tdockery97 wrote:Hmm...might have missed it earlier, but Mint Update by default does dist-upgrade. So you really have the choice of using GUI or terminal.
tdockery97 wrote:Open Mint Update: Edit>Preferences>Update Method. There is a box for dist-upgrade that is checked.
omns wrote:The level 4 and 5 updates still won't be applied unless you choose to include them in the preferences.
Just thought it was interesting that the update manager was set up to do dist-upgrade.
Fred wrote:It will be interesting to see how all this washes out when big infrastructure changes start coming down. It is a very bad idea to have X and a DE running when X or the DE is being updated. All kinds of bad things can happen. This doesn't happen very often in testing but it does happen.
In my opinion, if the criteria is to do all upgrades in X GUIs then infrastructure changes, ( dist-upgrade), will have to be held back to avoid wholesale breakage at some point. Over time it will no longer be testing but an earlier subset of testing that becomes stagnate. This will require a reinstall of a later snapshot to catch back up. It is then no longer a rolling release.
aptosid, the old sidux, advocates turning off X and dropping to run level 3 to do dist-upgrade. I have found that this is good practice in testing as well as sid. Updating with h2s smxi, which forces you to be in run level 3, makes for a pretty reliable way to stay current if you use it on a regular basis. It is not a pretty GUI though so it remains to be seen if it will be accepted by Clem for Mint's user demographic.
Time will tell.
There is not a shred of truth in that entire post.
So please don't spout that drivel on other forums.
tdockery97 wrote:omns wrote:The level 4 and 5 updates still won't be applied unless you choose to include them in the preferences.
I do. But I still find it quicker to open terminal and type sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade. Just thought it was interesting that the update manager was set up to do dist-upgrade.
Possible changes in video, etc. that could break things. I'm sure it's all fixable, just inconvenient. When I tried Sid it borked my video.
Not to belabor a point my friend but glancing at few of your posts, you seem to approve of and even use smxi. It is even mentioned in your sig. line. On the other hand you strongly advocate the so-called "Debian way," ie. aptitude with X running as the only acceptable way for one and all. Like runningman, I am slightly confused by your seeming lack of consistence on this issue.
You do know that smxi runs in init 3, (X shut down), as root with the default upgrade method using apt don't you? It breaks all your own rules as you so eloquently stated them above. I am beginning to wonder if you indeed practice what you preach or are just towing the company line, so to speak.
Enjoy life, it is too short to do otherwise.
I apologize if I came off as rude in previous posts,...
In fact, that is the thing that bothers me most. I just hope he is bringing someone else along so that when he grows tired of all the work required, smxi and his other scripts can live on.
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