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LMDE daily build ISOs

Postby hsngrms on Sun Aug 21, 2011 6:11 pm

Daily builds have big advantages. Issues found rapidly, feedbacks are beneficial.

Why LMDE developer team ignore this. Is this too hard to make or what?


p.s: If developers' replies are negative, I will start a signature collection campaign (signature= name & e-mail) :P
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Re: LMDE daily build ISOs

Postby TomRoche on Sun Aug 21, 2011 8:20 pm

hsngrms wrote:Daily builds have big advantages


True, but ISOs are big files: dailies would consume lots host space and bandwidth.
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Re: LMDE daily build ISOs

Postby hsngrms on Sun Aug 21, 2011 8:43 pm

TomRoche wrote:
hsngrms wrote:Daily builds have big advantages


True, but ISOs are big files: dailies would consume lots host space and bandwidth.


Is Linux Mint 4. (fourth) most widely used operating system or have i wrong information ? :cry:

Must have a huge server already.
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Re: LMDE daily build ISOs

Postby LifeInTheGrey on Sun Aug 21, 2011 8:46 pm

hsngrms wrote:Daily builds have big advantages. Issues found rapidly, feedbacks are beneficial.

Why LMDE developer team ignore this. Is this too hard to make or what?


p.s: If developers' replies are negative, I will start a signature collection campaign (signature= name & e-mail) :P


I would recommend volunteering one of your servers as a compilation server to create the daily ISO builds. Then, upon establishing the compiling server, you could code an auto-compiling engine that would grab all the files from the source code and build the ISOs every night at a specific time. Then, upon completion of each build, you could create a changelog that details the updates made to the source in plain english, so that the users can understand the reason for updating their operating system.

If that sounds like too much work ... you can always start a forum thread asking arrogantly why other people haven't done it yet.
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Re: LMDE daily build ISOs

Postby Aging Technogeek on Sun Aug 21, 2011 9:01 pm

hsngrms said

Is Linux Mint 4. most widely used distro or have i wrong information ? :cry:

Must have a huge server already.


You have incorrect and out of date information. Linux Mint 4 reached end-of-life and lost all support over two years ago. The current version of Linux Mint is Mint 11 and it is not the most widely used distro - that would be Ubuntu.

Also, Mint must depend on third party servers and mirrors to distribute their .iso files. Loading these servers with daily builds of two Debian based and four Ubuntu based versions would not be appreciated by the server owners and maintainers.

As to creating daily builds, if the Mint development team was the size of the teams Microsoft has working on Windows, it might be feasible to make daily builds every night.

The current Mint development team is 4 people, only one of whom devotes full time to Mint. The others all must work for a living outside of Mint and do development work in their off time. With this small team, clem puts out 6 versions of Mint every six months or so. I think you can understand why daily builds are not a priority.
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Re: LMDE daily build ISOs

Postby hsngrms on Sun Aug 21, 2011 9:27 pm

Aging Technogeek wrote:hsngrms said

You have incorrect and out of date information. Linux Mint 4 reached end-of-life and lost all support over two years ago. The current version of Linux Mint is Mint 11 and it is not the most widely used distro - that would be Ubuntu.

Also, Mint must depend on third party servers and mirrors to distribute their .iso files. Loading these servers with daily builds of two Debian based and four Ubuntu based versions would not be appreciated by the server owners and maintainers.

As to creating daily builds, if the Mint development team was the size of the teams Microsoft has working on Windows, it might be feasible to make daily builds every night.

The current Mint development team is 4 people, only one of whom devotes full time to Mint. The others all must work for a living outside of Mint and do development work in their off time. With this small team, clem puts out 6 versions of Mint every six months or so. I think you can understand why daily builds are not a priority.


OK. I understand.

But
4. isn't 4
4. is fourth
;)

1. Windows
2. Mac OS
3. Ubuntu
4. Linux Mint

My fault is saying "distro", correct locution="operating system"

And, only want Debian-based daily builds, not other 4 Ubuntu-based...
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Re: LMDE daily build ISOs

Postby LifeInTheGrey on Sun Aug 21, 2011 9:40 pm

hsngrms wrote:
Aging Technogeek wrote:hsngrms said

You have incorrect and out of date information. Linux Mint 4 reached end-of-life and lost all support over two years ago. The current version of Linux Mint is Mint 11 and it is not the most widely used distro - that would be Ubuntu.

Also, Mint must depend on third party servers and mirrors to distribute their .iso files. Loading these servers with daily builds of two Debian based and four Ubuntu based versions would not be appreciated by the server owners and maintainers.

As to creating daily builds, if the Mint development team was the size of the teams Microsoft has working on Windows, it might be feasible to make daily builds every night.

The current Mint development team is 4 people, only one of whom devotes full time to Mint. The others all must work for a living outside of Mint and do development work in their off time. With this small team, clem puts out 6 versions of Mint every six months or so. I think you can understand why daily builds are not a priority.


OK. I understand.

But
4. isn't 4
4. is fourth
;)

1. Windows
2. Mac OS
3. Ubuntu
4. Linux Mint

My fault is saying "distro", correct locution="operating system"

And, only want Debian-based daily builds, not other 4 Ubuntu-based...


While I'm certain the grammarians of the audience greatly appreciate the clarification you just provided regarding your use of the term 4 and distro, I believe the more prevalent issue you should concern yourself with is the remainder of that post's content.

Just because you want it and assume it should be done doesn't mean it can or will be done. Hence, my recommendation to volunteer to provide those services yourself. Its harder than just pouting about what you want, but certainly more likely to be accomplished.
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Re: LMDE daily build ISOs

Postby Aging Technogeek on Sun Aug 21, 2011 9:43 pm

Sorry for the misunderstanding, but given what you originally typed, it is understandable, I think.
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Re: LMDE daily build ISOs

Postby hsngrms on Sun Aug 21, 2011 10:06 pm

I received more negative response than I expected.

First; i will discuss your replies with our project leader and local teams/members. Later; maybe i contact with Clem, maybe i feedback to this topic.

Thanks for replies.
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Re: LMDE daily build ISOs

Postby MALsPa on Mon Aug 22, 2011 3:22 am

hsngrms wrote:Is this too hard to make or what?


Looks like the answer to this is "Yes." Unfortunately. No matter how many people use Mint (I think it's quite debatable whether or not Mint is the "fourth most widely used operating system"), daily build ISOs might be beyond the capabilities of the Mint team at this time, due to the reasons Aging Technologies mentioned.

It would be nice if there were daily build ISOs for LMDE, though.

By the way, while I had to stop for a quick second to think about what hsngrms was saying, it was clear to me that he wasn't referring to "Linux Mint 4" here:

hsngrms wrote:Is Linux Mint 4. (fourth) most widely used operating system or have i wrong information ?


He was, after all, asking a question about LMDE in the original post. Understandable that it was misinterpreted, though. Happens.
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