Re: POLL: Are you tracking new Mint Repo or "Debian Testing"
Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2011 3:39 pm
I am now tracking "Latest" after a brief foray with "Stable"
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deb http://packages.linuxmint.com/ debian main upstream import
deb http://debian.linuxmint.com/latest testing main contrib non-free
#deb http://security.debian.org/ testing/updates main contrib non-free
deb http://debian.linuxmint.com/latest/security testing/updates main contrib non-free
#deb http://www.debian-multimedia.org testing main non-free
deb http://debian.linuxmint.com/latest/multimedia testing main non-free
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deb http://packages.linuxmint.com/ debian main upstream import
### deb http://debian.linuxmint.com/latest testing main contrib non-free
deb http://lenny:9999/debian/ testing main contrib non-free
#deb http://security.debian.org/ testing/updates main contrib non-free
### deb http://debian.linuxmint.com/latest/security testing/updates main contrib non-free
deb http://lenny:9999/security/ testing/updates main contrib non-free
#deb http://www.debian-multimedia.org testing main non-free
### deb http://debian.linuxmint.com/latest/multimedia testing main non-free
deb http://lenny:9999/multimedia/ testing main non-free
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# apt-get dist-upgrade
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
Calculating upgrade... Done
The following packages will be REMOVED:
aptdaemon gcc-4.3 libpulse-browse0 mintinstall python-aptdaemon
The following NEW packages will be installed:
colord dnet-common dpkg-ruby fonts-dustin gir1.2-cogl-1.0
gir1.2-coglpango-1.0 icc-profiles lib32tinfo5 libaacplus2 libcamel-1.2-23
libcogl-common libcogl-pango0 libcogl5 libcolord1 libdnet libebackend-1.2-1
libedata-book-1.2-9 libedata-cal-1.2-11 libedataserverui-3.0-0 libfame-0.9-1
libgdata11 libglapi-mesa libgraphite2-2.0.0 libgtkhtml-4.0-0
libgtkhtml-4.0-common libgtkhtml-editor-4.0-0 libgweather-3-0
libhunspell-1.3-0 libimobiledevice2 libio-socket-inet6-perl libjson0
liblcms2-2 libmozjs7d libnetfilter-conntrack3 libnl3 libnm-glib4 libnm-util2
libodbc1 libopenal-data libp11-kit0 libraw2 libroar-compat1 libroar1
libsmokebase3 libsocket6-perl libsonic0 libtinfo5 libunique-3.0-0
libv4lconvert0 libxml-commons-external-java libxml-commons-resolver1.1-java
libxml-sax-base-perl libzthread-2.3-2 ntrack-module-libnl-0 rtkit
ruby-httpclient ruby-kde4 ruby-phonon ruby-plasma ruby-qt4 ruby-qt4-script
ruby-qt4-test ruby-qt4-uitools ruby-qt4-webkit xfce4-notifyd xulrunner-7.0
The following packages have been kept back:
gnome-utils xorg xserver-xorg xserver-xorg-core xserver-xorg-input-evdev
xserver-xorg-input-synaptics xserver-xorg-input-wacom xserver-xorg-video-apm
xserver-xorg-video-ark xserver-xorg-video-ati xserver-xorg-video-chips
xserver-xorg-video-cirrus xserver-xorg-video-fbdev xserver-xorg-video-i128
xserver-xorg-video-i740 xserver-xorg-video-intel xserver-xorg-video-mach64
xserver-xorg-video-mga xserver-xorg-video-neomagic
xserver-xorg-video-nouveau xserver-xorg-video-openchrome
xserver-xorg-video-r128 xserver-xorg-video-radeon
xserver-xorg-video-rendition xserver-xorg-video-s3
xserver-xorg-video-s3virge xserver-xorg-video-savage
xserver-xorg-video-siliconmotion xserver-xorg-video-sis
xserver-xorg-video-sisusb xserver-xorg-video-tdfx xserver-xorg-video-trident
xserver-xorg-video-tseng xserver-xorg-video-vesa xserver-xorg-video-vmware
xserver-xorg-video-voodoo
The following packages will be upgraded:
acpid alsa-utils amarok amarok-utils apache2 apache2-mpm-prefork
apache2-utils apache2.2-bin apache2.2-common apt apt-utils aqualung ark
audacious-plugins audacity autopoint banshee baobab binfmt-support binutils
blinken bluez btrfs-tools bzip2 ca-certificates calibre calibre-bin cantor
cantor-backend-kalgebra cdrdao cervisia cheese cheese-common chromium
chromium-browser chromium-inspector cifs-utils clementine conky-all
coreutils cpp cpp-4.4 cpp-4.5 cpp-4.6 cron cups cups-bsd cups-client
cups-common cups-pdf cups-ppdc curl cvsservice dash dbus dbus-x11 dcraw
debhelper debianutils deskbar-applet dia dia-gnome dia-libs
dictionaries-common djview-plugin djview4 djvulibre-bin djvulibre-desktop
dmidecode dmsetup dnsmasq-base dpkg dpkg-dev dragonplayer dselect
dvd-slideshow ed empathy espeak espeak-data ethtool evolution-data-server
evolution-data-server-common exiftran exim4 exim4-base exim4-config
