 1:06 am

Orographic wrote:Thanks secipolla. Just out of interest, are you able to add this newer Liquorix kernel in Mint Standard just as easily? Or is that not possible because that version is based on Ubuntu?

My newish core i3 CPU and onboard HD graphics seem to like this newer Liquorix kernel more than the default one.


Correct, you cannot install an Ubuntu kernel in Debian. While Ubuntu is loosely based on Debian ... they are not compatible nor inter-changeable.

You can download the new 2.6.35 kernel for Ubuntu here >> http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/

And for Linux Mint Debian you can either use the generic Linux Kernel or the compiled for Debian Sid kernel: Liquorix

Liquorix kernel >> http://liquorix.net/

Basic Linux Kernel >> http://www.kernel.org/

Very helpful site for using/upgrading kernels >> http://kernelnewbies.org/

Please, note that when you are installing/upgrading a kernel ... there are 3 parts to it, and they MUST be installed in this order.

Download and then install the following IN THIS ORDER:

First, get the linux-headers file that ends with "all.deb".
Second, get the linux-headers file that ends with "i386.deb" or "amd64.deb" depending upon what architecture you need.
Finally, get the linux-image file that ends with "i386.deb" or "amd64.deb" again depending upon what architecture you need.

Honestly it doesn't really matter what order you download them in ... but, you need to make absolutely sure that you install them in this order.
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Re: Mint Debian

Postby Orographic on Mon Sep 20, 2010 1:48 am

Thanks for your helpful post. The way I did it earlier today (Australian time) was to head to that liquirox link and I added the suggested link to my sources list and then installed the liquirox keyring. All went well, i think.

When I opened Synaptic and entered 2.6.35 kernel in the quick search box, I got this below:


[] linux-headers-2.6.35-4.dmz.2-liquirox-686
[] linux-image-2.6.35.dmz2-liquirox-686

I selected both of these and installed them and they were then added to my kernel options on boot.

Is this correct?

If not, it is easy for me to restore a clonezilla image i made of LMDe earlier today and try again.
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Re: Mint Debian

Postby tdockery97 on Mon Sep 20, 2010 3:38 am

Yes. In Grub you should now be able to boot into your new kernel or your old one. If it boots and works then the kernel is installed correctly. :D
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Re: Mint Debian

Postby Orographic on Mon Sep 20, 2010 4:32 am

tdockery97 wrote:Yes. In Grub you should now be able to boot into your new kernel or your old one. If it boots and works then the kernel is installed correctly. :D


Thanks! Doing it the liquirox way was quite easy, just add the line to your sources list, install the key and then open synaptic, refresh and bobs your uncle...or aunty. Ripper.

Does anyone know how to make fullscreen Flash any better? Its quite good but there is a bit of tearing.

I'm loving LMDE though, there is something earthy about using Debian but its more enjoyable with the finer touches of Mint.
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Re: Mint Debian

Postby ibm450 on Mon Sep 20, 2010 4:48 am

just updated to the 2.6.36 and the nvidia crapped it self...reinstalled lm9


what the fark dd i do wrong....what a long, wastful day......
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Re: Mint Debian

Postby Orographic on Mon Sep 20, 2010 5:00 am

Create a clonezilla image before you tinker, it will save you hours.
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Re: Mint Debian

Postby secipolla on Mon Sep 20, 2010 8:58 am

ibm450 wrote:just updated to the 2.6.36 and the nvidia crapped it self...reinstalled lm9


what the fark dd i do wrong....what a long, wastful day......

If the kernel was properly installed, then you would need to reinstall the NVIDIA driver (if using its prop. driver). What about your older kernel, couldn't you boot it?

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Regarding vrkalak's instructions, I guess he's talking about installing kernels from outside any repository because APT/Synaptic can deal with the dependencies by themselves.
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Re: Mint Debian

Postby richyrich on Mon Sep 20, 2010 9:11 am

vrkalak's instructions are for any Mint 9, based on Ubuntu, . . .not Mint Debian . . MD needs the Liquorix kernel.
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Re: Mint Debian

Postby ibm450 on Mon Sep 20, 2010 10:15 am

yeah she would boot and all, but during boot and just before login screen, it kept asking to restart x server. i tried everything i could find in the forums to restart and reinstall the nvidia drivers but had no luck whats so ever....i finally gave up and reinstalled the OS again.....

i better wait for LM10 to come out with the new kernal.

with 10.10 i had no issues with the new kernal 2.6.36 and with the beta OS release. imho it actually seemed to perform alot smoother and more responsive then lm9 (booted up afew seconds quicker also lol) . so i cant wait for lm10 to come out
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Re: Mint Debian

Postby phil on Fri Oct 15, 2010 5:46 pm

I installed liquorix on my Xfce Mint 9. It seems to work o.k. every way I checked except video. I could not reinstall nvidia because of a missing library that needed updating. I could not find the library and assume it must come from Debian. An attempted reinstallation of nvidia drivers messed up my xorg and gave me something to do I did not need for a couple of hours, but I did recover the OS and previous setup.
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