exim4-daemon-light exo-utils extlinux fakeroot fancontrol feh ffmpeg
ffmpegthumbs file filelight flac foomatic-db foomatic-db-engine
freespacenotifier fuse fuse-utils g++ g++-4.4 g++-4.6 gcalctool gcc gcc-4.4
gcc-4.4-base gcc-4.5 gcc-4.5-base gcc-4.6 gcc-4.6-base gcj-4.6-base
gcj-4.6-jre-lib gdb gdbserver gdebi gdebi-core gdebi-kde gdm3 geeqie
geeqie-common geeqie-dbg geoclue geoclue-hostip geoclue-localnet
geoclue-manual geoclue-yahoo geoip-database gettext gettext-base ghostscript
ghostscript-cups ghostscript-x giblib1 gimp gimp-data gir1.2-atk-1.0
gir1.2-clutter-1.0 gir1.2-freedesktop gir1.2-gdkpixbuf-2.0 gir1.2-glib-2.0
gir1.2-gtk-2.0 gir1.2-gtk-3.0 gir1.2-json-1.0 gir1.2-pango-1.0 git git-man
gksu glib-networking gnome-dictionary gnome-icon-theme gnome-mag
gnome-mplayer gnome-panel gnome-screenshot gnome-search-tool gnome-session
gnome-session-bin gnome-session-canberra gnome-session-common
gnome-system-log gnome-system-monitor gnome-utils-common gnupg-agent gnupg2
google-gadgets-common google-gadgets-gst google-gadgets-qt gpac gpgsm
grub-common grub-pc grub-pc-bin grub2-common gs-common gstreamer0.10-nice
gtk2-engines-pixbuf gtk2-engines-xfce gvfs gvfs-backends gvfs-bin gvfs-fuse
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hugin-tools ia32-libs ia32-libs-gtk iceape iceape-browser iceape-chatzilla
icedove iceweasel ifupdown imagemagick info install-info iso-codes
java-common juk k3b k3b-data k3b-extrathemes k9copy kalgebra kalzium
kanagram kapptemplate kate kbd kbruch kcachegrind kcalc kcharselect
kde-config-cddb kde-window-manager kdebase-runtime kdebase-workspace
kdebase-workspace-bin kdebase-workspace-data
kdebase-workspace-kgreet-plugins kdemultimedia kdemultimedia-kio-plugins
kdesdk-dolphin-plugins kdesdk-kio-plugins kdesdk-misc kdesdk-strigi-plugins
kdeutils kdf kdm keyutils kgeography kgpg khangman khelpcenter4 kig
kinfocenter kipi-plugins kiten klettres klibc-utils klipper kmix kmplot
kmtrace kompare kpartloader kremotecontrol krosspython kscd kstars ksysguard
ksysguardd ktimer ktouch kturtle kuiviewer kwalletmanager kwordquiz leafpad
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libasound2-plugins libass4 libatasmart4 libatk1.0-0 libatk1.0-data
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libavutil51 libbluetooth3 libbluray1 libbrlapi0.5 libburn4 libbz2-1.0
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libcanberra0 libcdio-cdda0 libcdio-paranoia0 libcdio10 libcheese-gtk20
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libclutter-gtk-1.0-0 libcluttergesture-0.0.2-0 libcrypt-passwdmd5-perl
libcups2 libcupscgi1 libcupsdriver1 libcupsimage2 libcupsmime1 libcupsppdc1
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libdate-manip-perl libdb4.8 libdb5.1 libdbus-1-3 libdbus-glib-1-2
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libgtk-vnc-2.0-0 libgtk2.0-0 libgtk2.0-bin libgtk2.0-common libgtop2-7
libgtop2-common libgvnc-1.0-0 libgweather-common libhighgui2.1 libhpmud0
libhsqldb-java libhttpclient-ruby1.8 libijs-0.35 libimlib2
libio-socket-ssl-perl libiptcdata0 libiso9660-7 libisofs6 libjack0
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libreoffice-filter-mobiledev libreoffice-gnome libreoffice-gtk
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libreoffice-report-builder-bin libreoffice-style-crystal
libreoffice-style-galaxy libreoffice-style-tango libreoffice-writer
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libsmokekdecore4-3 libsmokekdeui4-3 libsmokekfile3 libsmokekhtml3
libsmokekio3 libsmokeknewstuff2-3 libsmokeknewstuff3-3 libsmokekparts3
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libsmokeplasma3 libsmokeqtcore4-3 libsmokeqtdbus4-3 libsmokeqtgui4-3
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libsmokeqtsql4-3 libsmokeqtsvg4-3 libsmokeqttest4-3 libsmokeqtuitools4-3
libsmokeqtwebkit4-3 libsmokeqtxml4-3 libsmokesolid3 libsmokesoprano3
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libswscale2 libtalloc2 libtaskmanager4abi1 libtdb1 libthunar-vfs-1-2
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libtracker-client-0.10-0 libtracker-sparql-0.10-0 libtumbler-1-0
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libvisual-0.4-plugins libvncserver0 libvpx0 libwbclient0 libweather-ion6
libwebkitgtk-1.0-0 libwebkitgtk-1.0-common libwebkitgtk-3.0-0
libwebkitgtk-3.0-common libwildmidi-config libwildmidi1 libwpd-0.9-9
libwpg-0.2-2 libwps-0.2-2 libwxsvg0 libx11-6 libx11-data libx11-dev
libx11-xcb1 libxerces2-java libxerces2-java-gcj libxfce4util-bin
libxfce4util-common libxfce4util4 libxfcegui4-4 libxine1 libxine1-bin
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libxine1-x libxml-libxml-perl libxml-sax-expat-perl libxml-sax-perl
libxml-twig-perl libxml2 libxml2-utils libxmmsclient-glib1 libxmmsclient6
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mesa-common-dev min12xxw miro miro-data mjpegtools moc moc-ffmpeg-plugin
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network-manager-pptp network-manager-pptp-gnome network-manager-vpnc
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openclipart-libreoffice openclipart-png openoffice.org-style-crystal
openshot openshot-doc openssh-client openssh-server openssl orage os-prober
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php5-common pidgin plasma-dataengines-workspace plasma-desktop
plasma-netbook plasma-scriptengine-googlegadgets
plasma-scriptengine-javascript plasma-scriptengine-python
plasma-scriptengine-ruby plasma-scriptengine-superkaramba
plasma-scriptengine-webkit plasma-scriptengines
plasma-widget-networkmanagement plasma-widgets-workspace policykit-1-gnome
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rocs rsyslog samba samba-common samba-common-bin scribus shotwell
simple-scan smbclient smbfs socat sox ssh sshfs step streamtuner sudo
sun-java6-bin sun-java6-jre sun-java6-plugin sweeper synaptic syslinux
syslinux-common system-tools-backends systemsettings telepathy-gabble
telepathy-mission-control-5 telepathy-salut thunar thunar-data tomboy tor
tor-geoipdb totem totem-mozilla totem-plugins traceroute transcode-utils
tsocks ttf-dustin ttf-kochi-gothic ttf-lyx ttf-opensymbol
ttf-sazanami-gothic ttf-sazanami-mincho tumbler tumbler-common tzdata udisks
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xfce4-battery-plugin xfce4-clipman xfce4-clipman-plugin xfce4-dict
xfce4-fsguard-plugin xfce4-goodies xfce4-indicator-plugin xfce4-session
xfce4-timer-plugin xfce4-utils xfdesktop4 xfdesktop4-data xfsprogs xfwm4
xmms2-core xmms2-plugin-alsa xmms2-plugin-id3v2 xmms2-plugin-mad
xmms2-plugin-vorbis xnest xserver-common xserver-xorg-input-all
xserver-xorg-video-all xul-ext-adblock-plus xul-ext-torbutton yelp
youtube-dl zenity zenity-common zoo
930 upgraded, 66 newly installed, 5 to remove and 36 not upgraded.
Need to get 1,125 MB/1,361 MB of archives.
After this operation, 43.8 MB of additional disk space will be used.
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Disclaimer: this is in no way any kind of formal information, just my take in reality;asymmetros wrote:I quit incoming repos in favor of sid. My final conclusion is that the new mint repos schema is not working right now -at least for me.
I was folllowing LMDE from it' s very first days running testing with no real problems. Than, i changed to the new incoming repos -for curiosity and cause there was a request for more users to test them. No breakage occured either.
My last "incoming" upgrade, took place last August, the 30th: about 700 mb's of updates. Today, the calnedar points to October, the 29th and so sign for the 4th update pack
I know, Clem has stated clearly that right now, he concentrates in Mint 12. So, i guess that the new package is gonna hit the repos not before the end of November -maybe later. Unfortunately, nothing more specific is announced yet.
I do not want to wait for 3 months or more in order to get a gb (?) of updates. Furthermore, afaik, this delay is not due to LMDE (which is acceptable) but due to something completely different. When i am running a kind of a rolling distro, i want to know a few standard things regarding the frequency of the updates: daily, once a week, once a month? It is not like a "Stable" release when the "release when it is ready" moto works best.
My worst fear is that LMDE is something like a sub-project, not as important for the devs as the main edition.
I am fully aware that Clem has not plenty of time -but that arises an obvious question: why they do not abandon the ubuntu-based or the debian-based Mint? A clarification is needed here.
PS1: some mint users are looking elsewhere for a nice kde distro -and some of them are simply gnome refugees hating the new gnome 3. Mint KDE is not here for them. Bad synchronization.
PS2: please count this post just as a feedback for an ex- "incoming repos" follower
PS3: i am reading easily books written in english but i rarely write anything the english. Take it as an excuse